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To be fair, Android 5.1 was released in March- six months after iOS 8 came out.

Still, 87% is incredible. I wonder if that number will be higher for iOS 9 in September 2016, seeing as it doesn't drop support for anything.

5.0 took 7 months to hit 13%! 5.1 will be lucky to get to 10% by the time 6.0 comes out!
Android has got one major problem on its hands.
 
After trying 9.0 and 9.1, I'll be staying on 8.4.1 until the OS matures. Say no to lag.
That's very interesting. I have not tried the betas. I'd like to assume that the betas do not represent the final release version. We've all been burnt on that before (not just iOS, software in general). If there has been an under current of unhappiness with the latest beta builds, then I'll hold off too. I use the phone for such basic purposes that the latest and greatest OS doesn't do a whole lot for me. I am severely looking forward to the new WatchOS, however :)
 
Not the case if you have a Nexus device.

Point taken... but that's a supreme edge case.

Nexus represents only a handful of devices out of THOUSANDS

But I will update my earlier statement:

The version of Android that 99.999% of devices ship with is the one they will die with...

:D
 
I personally disagree with adoption rates. I believe in having a smooth OS experience on a device and not pushing the latest OS that "runs" and delivers new features.

I would downgrade a number of my older devices to experience smooth operation again, I recently pulled out my iPhone 4 and iPad 3 which had software updates which had bugs that caused crashes (not last versions of iOS 6/7) and had to upgrade to the iOS 8, very poor experience before and after.

My view is apple pushes these software updates on their devices, knowing that the experience is not ideal, and when a user try's out the latest hardware/software they see light and day and are happy upgrading.

I wish apple would allow us to downgrade to an OS that is suitable to our hardware. Right now it feels like the days when you bought a new windows OS upgrade and it ran like a dog on the hardware, forcing you to upgrade.
 
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For the first time in my Apple product life I'll go from the 87% demographic user to the 11% for the next 12+ months because of the mandatory OS X desktop hardware requirements imposed upon us for iOS9.
 
5.0 took 7 months to hit 13%! 5.1 will be lucky to get to 10% by the time 6.0 comes out!
Android has got one major problem on its hands.

I've read that Android updates don't matter very much anymore. That's not what I believe, but some people try to convince us of that when update adoption rates are brought up.
 
That's what happens when one company makes the OS... other company makes the hardware... and the carriers also have to put their spin on it. Too many parties involved.

Android's most-installed version is currently Android 4.4 KitKat... followed by 4.1-4.3 Jelly Bean.

That's 71% of all Android devices on Earth using operating systems that are 2 and 3 years old.

Are we surprised? Most manufacturers barely make any money on the device when they sell it... so why would they spend extra time and money to provide software updates for an "old" device?

The result? The version your device ships with is the one it will die with.

Is that a bad thing? At least that version of the OS runs smoothly on the device. You just have to read through the MR device forums to see how disappointed people are with older devices running iOS 8, it's not s good experience, but a positive adoption rate, cause it's a one way journey, after you make the mistake to upgrade you cannot go back.

I would prefer apple offered an ideal OS for the hardware and an OS that the device "can" run. Will never happen though, current model is more profitable .
 
Serious question. What exactly are you missing? Android core apps update separately from the OS. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that most Android devices are on KK and JB. Does it really matter when all of their core apps are basically running Lollipop? Android app functionality is less dependent on the version of the OS.

Security updates are always nice.
 
I've NEVER seen a brand new iOS release that was bug-free... EVER. The bugs get patched thoughout the year, but as it becomes more and more bug-free, a new iOS comes out with bugs. Vicious cycle.

I agree, Vicious cycle. New iOS comes with new features that are mostly comes with bugs.

Have you ever seen a bug-free and 100% stable ".0" update?

No.

Never happens.

No software is completely stable and bug-free. Even iOS 8.4.1, after, what, 8 updates? Apple does a pretty good job at releasing major iOS updates that are relatively stable. At least so far. ;)

I know, Apple / Tim Cook always touted their adoption rate higher than Android, but now iOS 8 adoption rate is slower than iOS 7. Apple should try their best to polish iOS 9 when release to public if they want to see adoption rate goes high, so Tim could brag about it in the next WWDC keynote :p
 
Serious question. What exactly are you missing? Android core apps update separately from the OS. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that most Android devices are on KK and JB. Does it really matter when all of their core apps are basically running Lollipop? Android app functionality is less dependent on the version of the OS.
If Android versions don't really matter... why does Google hold a big conference every year to introduce a new version?

