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Both my iPad Air and iPhone 5S are still running 7.1.2 and even when these 8 bugs keep living on, and the newer apps require 8 and above, I will just keep waiting.
It's just too risky to me to update with all these bugs.

Now granted I know eventually Apple will smooth it out, but am don't want to get frustrated when things don't work. I am no "crash" test dummy!

take the plunge. iOS 8 is great for the very high majority of everyone on a recent device. regardless of what the vocal minority here say.
 
take the plunge. iOS 8 is great for the very high majority of everyone on a recent device. regardless of what the vocal minority here say.

My 5S has been great to me. I don't want to throw it off the Mass Pike if it starts to act like a Android phone.
 
In fact, no offense, most android owners are those geeks who have nothing to do but a lot of time to root or configure their phone to serve their needs while iOS users just buy apps since there's an app for almost every thing on App Store. This is the difference between iOS users and Android users: purchase apps.

No offense, you have no clue if what you talk about.
 
My 5S has been great to me. I don't want to throw it off the Mass Pike if it starts to act like a Android phone.

well, you can get hit by a bus crossing the street, but the law of averages says you're gonna be fine going about your day. me personally, i'm in love with handoff/continuity and improved airdrop. wouldn't go back if they made me.
 
My own iPhone 6 and iPadAir are 64GB (I wanted the phone to be 32gb, but…well you know what happened there). My wife is stuck with her iPhone 5S for another year and a half before her next upgrade, but at least I can get her a newer model iPadMini with larger memory and cellular capability later this year.

Oh your poor wife.... :eek:

Have you us-americans no other issues to deal with?

*disgusted*
 
That doesn't justify Lollipop's abysmal adoption numbers, but it is a factor in why iOS 8 has a higher adoption rate than Lollipop so far.

The thing is it won't ever matter which was released first, carriers and vendors don't find it worth their time or effort to quickly release new versions of Android for the phones they've already been paid for, and frequently never do so.

It almost doesn't matter when Android is updated, the vast majority either don't care enough or can't access the new stuff until they get a new phone, where it starts all over again.
 
Poor Android devs. All that work...

They're doing fine. I have an android phone that I still pull out to use when I can't find a comparable ios tool to use. Or when the iOS version costs more than the android phone.

In reality, I switched away from the android phone I had simply because my carrier moved to a new network system that didn't work with the model phone I had anymore. I decided to try the iPhone.

While I really have no complaints about the iPhone, in general I do miss much of the functionality of my old Android phone. Despite it being on Android 2.x, it is still very functional, it's apps are up to date, core programs and tools are current. And I regularly find reasons and tasks that keep it from ending up retired.

My next phone is more likely to be Android than ios. Not because I don't like my iPhone. But simply because I had more options and tasks that I could do on Android.

A basic that I miss is a file system. I could actually use the Android as a replacement for my computer. Store any documents I needed in a way I could easily retrieved them and send / open / do whatever I wanted with them. In ios, a PFD might as well not exist if you're not in a PFD reader app at the moment.

With Windows 10, it's entirely possible I might even go back to windows phones.

Another basic from Android, time and date stamping in the image. A simple necessity. Yet cannot be done on an iPhone without using separate tools. That's so basic, that's something we've been able to do since before digital cameras. Yet Apple can't implement this on supposedly state of the art modern technology?

I use my iPhone and it generally serves its purpose. I rarely need a computer. But when I need more than what the iPhone can do, I pull out my Android 2.x phone.
 
The wait time for new android releases to catch manufacturer, then carrier support is rediculous. It seems google could care less, just as long as it is released "they are doing their job." I wonder if Google will ever catch up with Apple on this issue, because when a new iOS is release it hits all compatible phones. Just another disadvantage for my G2, but I guess I'm lucky since at the very least my phone will receive it eventually. My tab 10.1 2014 on the other hand, well I don't think it will ever see lollipop...
 
And you're dead wrong. Most of people in my family ranging from 12 to 60 update their iOS themselves. I don't think Android folks in that range would know. In fact, no offense, most android owners are those geeks who have nothing to do but a lot of time to root or configure their phone to serve their needs while iOS users just buy apps since there's an app for almost every thing on App Store. This is the difference between iOS users and Android users: purchase apps.
With only hearsay in mind, you are cheating yourself out of a very interesting and enjoyable experience. I've been using both Top of the line Android phones as well as iPhones concurrently for years. They are both excellent smartphones that today are the best of the best. A pleasant eye opener for you would be to learn about Android via first hand experience of long enough duration that you could learn the OS. Haters have biased you with stories from years ago. Current versions of Google's fine OS are delightful.
 
iOS 8.1.3 on my iPad is still buggy and wish I could go back to 7.1.2. No noticeable difference between the two anyway.

