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iOS 7 Running Behind, Rumored to Have Significant Visual Makeover

Medic311 said:
yeah that's what i was thinking. this company is sitting on so much cash - they could double their iOS development team and it wouldn't even make a scratch in the scheme of things profits wise
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Quality not quantity. Moving already employeed engineers from other projects allows you to expedite the products development. Hiring a bunch of new people who need to be trained and brought up to speed would actually slow down development. Them once you were done you would have more employees than you needed.

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Premium1 said:
Imagine the backlash if they did that especially after all the bad mouthing the s4 by Schiller for rumored to have outdated OS.
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That doesn't make sense. The next iPhone will be running the newest version of iOS the day the os comes out. The S4 is being launched with an older os than the most current one. Worlds apart.

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starbird said:
If they made iOS more like OS X, this could be considered a major oberhaul. Something as simple as a Dashboard screen (taken from Mac OS X) and some "flattening" and you have it. I think that is all most people want.

See my rough concept. (Ok, EXTREMELY rough, but you get the idea)
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That picture is the only thing that could make apple hit bankruptcy
 
stockscalper said:
It's a hit only because of the extreme zombie fanboyism. The iPhone is so far behind Android it's laughable, including in biometrics where IOS 7 is supposed to emphasize. But, that's not to say IOS 7 can't break new ground and raise the bar again. I'm just skeptical because Apple seems to have lost its vision, edge and innovation now that Jobs is gone. I mean look at the pathetic attempt to add a notification screen to the phone. Now look at the one in Jelly Bean and how versatile it is with access to system widgets and links to your apps. I would have expected this type of notification to have come from Apple and it would have in the old days. Sad, but the company just seems to be adrift, floating without direction just like they did in the late 80's and 90's after Jobs had left.
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Wow, way to just tar everyone who prefer iPhone (and in turn doesn't agree with YOUR opinion) with the same ridiculous brush.

I don't buy iPhone out of some "zombie famboyism" (hilariously childish term btw), I buy it because I have a vast array of apps that I paid for, because there's not a single Android handset out there with the build quality of the iPhone, and because most of these "must have" features on Android are gimmicks. Widgets, scrolling via face recognition, shutting down when you close your eyes, video player on the home screen ... not features to sell a device on.

I have tried Android devices and I simply prefer the fluidity of iOS (and you can argue as much as you want, you're wrong) because as of yet there is no Android device as fluid as iPhone. I hate seeing a single frame skip in UI animations, I hate stuttering.

Yes, Android has sold lots more than iPhone but then a rocket scientist isn't required to see that every manufacturer of Android phones has umpteen difference handsets ranging from £40 to £400. And having used my in-laws abomination of an excuse for a tablet running ICS (won't get JB even though it's a late 2012 model), you couldn't pay me to use something so slow and utterly woeful. More sold doesn't equal better and nor does bloody widgets and the other gimmicks from the S4 demos.
 
insider-man said:
I call BS - the developers for IOS and OSX are two totally separate teams and operate totally autonomously of each other - they don't just 'get pulled across'.

There is so many specialisation to each OS they can't just move people around, the amount of internal financial issues this would cause would be unreal!

Just to add, if they need more developers they believe it or not recruit them and each department has it's own budget and revenue streams to deal with that.
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Since they have done this before you are 100% wrong. Compared to most companies apple has a very small number of engineers. Moving them to finish products is something they do.

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Neodym said:
That's how you burn through human resources and tarnish your company reputation for not being able to work on more than one project at the same time.


Yeah - people like to suddenly get pulled out of their current work and plunge into something completely different. Increases their productivity for sure.
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I would say in a case like this yeah most good engineers would be thrilled to be called in to help finish up a massive os upgrade.
 
So

Pro user = middle finger

iUsers = thumbs up


--- good luck apple keep it up ---


I hope google come up with good quality products & realize internet isn't fast every where in the world
 
Thunderbird said:
^This makes no sense. The world has run out of highly skilled software people because Apple already has them all?

If Apple has to pull people off another project, then that indicates an employee shortage overall. Hiring a few more engineers so that even under a heavy workload with tight deadlines, no one gets pulled off a project would seem prudent, especially since this isn't the first or only time it's happened.
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You are right. Since they need to do a major short term reallocation every five years they would be better off just having too many engineers all the time.
 
LeandrodaFL said:
I wish history would repeat itself. Leopard was the biggest OS X revolution, as well as iphone for a post pc device. I fear however that both with iOS 7 and OS X 10.9, we are going downhill. the current iPad and Macintosh may be my last devices from Apple

"Many people happy"....that can be 40 people. That is many to me. A few engineer nerds that understand nothing about art. what about the millions unhappy with he UI change?
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I agree with what you said until the part that you predict the new UI will make millions unhappy, well have you seen the new UI ?
 
WeegieMac said:
Wow, way to just tar everyone who prefer iPhone (and in turn doesn't agree with YOUR opinion) with the same ridiculous brush.