Google is gearing up to "launch" Android Marshmallow... yet it won't have any appreciable adoption until 2017

And even then it will only be installed on about 40% of Android devices.

Like you said... core apps get updated frequently. So what does a "new version" of Android actually give you?
 
What about the % of folks on beta releases? I thought that there were at least 1 million on iOS 9 or 9.1 already. Therefore it should have some impact on these numbers, so I think.

I'm on 9.1. You'll love it, folks. Interesting to see the OS on the new phones, doing things I had no idea it could do. 3D Touch!
 
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5.0 took 7 months to hit 13%! 5.1 will be lucky to get to 10% by the time 6.0 comes out!
Android has got one major problem on its hands.

That's cause you assume the google model is to move everyone over to the latest OS. That is your misunderstanding!

Ever cross your mind that supporting the ideal OS for the hardware is looking out for then user, giving them a smooth experience?

Get yourself an iPhone 4 with the latest iOS 8..... Give it a try... It will make sense ....
 
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Why is fast adoption such a good thing though? In the apple Camp everyone seems to fall all over themselves jumping on the latest version, but if there's nothing in the new version you want, why upgrade?

On the Apple side, it seems everything is tied into OS version. You upgrade the OS, you have to use the new crippled iWork apps. You have to buy a new copy of parallels, etc. And now you even have to upgrade your bootcamp to windows 8 if you use the latest OS.

Unless you really follow the developments closely, upgrading is just asking for trouble too. Gatekeeper messed up a lot of people who didn't know it existed but suddenly couldn't install apps they'd been using for years.
Exactly. I'd like to stay on an OS for a long time and receive nothing but security and stability updates. Updating provides almost no benefit and introduces all kinds of extra risks and costs. OS X pushes the updates at you so much that some people could accidentally update, and in some cases, all their stuff gets wrecked.

OS X 10.x.0 deserves to be a beta version, but it's tested on the public. And that IS a great way to test it. It's like all those CS projects in classes that naive students start early on, only to become the ones reporting all sorts of problems in the instructions and/or provided resources that get fixed before the others begin. And the professor says "thanks, guinea pigs". Last time I started early, I had the project spec change drastically on me and force me to rewrite lots of code.
 
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Is that a bad thing? At least that version of the OS runs smoothly on the device. You just have to read through the MR device forums to see how disappointed people are with older devices running iOS 8, it's not s good experience, but a positive adoption rate, cause it's a one way journey, after you make the mistake to upgrade you cannot go back.

I would prefer apple offered an ideal OS for the hardware and an OS that the device "can" run. Will never happen though, current model is more profitable .

It's quite the quagmire.

You've got Apple who offers software to a bunch of devices... even when they really shouldn't be installed.

And then there's Google who offers new software... but it's up to 3rd parties to decide IF you will even get it. (and most likely you won't)

Personally... I upgrade my iPhone every 2 years... so I've had the installed version and the next version. (plus a couple months of the following version before I get the new phone with the new current version)

I've honestly never experienced the problems that some people have here. And I love the new features that a new version of iOS brings.
 
So my iPad 3 has "iOS 9" but since most of the stuff isn't "compatible" with it, those features are turned off, and they're the ones that interest me the most.

That's something no one seems to ever mention. Sure your old device still gets updates but half the new features are turned off and it sometimes/often (depending on the person you talk to) makes your device slower. Maybe it's the rose colored glasses but my iPad feels WAY slower than when I first got it while my HTC One M7 hasn't slowed down a bit.
 
Note that this is measured at the App Store. By default, those that use the App Store are more likely to upgrade. If they don't go to the App Store, they can't upgrade. So now the real question is 'How many iOS users actually go to the App Store?'
All of them. For OSX, all upgrades are managed by the App Store. On iOS devices, I really doubt there are many users that don't ever go into the App Store. Even grandma wants a copy of Words With Friends or Solitaire.
 
That's because iOS 8 was a mess. I'm hoping iOS 9 fixes alot under the hood.
 
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