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I really couldn't care less how long it takes as long as it's a major update and have a beautiful interface and cool new features.:rolleyes:
 
A new iPhone has never been released without a new version of iOS, and there has always been ~3 months from the announcement of a new version of iOS to it's release, so a June announcement of the iPhone 5S is out.

The 3 month gap was introduced with 4s and 5, iOS 2, 3, and 4 were released with 3G, 3GS, and 4 respectively
 
If you're really having to pull engineerings from another project, isn't it time to hire some more engineers?

No, it's time to fire the managers.

Seriously - only mis-managed projects have to resort to emergency measures like this'

Of course, if the new managers want to hire more engineers - then let them.

But don't give the old incompetent managers more people to mis-manage.
 
Here's what I see happening:
June WWDC: iOS 7 Previewed; iPad 5 Introduced; iPhone 5S Introduced
June: iPad 5 Ships/Launches
July: iPhone 5S Launches with iOS 7
September Keynote: iPad Mini 2 Introduced; "Cheap" iPhone Introduced; iOS 7.1 Previewed
September: iPad Mini 2 and Cheap iPhone Launch with iOS 7.1
November Keynote: iWatch Introduced
November: iWatch Ships
And new Mac Pros somewhere in there.

Probably in a Mac dedicated Keynote - after all, they too need updating! Hopefully with a great OS 10.9.
 
Were supposed to be impressed?:rolleyes:

I thought it was necessary to point that out given that the masters programs in IT at many universities are the equivalent to a microsoft certificate.
 
Very, very disappointed at Apple.

I am just thinking of buying a new MacBook Pro with a retina display, for a high price tag. Or was thinking.

Once again, Apple is showing that iOS devices, these iToys, are more important than the real computers.

Nearly US$ 140 billion dollars in cash. Why Apple can't just hire new engineers to work on iOS 7? Why does it have to pull engineers from OS X 10.9? Isn't there enough money? Or perhaps enough engineers? I just can't figure out what the problem is.

People may complain about Microsoft and Windows 8, but at least Microsoft is putting a lot of effort in developing the new Windows Blue. But Apple couldn't care less about the Mac and OS X.

iOS is falling behind, and OS X is mature and full-featured. That's why they're putting people on iOS. Also, since the cores of both OSes are practically identical, it's good to use people familiar with the architecture.
 
That is awesome.

"I'd like my device to be inherently insecure and vulnerable to attacks from the outside world, just so I can download and run free **** I don't want to pay for!".

That totally just made my day.

-SC

You're assuming that the only reason anyone ever Jailbreaks their phone is to download free stuff?

Not for the better version of the app-switcher 'Auxo'?
Or the 'iCaughtU' security feature that takes a snapshot of the person that's trying to get into your phone?
Or LockMessages
Or multitouch Zephyr
Or Activator
Or widgets
Or a Safari Omnibar
Or being able to swipe Safari pages away
Or 'Pull to refresh' in Safari
Or hiding Newsstand
Or iSwipe keyboard
Or that silly utility that makes your phone do the Harlem Shake?

Are you getting my point?
 
Sounds like Ive has had free reign on iOS7, I can't wait to see what he delivers.

And i'm glad that there is now some information to put the whole iOS7 "minor update" debate to rest.

I just hope that 10.9 does not suffer as a result.
 
Imagine the backlash if they did that especially after all the bad mouthing the s4 by Schiller for rumored to have outdated OS.

But you can get easily update your photo while many Androids are unable to do so.

Edit: I meant OS, not photo. Sorry
 
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Agree look how much people were complaining about the bugs with the updates to IOS6

Funny thing is, most people probably didn't notice any bugs...I sure didn't. All I've ever noticed with each new iteration is....Snappier safari.:)
 
I'm getting really anxious about this new GUI under Ive, oh please no metro style, o please God no, no Google style ...
 
“Ive’s work is apparently making many people really happy, but will also apparently make rich-texture-loving designers sad.” - Rene Ritchie

What exactly does this mean? Rich texture? Is that like the Passbook shredding feature? or the Calendar app on the iPad?

I hope that it means the cheesy little animations will be banished. They are cute the first couple of times, but after that, they are downright annoying.
 
Any developer could have told you iOS 7 and OS X 10.9 are both late... Apple normally gives us a hint of what's coming in February or March. This year we got nothing.
 
It's been mentioned before, this isn't the answer. New hires take a long, LONG time to train and acclimate to your 'system' and to understand the vision and direction you're looking to move in. That said, some of the jail breaking community (the minds behind the j-breaks), the folks that dig for and find the exploits, some of the Cydia developers and programmers...I think this would be a brilliant move by Apple. Kills two birds...or maybe a half dozen with a single move. The j-break community is crippled as is the development crews that provide Cydia with the compelling apps that folks still feel the need to jailbreak. BUT, this also benefits those of us that don't jailbreak...and in my opinion, brings a fresh, young and brilliant new addition to the team responsible for iOS and iPhone development. They could probably add a lot of excellent ideas to the hardware division as well...some extremely talented design engineers are young, ambitious...and for a shot at working for Apple, a relative 'bargain' when it comes to pay and benefits




Completely disagree. Mountain Lion is the best OS I've ever had the pleasure of using. Snow Leopard was exceptional...ML takes it to a new level. Absolutely NO comparison to the debacle called Windows 8. Windows 7 was excellent...WTH were they thinking with '8'?



