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That's what happens when one company makes the OS... other company makes the hardware... and the carriers also have to put their spin on it. Too many parties involved.

Android's most-installed version is currently Android 4.4 KitKat... followed by 4.1-4.3 Jelly Bean.

That's 71% of all Android devices on Earth using operating systems that are 2 and 3 years old.

Are we surprised? Most manufacturers barely make any money on the device when they sell it... so why would they spend extra time and money to provide software updates for an "old" device?

The result? The version your device ships with is the one it will die with.
At least you can stay up to date with Windows on a PC.
 
Make the iOS 9 stable and bug free Apple! And see the adoption rate go up faster !
 
I mean this is a perfect example of how apple upgrades screw everything up. Why should your choice of iOS version matter with your choice of OS X version? It doesn't matter what version of android or windows you have, they'll all happily talk with each other. Apple is one company and their version differences cause such trouble with their own products.

It's the type of things people who aren't technical can't comprehend. If you upgrade your iCloud to the newer version older version devices won't access it because the never version supports more features. Older versions of iCloud would just see those new features as scrambled text and could not read the properly. It's better to just not allow older iCloud to access it or you can cause more issues.
 
By far one of my favorite features in iOS is timely and immediate updates.

I have a Galaxy Tab S and Samsung left it at 5.0.2. And it's not even on a carrier, so there's no excuse for non-timely updates. I'm really disappointed by that. Only managed to recieve like 3 updates in its lifetime.

Although Samsung makes pretty bad software (Touchwiz), timely updates are not something they can control on phones. Google should have full control of software distributions, at least by updating the Android backend and leaving the skin to the OEM. Carriers shouldn't have control over anything software related. I'm all against bloatware.
 
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I can't upgrade till El Capitan releases the GM and can update my computers. I can't loose the ability to sync from iOS to OSX... notes and such will screw up. so on Sept 30th I can have iOS 9 - that should have been planned a little closer together imo.
The GM of El Capitan has been out for 6 days. Public and developer.
 
Make the iOS 9 stable and bug free Apple! And see the adoption rate go up faster !

I've NEVER seen a brand new iOS release that was bug-free... EVER. The bugs get patched thoughout the year, but as it becomes more and more bug-free, a new iOS comes out with bugs. Vicious cycle.
 
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It's the type of things people who aren't technical can't comprehend. If you upgrade your iCloud to the newer version older version devices won't access it because the never version supports more features. Older versions of iCloud would just see those new features as scrambled text and could not read the properly. It's better to just not allow older iCloud to access it or you can cause more issues.
It works fine if the company in charge provides compatibility layers. I mean, I can see why Apple avoids that. It introduces a lot of complication. I just wish they didn't have so many updates that we're basically forced to keep up with. I have to update my OS X every single year, risking something going wrong (which has actually happened 100% of the time so far), just to use Xcode. I don't give a crap about the new features and whatever. Handoff? Who even uses that?
 
Make the iOS 9 stable and bug free Apple! And see the adoption rate go up faster !

Have you ever seen a bug-free and 100% stable ".0" update?

No.

Never happens.

No software is completely stable and bug-free. Even iOS 8.4.1, after, what, 8 updates? Apple does a pretty good job at releasing major iOS updates that are relatively stable. At least so far. ;)
 
By far one of my favorite features in iOS is timely and immediate updates.

I have a Galaxy Tab S and Samsung left it at 5.0.2. And it's not even on a carrier, so there's no excuse for non-timely updates. I'm really disappointed by that. Only managed to recieve like 3 updates in its lifetime.

Although Samsung makes pretty bad software (Touchwiz), timely updates are not something they can control on phones. Google should have full control of software distributions, at least by updating the Android backend and leaving the skin to the OEM. Carriers shouldn't have control over anything software related. I'm all against bloatware.
I thought Android was open... Is it just easier to wait for Samsung or a carrier to push an update, or is there no way for a user to update on their own?
 
I thought Android was open... Is it just easier to wait for Samsung or a carrier to push an update, or is there no way for a user to update on their own?
Doesn't work like that.

It's a long process that involves updates from Google (Android itself), the OEM (i.e skins, applications), and the carrier (bloatware and network updates). And after all that is settled there is testing, which could take weeks or months.

That's why Android is still so fragmented. Stock is the way to go, because carriers aren't involved with it, and the OEM is basically Google. Stock Android devices recieve updates much quicker and for longer periods of time.
 
Yuck, that's abysmal.

I love how Android fans always come back to 'oh but Android is more open'... despite the fact that most users live with carrier/handset manufacture bloatware on their phones and as a result of this can't update their phones until the software is 'ready' for their carrier/handset manufacture.

Yes you can 'root' an Android device or 'jailbreak' an iPhone, but I'm talking out of the box! Apple doesn't allow this kind of rubbish out of the box. As such, upgrades are far more 'open' to customers, and are much more widely used.
 
Why is fast adoption such a good thing though? In the apple Camp everyone seems to fall all over themselves jumping on the latest version, but if there's nothing in the new version you want, why upgrade?

On the Apple side, it seems everything is tied into OS version. You upgrade the OS, you have to use the new crippled iWork apps. You have to buy a new copy of parallels, etc. And now you even have to upgrade your bootcamp to windows 8 if you use the latest OS.

