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Actually, I don't. Did Heise say it would arrive in Germany, but it didn't?

I don't think Apple ever said "iTunes Radio coming to 100 countries on <Date>".

Well, in the keynote introducing iTunes Radio Tim stated it was their absolute priority to introduce it worldwide...this was what I was referring to. For sure we're definitely closer this time :)
 
iTunes Radio is not the right example to compare with. It seems clear to me that the iTunes Radio project was put on hold when they decided to create Apple Music. They had no reason to negotiate with music labels outside USA for iTunes Radio and, after a few months, do the same again for Apple Music...
 
iTunes Radio is not the right example to compare with. It seems clear to me that the iTunes Radio project was put on hold when they decided to create Apple Music. They had no reason to negotiate with music labels outside USA for iTunes Radio and, after a few months, do the same again for Apple Music...
BTW, this must also be the reason why Apple Music free tier has radio (outside of Beats-1) included only in USA and Australia (that is, those countries that already had contracts for iTunes Radio in place).
 
So just go in with 6 of your friends or family members to get the family plan. It's 15 Bucks for the family plan, divided by 6 people it's just 2.50 per person. Ridiculously cheap.

Do you have to share the same library with everyone in your family plan?
 
Do you have to share the same library with everyone in your family plan?
I think you share the library in the sense that all of you will have access to the Apple Music library and perhaps all music uploaded through the iTunes Match portion of the subscription. However, I think everyone will keep his own playlists, profiles,...
 
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Really dude? Yosemite nothing like OS 8.
Really vato. I never said exactly like it but i said in terms of flatness it's closer to is than for example lion. Nothing is exact. It's more retro than like the last "so many" versions.

Don't i remember you from those old dell commercials. That's retro also.
 
Let see what we got here:
  • Excited comments about Apple Music - check
  • People hating on Apple Music and thinking it will fail - check
  • People complaining about it possibly not going to be available in their country - check
  • Taylor Swift joke - check lol
  • People arguing about a design - check
  • People complaining about music format and/or CD quality sound. - check
  • Apple Music v. Spotify comments - check
  • Person that didn't even read the article and making false assumptions - check
  • This guy - check
Great. Carry on guys.
Can't wait for this unveiling and I will bookmark certain comments and reply with given praise or 'you failed' posts when we finally see what Apple Music is made of.
Enjoy.
You can add it to the "apple will never make an ipad mini" and "apple will never make a bigger phone" file. I suggest we call it the "D" file for denial.
 
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This has probably been discussed but what format will the streaming be in? 256 or 320?
It should be in Apple iTunes Plus format, like in their iTunes Store (they are basically using the same storage) just the front-end is different. It's AAC TVCBR (True Variable Constant Bit Rate) with 256kbps on average (can have peaks even higher).
 
Trent, good to see you move into the third phase or your career. Those times backstage at Shoreline were fun.

Now, who will be the first artist to come in on the "Apple Music Wave" before the end of the year?
 
As usual we get hit by Apple tax .. $9.99 + 20% (VAT) = $11.99 -> £7.62 at todays rate (1$:£0.6351)
So £2.37 ($3.76) profit to Apple, even allowing fluctuations in the exchange rate, Apple is probably making $2.50 per person extra profit in the UK

There have been screenshots of an iOS 8.4 beta version showing a price of $9.99 in the USA, £9.99 in the UK, and €9.99 in the rest of Europe. Which should make it pretty obvious that these are not the actual prices, but the number 9.99 with a currency added, depending on where you are. Because there is absolutely no way that Apple would charge £9.99 in the UK and €9.99 on the continent. £9.99 in the UK would go with €13.99 on the continent.

With about 20% tax added, I'd expect £7.99 and €10.99. There is no way that Apple charges 25% more than that in the UK and 10% less in Europe.
 
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I think you share the library in the sense that all of you will have access to the Apple Music library and perhaps all music uploaded through the iTunes Match portion of the subscription. However, I think everyone will keep his own playlists, profiles,...
All the accounts have to be paid using the same credit card, I believe. So whatever person in your group is going to put their card on the account had better trust everyone else not to purchase apps, tv seasons, audiobooks, etc., and never pony up the money.
 
Probably the biggest issue with Apple Music is at $9.99 a month there just isn't a lot of profit to be made after all the royalties are paid. The good news for Apple is most of the other streaming companies are on pretty shaky ground financially and if Apple is aggressive enough, hopefully it can drive most of them out of business. After competition is reduced or eliminated it can raise the price to a more realistic $19.95-29.95 a month and make a killing on this service.
 
Do you have to share the same library with everyone in your family plan?
I'd imagine we will share the same iTunes Match library. What I'd also like to know is will we each have our own Radio stations? I don't want the stations my 11-year old creates to be on my phone.

Also, I've heard others mention in this thread how they'll probably cancel Spotify when Apple Music launches. If the hints from this Youtube video are true, then I'll for sure cancel Spotify and iTunes Match in the next couple of months due to unnecessary overlap.

Just recently, I was driving home from work listening to iTunes Radio. A track from an artist I'd never heard of played, sparking my interest in hearing more from that particular album. As I was switching to the Spotify app to call up the album on demand, I thought, "In a few days, I might not have to switch apps to do this". I hope that turns out to be true. Spotify has been great, but I'm ready for a more seamless experience.
 
That's how several paid streaming services work, but the music is deleted if you stop using the service.

Or possibly not deleted, but stops working. So if you decide that Apple Music is not for you, then you can change your mind three months later and don't have to download anything again. Or if you don't change your mind, you can purchase your favourites.