I don't buy iPhone out of some "zombie famboyism" (hilariously childish term btw), I buy it because I have a vast array of apps that I paid for, because there's not a single Android handset out there with the build quality of the iPhone, and because most of these "must have" features on Android are gimmicks. Widgets, scrolling via face recognition, shutting down when you close your eyes, video player on the home screen ... not features to sell a device on.

I have tried Android devices and I simply prefer the fluidity of iOS (and you can argue as much as you want, you're wrong) because as of yet there is no Android device as fluid as iPhone. I hate seeing a single frame skip in UI animations, I hate stuttering.

Yes, Android has sold lots more than iPhone but then a rocket scientist isn't required to see that every manufacturer of Android phones has umpteen difference handsets ranging from £40 to £400. And having used my in-laws abomination of an excuse for a tablet running ICS (won't get JB even though it's a late 2012 model), you couldn't pay me to use something so slow and utterly woeful. More sold doesn't equal better and nor does bloody widgets and the other gimmicks from the S4 demos.
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You sir speak logic that is all I will say
 
marksman said:
That doesn't make sense. The next iPhone will be running the newest version of iOS the day the os comes out. The S4 is being launched with an older os than the most current one. Worlds apart.
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Wrong.

The Galaxy S4 is being launched with 4.2.2.

That's the most current Android version.
 
iGrip said:
If Apple waits until the holiday season of 2014 to release an exciting phone, then lots of people will be bored of Apple in general. Already Apple's market share is plunging, and by then, they will be the old uncool brand of cellphone for people who are WAY behind and WAY old fashioned.

But don't get me wrong. There are huge numbers of technophobes who do not yet own a smartphone. Apple will sell plenty to them. It will be a popular product. Hell, AARP is wildly popular.
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Market share is plunging, but they still make the most profits. So much for market share.
 
jouster said:
What 10 year product plan would you advise for the iPhone today? Take us through 2023 if you will.

What would you have recommended on Jan 1st, 2007?
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You think the iPhone was invented on Jan 1st 2007?

It was probably conceived at least 3 or 4 years before and almost certainly was the natural evolution of other products and technologies that Apple had been working on for some time. The iPad was invented before the iPhone but Apple put it on the back burner and launched it 3 years later.

Product planning is an evolutionary process but you have to start with a vision otherwise you simply won't know what direction you're heading in. If you don't you could wake up one day to find you're competition has just re-invented the product/market leaving you high and dry.
 
I hope the UI stay relatively consistent, and that they manage to stay away from short lived trends and change for it's own sake.
 
gnasher729 said:
Imagine RIM had created a 10 year plan in 2006. The word "iPhone" wouldn't be in that plan. You wouldn't think they would wait until 2016 until they react to the iPhone?
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If RIM had created a 10 year plan back in 2006 or before they would have seen touch screen technology as a game changer and would have started working on products that delivered it. If they'd done that they would not be in the mess they are now and would probably have seen off the iPhone long ago.

The whole point of 10 year plans is to predict future technologies and focus your R&D into delivering those products before anyone else does.
 
iGrip said:
Naw. Lots of technophobes buy an iPhone because they are convinced that it is "easy to use".

Apple knows who its customers are. They will always appeal to noobs. Just look at their advertising. It always shows mundane, standard smartphone-type stuff that would only wow those who know little about the capabilities of an average smartphone.

"Panoramic photos? On a phone? I didn't know that they could DO that!"
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Not just easy to use, but I find it more productive & intuitive. Often I just use it the way I think it should and in many cases it does. Which goes in how much thought went into how people would naturally use a tablet.
 
Michael Goff said:
Wrong.

The Galaxy S4 is being launched with 4.2.2.

That's the most current Android version.
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So he mixed up S4 and HTC One, which is shipping with old 4.1.

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stockscalper said:
It's a hit only because of the extreme zombie fanboyism. The iPhone is so far behind Android it's laughable, including in biometrics where IOS 7 is supposed to emphasize. But, that's not to say IOS 7 can't break new ground and raise the bar again. I'm just skeptical because Apple seems to have lost its vision, edge and innovation now that Jobs is gone. I mean look at the pathetic attempt to add a notification screen to the phone. Now look at the one in Jelly Bean and how versatile it is with access to system widgets and links to your apps. I would have expected this type of notification to have come from Apple and it would have in the old days. Sad, but the company just seems to be adrift, floating without direction just like they did in the late 80's and 90's after Jobs had left.
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So far behind?....

Enjoying your lockscreen controls you finally just gained 2 days ago?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...rols-still-forgets-the-notification-controls/
 
LeandrodaFL said:
"Many people happy"....that can be 40 people. That is many to me. A few engineer nerds that understand nothing about art. what about the millions unhappy with he UI change?
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You do realize Ive is not an engineer and has an art degree? And I would guess the employees who work in Apple's human interface group don't think of themselves as "engineering nerds".

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linuxcooldude said:
Market share is plunging, but they still make the most profits. So much for market share.
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Where is market share plunging?
 
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