Unless you really follow the developments closely, upgrading is just asking for trouble too. Gatekeeper messed up a lot of people who didn't know it existed but suddenly couldn't install apps they'd been using for years.

I agree. Why is it such a good thing that users get access to the latest security updates and features? It should be like Windows XP where we never need to upgrade. /s

You can still use iWork 08 if you want to. BootCamp still supports Windows 7 on older Macs. But since Windows 10 is a free upgrade for Windows 7 and is in the last years of extended support, why should Apple go out of its way to make it work on the newest Macs?
 
I love how Android fans always come back to 'oh but Android is more open'... despite the fact that most users live with carrier/handset manufacture bloatware on their phones and as a result of this can't update their phones until the software is 'ready' for their carrier/handset manufacture.

Yes you can 'root' an Android device or 'jailbreak' an iPhone, but I'm talking out of the box! Apple doesn't allow this kind of rubbish out of the box. As such, upgrades are far more 'open' to customers, and are much more widely used.

That's not what they mean, though.

Having an open file system brings many advantages for application development, which results in more powerful and useful applications, and these far outweigh the disadvantages (being bloatware).

iOS also has bloatware (hell, iOS 9 brings more) and has a closed file system.
 
Apple's iOS 8 is installed on 87% of iOS devices a year after its release, according to new numbers shared by Apple on its App Store developer page. The new numbers come on the eve of the launch of Apple's newest mobile operating system, iOS 9.


Article Link: iOS 8 Adoption Hits 87% Ahead of iOS 9 Release

Note that this is measured at the App Store. By default, those that use the App Store are more likely to upgrade. If they don't go to the App Store, they can't upgrade. So now the real question is 'How many iOS users actually go to the App Store?'
 
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hmmm... guess this means that most apps will switch to iOS8 as the minimum, forcing me to turn my iphone4S into a half brick
 
Of all the things I love about Apple, this might be my favorite. Love that they do their best to keep everyone on the latest OS.
 
Hey now lets not get reckless here. Im still running an iPhone 4 here an frankly i don't need your help.

That moment when you see a 40 year old lady running < iOS 6. Makes me cringe. I just want to steal their phone for an hour and update and organize it...
 
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I can't upgrade till El Capitan releases the GM and can update my computers. I can't loose the ability to sync from iOS to OSX... notes and such will screw up. so on Sept 30th I can have iOS 9 - that should have been planned a little closer together imo.

Actually the sync Works flawless. Notes ask you whether you want to upgrade to the newer version. Sync between OS X 10'10 and ios 9 works great for me.
 
I love how Android fans always come back to 'oh but Android is more open'... despite the fact that most users live with carrier/handset manufacture bloatware on their phones and as a result of this can't update their phones until the software is 'ready' for their carrier/handset manufacture.

Yes you can 'root' an Android device or 'jailbreak' an iPhone, but I'm talking out of the box! Apple doesn't allow this kind of rubbish out of the box. As such, upgrades are far more 'open' to customers, and are much more widely used.

Apple only make a handful of devices and they control both the hardware and software, you get more choice of hardware with Android, but the downside is its more fragmented when it comes to OS updates
 
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By far one of my favorite features in iOS is timely and immediate updates.

I have a Galaxy Tab S and Samsung left it at 5.0.2. And it's not even on a carrier, so there's no excuse for non-timely updates. I'm really disappointed by that. Only managed to recieve like 3 updates in its lifetime.

Although Samsung makes pretty bad software (Touchwiz), timely updates are not something they can control on phones. Google should have full control of software distributions, at least by updating the Android backend and leaving the skin to the OEM. Carriers shouldn't have control over anything software related. I'm all against bloatware.
Serious question. What exactly are you missing? Android core apps update separately from the OS. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that most Android devices are on KK and JB. Does it really matter when all of their core apps are basically running Lollipop? Android app functionality is less dependent on the version of the OS.
 
I mean this is a perfect example of how apple upgrades screw everything up. Why should your choice of iOS version matter with your choice of OS X version? It doesn't matter what version of android or windows you have, they'll all happily talk with each other. Apple is one company and their version differences cause such trouble with their own products.

Because they're not integrated together and suck independently.
What Apple adds that others don't is tight integration of their various ecosystem parts.
If everyone was on a different hardware/software combo, this integration of experience would fall appart.
 
Why is fast adoption such a good thing though? In the apple Camp everyone seems to fall all over themselves jumping on the latest version, but if there's nothing in the new version you want, why upgrade?

On the Apple side, it seems everything is tied into OS version. You upgrade the OS, you have to use the new crippled iWork apps. You have to buy a new copy of parallels, etc. And now you even have to upgrade your bootcamp to windows 8 if you use the latest OS.

Unless you really follow the developments closely, upgrading is just asking for trouble too. Gatekeeper messed up a lot of people who didn't know it existed but suddenly couldn't install apps they'd been using for years.


This is the stance my company took with Windows XP. They would still be using it now if they had a choice. Often with updates there are important things we don't "see" like security patches. This is the same reason my company doesn't upgrade our iPhones right away. When it's stable they will keep that version until there is a valid enough threat that forces us to update.
 
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