Kit Kat on old 2012 Note II has everything I hope iOS will get like multiwindow multitasking, runs stable with 1418 hour uptime since last intentional reboot and up to 6 day standby on WIFI/LTE with VOIP always running with GV in circle icon (this on 32nm so can you imagine upcoming 14nm). No rush to upgrade when everything runs great although Lollipop is available.

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Wtf!! Ur using it as a dumb phone. Lol.
 
What a waste of time article. I am an Apple fan and I don't like Android, but this article is a farce. It attempts to mislead by appearing to show that Apple users are keen to upgrade while Android users aren't.

Its a fact that the numbers are what they are, how about re writing it on the basis of of all the devices that can upgrade, who has???? More so, of all the devices that have upgraded to iOS8 and Lollipop, how many wish to go back??

Lies, Lies and Statistics
 
And how many people reverted back to an older iOS after 8 made their device sluggish & open to security issues.

When the general public can't roll back their FW easily like Android, what can they do but take what has been forced on to them.

You are in denial if you think your average android user is downgrading their devices software.

If that's the case, lollipop is a pretty awful OS to be at barely 2% market share, millions most of downgraded from it right? Cause a majority of android users regularly downgrade their software.
 
well, you can get hit by a bus crossing the street, but the law of averages says you're gonna be fine going about your day. me personally, i'm in love with handoff/continuity and improved airdrop. wouldn't go back if they made me.


Telso, do you have a 5S?
 
no problems here. in fact more stable than 7 was.

is your device broken? you should get it checked out.

Some people are experiencing legitimate issues with iOS 8. Many of those people think that everyone is experiencing the exact same issues they do, and therefore they think that nobody should update to iOS 8.

Just look in any "iOS X.X Bug Fixes and Changes" or "iOS X.X released" threads, and you'll see people complaining that Apple isn't fixing the "important" bugs. Because their bugs are far more important than anyone else's bugs... some people don't understand that the world doesn't revolve around them.

And yes, there are a select few users on this forum that seem to have unique problems with every single version of iOS on every single device. I sure hope nobody pays attention to them.
 
1 billion android powered devices shipped in 2014.... What were you saying?

AND??? There are tons of free and cheap junk Android phones flooding the universe. Pretty easy to achieve that amount of sales. When comparing to Apple only Samsung truly puts out a phone comparable and anything people really care about so your 1 billion Android products sold is now a useless argument. :)
 
All I can say is LOL! I have an iPhone 6 and a new android device patiently waiting for Lollipop to be released for it! This is why I love apple and won't go fully droid!

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Very hard to believe iOS 8 is at that kind of adoption. Such a horrible OS.

Meh. I like it:). And that's what counts.
 
The number suggest either:

(a) Android users are satisfied with KitKat and scared of updating to Lollipop because of fears of Google and/or bugs.

(b) Android users have gotten frustrated with the Android experience and stopped using their devices before Lollipop.

(c) Android users have no need to upgrade since Google and app devs support legacy versions of Android unlike Apple who ditch the previous iOS versions as soon as they release a successor.
 
its not entirely innacurate.

Google has moved the core of their services to an App model, rather than built in directly into the OS.

This includes the Photo and camera, Google now, email, browser, Calender, phone, clock, Contacts, Docs/sheets, Google Drive, Fit, Keyboard, etc.

these are all able to be replaced, upgraded independently of what version of Android they are running on. This gives google the ability to provide many of their services and software backwards to older devices, even if those older devices don't run the latest version of Google.

That means, your Android 4.2 phone, might be forever stuck at 4.2 because Sony decided that after 6 months, they weren't going to update your phones OS anymore, But, you still have access to virtually all the google services that someone on 5.0 gets. This renders knowing what version of Android you are on, to be less important.

Where, on the other hand, most of Apples applications that are shipped are bundled into the OS itself and often do not get updates till the OS gets updated.

So, in other words Google is trying to find a piecemeal way around a boneheaded decision that they made when they gave the carriers and handset manufacturers so much control over their OS?

And tell someone who has that 6 month old phone that the version of OS is unimportant when they can't get their work email on it, because their phone doesn't have the necessary version of the OS to support the proper security protocol. I see it regularly.

No matter how Android apologists want to slice it, 1.6% adoption rate on a 4 month old OS is just comical.
 
You are in denial if you think your average android user is downgrading their devices software.

If that's the case, lollipop is a pretty awful OS to be at barely 2% market share, millions most of downgraded from it right? Cause a majority of android users regularly downgrade their software.

I think you need to learn about iOS and Android before making baseless and incorrect conclusions. Perhaps read the thread to learn
 
I think you need to learn about iOS and Android before making baseless and incorrect conclusions. Perhaps read the thread to learn

? What have I stated thats baseless? Go ask 10 people with android on the street if they have ever downgraded their firmware, 9/10 won't know what firmware means and the other 1 person will probably say no.
 
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