But syncing them to my PC is a perfectly good working solution. I don't want them syncing to iCloud where I'll be forced to purchase additional expensive storage (expensive relative to the solution I already own).
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But syncing them to my PC is a perfectly good working solution. I don't want them syncing to iCloud where I'll be forced to purchase additional expensive storage (expensive relative to the solution I already own).
I saw nothing in the release notes about SMS relay. If Apple has turned it back on, they did not mention it.
I will be testing out 8.1 later today or tomorrow.
Between removing iPhoto and Camera Roll, its enough to send me insane, and computers are my line of workI don't get why Apple can't have a toggle switch for this sort of stuff to allow the user to choose. Those who want recently added can have it, those who want camera roll can have it.
The same with iPhoto. Those who want it can keep it those who would prefer Photos can convert to it.
Yes, Photos is the biggest debacle. But it has to do with even more; health, camera roll possibly coming back, icloud family sharing, icloud photo library, SMS relay, shoddy 3rd party keyboard implementation. And no Mac photos app till early 2015? Updates that aren't even being tested (8.0.1)????? Seriously what the hell is going on? "Oh no biggie, only 40,000 people were affected with no cell service." THATS NOT AN ANSWER!
Its kinda scary. Its making people NOT trust Apple in a way that people always did because there USED to be so much polish on everything. Nothing is ever perfect but they are screeching the tires and about to go fast in the opposite direction.
They have done an absolutely atrocious job of explaining a lot of this especially the iCloud photo library which is currently rolling out to users (including myself) after the 8.0.2 update.
So you're saying that Apple had it wrong for SEVEN years? And now they are bringing CR back just for the fun of it? Give me a goddamn break.
The photo library is for PHOTOS (and videos), regardless of their source.
Why should I use third-party apps when the stock Photos app on 7.1.2 already does EVERYTHING I need? And what is this talk about photos only containing personal photos and videos, that's a load of BS.
No, the recently added album made it annoying as hell, because for some reason if I wanted to go back and look at some photo I saved a month ago from the internet but was taken by a camera in 2010, I would have to go to moments and scroll up to 2010. When you have more than 2k photos (I know people with a lot more), it becomes very inefficient. Going back a month on my camera roll is easy. Moments are great, but not when the photo isn't yours or has original location/timestamp information.
Photostream is not replaced by iCloud Photo Library. The option to use it remains. Try again.
EXACTLY. Personally, I sync them with Dropbox, which is FREE, gives me 30 GB storage, and I do not want to purchase any more storage with yet another service to store photos in the cloud other than my backup.
iCloud was not hacked
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Excuse me why do you also say how it works and tell me I'm wrong but with no actually explaination.
Do you guys really think it will download all pics, I mean seriously. If I get 1 TB iCloud space and upload 800gb of photos to my IPL do you think they would also all download on my other devices, REALLY? What magical iphone are you guys using? Do you also think if I would take 1000s of picture on my 16 GB iPhone (with iCloud photo library ON) and I run out of space it will say sorry you cannot take any more pictures?
I mean the whole point of IPL so that your library of 1000s of pictures live in the cloud and are on all your devices regardless where taken or how many. Omg
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Considering there is an option that says "Download and keep originals" yes I expect it to download the photos. When you run out of space an option pops up asking if you want to disable that option and optimize space instead.
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No, just no. What happens if I run out space for my optimised versions. How will I keep say 200gb of photos in IPL on my iPhone that's 16GB, by optimising LOL.
The settings for keep originals or optimised is for photos on the device when you do the initial upload, new photos taken after and maybe frequently viewed pictures, NOT for all photos that I upload, say through iCloud.com or Yosemite. And ios will most likely delete the older pics on your device if you low on space, or I just delete all of them myself. The MAIN POINT is that I don't have to worry since the raw files are SAVED in iCloud and any EDITS will always be made to the icloud version.
What's wrong with you guys
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No, just no, you guys have no clue. What happens if I run out space for my optimised versions. How will I keep say 200gb of photos in IPL on my iPhone that's 16GB
The settings for keep originals or optimised is for new photos taken and maybe frequently viewed pictures, NOT for all photos that I upload, say through iCloud.com or Yosemite.