So, I have always purchased my music and have set up my playlists primarily as Smart Playlists based on Genres.

When I purchase a song, I make sure that I give it the appropriate genre(s) so that it automatically populates into various playlists. If I give a song the genre of 'Folk, Morning Music' then it will show up in both my Morning Music and in my Folk and Singer Songwriter smart playlists.

Then, I just bring up a specific playlist and randomly play the songs in it. Some of the playlists have many thousands of songs.

Will I be able to continue this practice with the paid service? Can I change the genre of a song I download?

When I head down to my cabin in the mountains of Mexico, without internet, will I still be able to play those downloaded songs?

Thanks for any and all clarification that can be shared.

Nobody outside Apple knows for sure. I would think that any music that you download end up in your library, but not marked as "purchased" but marked as "rented". And the only difference is that "rented" music stops playing when you stop paying for Apple Music. With "purchased" music you can still make any changes you like, change the album title, change the artwork, the genre, whatever you like.

Probably the biggest issue with Apple Music is at $9.99 a month there just isn't a lot of profit to be made after all the royalties are paid. The good news for Apple is most of the other streaming companies are on pretty shaky ground financially and if Apple is aggressive enough, hopefully it can drive most of them out of business. After competition is reduced or eliminated it can raise the price to a more realistic $19.95-29.95 a month and make a killing on this service.

That is one of those beautiful ideas that would land Apple in court, and unlike the idiotic iBook ruling, this case would be lost deservedly. Apart from that, in which alternate universe is $240 to $360 a year for renting music realistic?
 
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There have been screenshots of an iOS 8.4 beta version showing a price of $9.99 in the USA, £9.99 in the UK, and €9.99 in the rest of Europe. Which should make it pretty obvious that these are not the actual prices, but the number 9.99 with a currency added, depending on where you are. Because there is absolutely no way that Apple would charge £9.99 in the UK and €9.99 on the continent. £9.99 in the UK would go with €13.99 on the continent.

With about 20% tax added, I'd expect £7.99 and €10.99. There is no way that Apple charges 25% more than that in the UK and 10% less in Europe.

I'd love to believe this, and on the face of it it could happen. iCloud / Photos storage isn't a straight $ to £ conversion for example. But, Spotify has been charging £9.99, $9.99 and €9.99 for their service so I think it very likely that if Apple - of all people - think people will be willing to pay that price then that is what they'll charge. Also, I doubt the labels would allow them to charge less than Spotify in any territory Spotify operates. In fact wasn't that one of the big arguing points a few weeks ago? Apple wanted to come in at $6.99 or something but we're sort of warned that the industry "standard" is 9.99 regardless of currency?

Sounds like price fixing to me, but what do I know?
 
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All the accounts have to be paid using the same credit card, I believe. So whatever person in your group is going to put their card on the account had better trust everyone else not to purchase apps, tv seasons, audiobooks, etc., and never pony up the money.

I haven't tried it, but I believe there is one account owned by the owner of the credit card, and that account must give permission for each permission. So if your kids or your "friends" order stuff, something will come up on your screen where you allow or deny the purchase.
 
Probably the biggest issue with Apple Music is at $9.99 a month there just isn't a lot of profit to be made after all the royalties are paid. The good news for Apple is most of the other streaming companies are on pretty shaky ground financially and if Apple is aggressive enough, hopefully it can drive most of them out of business. After competition is reduced or eliminated it can raise the price to a more realistic $19.95-29.95 a month and make a killing on this service.

That's the most idiotic thing I've read on this forum in quite a while. Over a decade of iTunes has shown that Apple has never been in music for the profit. Services like iTunes have always been drivers for hardware purchases.

$20 a month for Apple Music would simply lead people back to piracy. If anything, Apple has tried to get the industry to agree on a lower price to ensure that a Music subscription is an after thought to most people. The more people that are in Music, the more Apple keeps people in its ecosystem and the more it sells Apple hardware.
 
I don't want to risk bricking one of my development devices with a rushed beta. Apple is being risky by encouraging users to update to a beta within an hour. It will be a disaster if there was another cell blocking bug or worse.
 
That's the most idiotic thing I've read on this forum in quite a while. Over a decade of iTunes has shown that Apple has never been in music for the profit. Services like iTunes have always been drivers for hardware purchases.

$20 a month for Apple Music would simply lead people back to piracy. If anything, Apple has tried to get the industry to agree on a lower price to ensure that a Music subscription is an after thought to most people. The more people that are in Music, the more Apple keeps people in its ecosystem and the more it sells Apple hardware.

All I am saying is that Apple has the size and ability to run the other services out of business and once they have done that it does allow them to adjust pricing. I predict Spotify won't exist within 2 years. They have been struggling as it is and Apple Music will be the final nail in their coffin. Amazon and Google have enough scale to compete, but if the services aren't making profit they might want to cut their losses.
 
All I am saying is that Apple has the size and ability to run the other services out of business and once they have done that it does allow them to adjust pricing. I predict Spotify won't exist within 2 years. They have been struggling as it is and Apple Music will be the final nail in their coffin. Amazon and Google have enough scale to compete, but if the services aren't making profit they might want to cut their losses.

While I agree that Spotify, Rdio and Pandora will have a hard time competing, if anything Apple will use that as leverage to lower the price as they originally wanted. Getting nearly everyone on Apple Music at $4.99/month is better than 30% of users (optimistic estimate) that are expected to pay $9.99/month for streaming services.
 
May - July Spotify $0.99 Trial
Aug - Oct Apple Music Free Trial
Nov - ? Spotify $4.99 Student Discount

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