Maybe on the coding end...software and programming engineering. However, again...I don't think this is necessarily the case until the smallish crew of actual story board designers have done their job. At some point you've got to rely on a small team with excellent chemistry to pull of the 'design' of the OS itself. Too many cheifs, nothing gets accomplished. A democracy does not make a good product. That, again IMO is why Jonny Ive has been so successful in his hardware designs over the years. His team must be truly incredible with an awesome, almost family like chemistry. For every iPhone, iPad, iPod, et al that we see...there are dozens, if not hundreds of prototypes that didn't make the cut. It's got to take a ton of resolve to continue showing up to your job if YOUR design is routinely turned 'down' as the winner. Of course, different facets of each prototype is probably taken into consideration...Apple, regardless of your feelings on each device is a perennial champion of industrial design. They truly make functional 'art' IMO



Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not...I think you are as I feel the same. Regardless of how 'stale' folks feel iOS has become, it's truly and absolutely as fluent, efficient and 'bug free' as any mobile OS in history. I'm 42 and I've been through almost a decade of Blackberry (mandated) corporate ownership. I enjoy both Android and iOS (currently own an iPhone 5 and Galaxy Note) and in between I bought into the Treo, Windows mobile and other wannabe smart phones. I've owned each iPhone iteration...and while the 'face' of the OS looks similar, it's guts have changed enormously. I still remember how happy I was with the original iPhone. 2g speeds and all. No apps. No cut n paste. No subsidized cost...but still, it was exactly like having a small PC in my pocket. From the App Store to cut n paste, 2g to LTE, the camera's maturation and iCloud. Exchange support and I said it earlier...the App Store. The iOS development community. The incredible selection of iOS apps that work, work well and are designed for each device appropriately. When it comes to our actual computers...the OS is a big deal, but most of us are using software not baked into the OS. It's third party. The OS is a foundation, a 'launch pad' if you will...that we rely on for stability so we can USE software reliably and efficiently without concern for data loss or instability. That, to me, is the number one 'pro' that iOS seems to continuously be overlooked because some don't like skeumorphism, the same row of icons (or now folders), or the traditional color theme and inability to customize your home screen. Many of the issues, in fact any issue I've ever had with my Android devices over the years have been due to apps that don't play well with either the specific phone or tablet manufacturer I'm using, the screen size/resolution or system 'apps' that F with the low level OS programming itself. Vetted apps that are ubiquitous across most systems; Evernote, Flipboard, even the Google offerings tend to be great. However, the third party support so prevalent in the iOS development sector isn't nearly as proficient on the Android platform. Blame it on fragmentation, the carriers, screen size and/or resolution....doesn't matter. To me, with the endless customizability of Android comes challenges...whether it be UI lag, piss poor battery life, random shut down or slow downs....just different problems that I never EVER run into on iOS. Part of me really hopes Apple isn't listening to the MR (super fans) with plans to ground up reprogram iOS. It doesn't need a total makeover like so many here suggest. Continued refinement, maybe opening up the sandbox a bit...so we can choose our default browser...system integration of quick settings and cross application compatibility...maybe a file 'vault'. Not necessarily an overly confusing file system, but a place any app can store their info and its accessible by other apps to dick with. I actually like some of the skeumorphic design choices, I was sad to see the reel to reels go away on Podcasts....these were 'cool' designs that are completely absent from baked in Android (stock) apps...and something that set Apple apart.



Isn't that to be expected? OS'es tend to mature over time? My thoughts on the next major revision from OSX---OSXi :)



I agree. Totally!

I really enjoyed your insights.
 
Hiring people = bozo explosion. One of the most underrated, un-talked about aspects of this company is keeping the bozo explosion from happening.

Better to have a small group of people that deliver, than to have a large group of bozos take over a proud company.

It is even better to have a large group of people that deliver.
 
I'd gladly pay for a different keyboard if Apple would let me...

That is not allowed for at least two reasons:

It ruins the User Experience; and
It is just WAY too complicated.

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Once again, Apple is showing that iOS devices, these iToys, are more important than the real computers.


Is that really so surprising? The computer thing is quickly becoming a minor sideline for Apple. Apple never really gained much traction in the computer biz anyways.

Nowadays the iPhone is their premier product, with the iPad close behind.
 
Any developer could have told you iOS 7 and OS X 10.9 are both late... Apple normally gives us a hint of what's coming in February or March. This year we got nothing.

The last two versions of iOS have not been announced or previewed before WWDC in June.
 
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