What's wrong with you guys
Nothings wrong with us, we are explaining how it works. Hopefully your phone can manage the optimized space automatically.
You know that you can scan wifi networks like jailbroken iPhones can in iOS 8.1 right
And ya you can!!!
And ya you can!!!
That's what I just said in my last post, after I edited it. That will also apply for store and keep originals. Ios will do the work for you, probably by most frequently viewed, last taken and some other smart ****.
The main point AGAIN is that doesn't matter since the original versions are in you IPL and any edits made. The local version are for convincience and nothing else.
So I do know exactly how it works by using logic. So again please explain how it would handle 200gb of photos in your "it applies to all pictures world"?
You guys are not explaining, you are stating wrong information and keep telling me I'm wrong with no reason. I'm the one explaining.
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Or there's still a way to do it all with a Camera Roll "album" being brought back. Again, one doesn't have an implication about the other being available or being delayed. Nothing of what you said implies that or even shows that it somehow can't even work (given that no one even knows the specifics of what Apple might be putting in and/or modifying by bringing back the Camera Roll in the first iOS 8.1 beta).
That's what I just said in my last post, after I edited it. That will also apply for store and keep originals. Ios will do the work for you, probably by most frequently viewed, last taken and some other smart ****.
The main point AGAIN is that doesn't matter since the original versions are in you IPL and any edits made. The local version are for convincience and nothing else.
So I do know exactly how it works by using logic. So again please explain how it would handle 200gb of photos in your "it applies to all pictures world"?
You guys are not explaining, you are stating wrong information and keep telling me I'm wrong with no reason. I'm the one explaining.
Where did I state wrong information? Just because I don't have all the answers, that doesn't mean I am wrong.
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Camera roll isn't there in 8.1 beta if you have iCloud Photo Library enabled.
So clearly having Camera Roll back doesn't have an implication of iCloud Photo Library being delayed or something like that.
There's definitely someone not understanding something about it all here (and it's not the rest of the posters). But, as you said, end of discussion. At least we can move on and focus on the actual topic of this thread.
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I upload my old pictures saved on my Mac over they years, let's say 500gb.
I upload them through icloud.com (there will be a photo app soon) or Yosemite photos app (in 2015).
I than get my iPhone or iPad with IPL turned on.
Do you really think it would download all these pictures, if i used the setting keep originals. The answer is NO IT WILL NOT.
THIS IS BECAUSE it is not possible, even if I use the optimised setting there is not enough Space.
SO
YES, YOU ARE WRONG if you think, like the other person, that it will download ALL pictures.
YES, YOU ARE WRONG to tell me I'm wrong, when im stating that it does not download all pictures since that would not be possible.
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If you have enabled iCloud Photo Library then no camera roll but if you haven't you got it back with 8.1
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Now for the good stuff, has anyone found any improvement on iPhone 5s
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Now for the good stuff, has anyone found any improvement on iPhone 5s
Do you know what would be great?
Automatic album creation based on the app that saved the photo on the device.
So you'll have inside albums: "Back camera", "Selfies", "Messages", "Safari", "Instagram", "Whatsapp",etc. Albums automatically created when you save a photo from that Apps.
You could still create manually albums and move photos into them, and iOS will ask you to delete the photo from the old album or not.
Finally, if you delete a photo from an album, it deletes from everywhere.
You would also have like now the Photos tab, where all are organized by date.
I think that simple solution would be the key to help us have our photos better organized.
Thanks
Nope, sorry. When iCloud Photo Library is actually released, AKA, NOT BETA, Photostream will be removed.
So can the people in this thread that think they know how the old Camera Roll and new Photos tab can possibly coexist answer this question:
Since the Photos app now properly handles photo meta data (which it has not for 7 years)....when the Photo gets placed in the proper location in the Photos tab timeline.....where is it supposed to show up in Camera Roll? As the MOST RECENT photo? Makes no sense at all.
You people are suggesting there should be two completely different methods of organization within the same app, one respecting meta data, another NOT, as opposed to just having a smart folder called "Recently Added" (odd....exactly what was there until people complained) that could show you the photo you just downloaded.
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