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I don't take any of this seriously. I have seriously heard absolutely anything you could say to me. I've been using Apple products for several decades. I used them through grade school, high school, community college, college, and law school, and as a small business owner. I have listened to Apple be ridiculed by so many people, for so many reasons, that if you seriously think you could find anything original to ridicule then you are delusional.

p.s. I agree with the other guy. When someone i talk to tells me what phone they use, or computer, i never feel the need to make fun of or ridicule what they are using. Seems about as pointless as could be. Use whatever you want, it really doesn't matter. Life is too short for that.

But how else would they validate their purchases and make them feel good?
 
Never had a single issue since iOS 8 installation, now I'm quite satisfied by iOS 8.1

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updating ipad 2 made it much slower. Think twice about updating older iOS devices.

From my experience with 45 iPad mini (basically same hardware), it's no worse than iOS 7

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If most people could go back to 7 there would be less than 10% on 8.

I can't see a single aspect where iOS 7 is better than iOS 8.1
 
I wonder how many people updated their older phones thinking they could get Apple Pay.... even though it was only available to iPhone 6 and 6 Plus because of hardware..

Anyone who is that stupid, can't be smart enough to even know how to upgrade.

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And half those people wish they hadn't updated.

Half of these people? Where do you get that info?
Got to laugh at people who present their thoughts as a fact.
 
I don't think anyone was "scared away" from updating because of the issues that "plagued" iOS 8. Most people don't read MacRumors.

It's most likely because they don't have enough space to update. iOS 7 was more scary for people since normal people were talking about it.

I think that, beside usual people trolling this thread about a buggy software iOS 8.1 isn't, you nailed it: the only reason refraining people from upgrade is the free space required for an OTA.
 
you exaggerate. How many million of people...and only a small percent are bitching....like you

I'm a long time active user, and a longer time lurker on this forum: it's always the same. At any single release there are dozens of whiners here bitching on how iOS X (put any number of previous release here) was better. It's actually very amusing :D

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Replace "iOS 8" with "iOS 7" and "iPhone 4S" with "iPhone 4" and this could have been a post from 12 months ago.

You could play the same game for any previous release ;)

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It's not like these issues were only here on MacRumors. When my mom calls me and asks me about "that thing with iOS" I know it's gotten some pretty hefty news coverage. The iOS 8.0.1 bug was shared everywhere.

Yes, that was a real bug affecting a small percentage of users but still very important.
Other than that, people are complaining over "instabilities" I can't really see in iOS 8.1

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So when you read "51% of Apple phones have stopped working" posted by some anonymous guy in a discussion forum, you think it's true? You think anyone thinks it's true?

O. M. G.

Actually when I read a post like that I think about someone trolling the thread....

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Have a look on these forums about the problems with IOS 8, some of the biggest problems ever, it made my Air almost useless, I started using my iPad 2 on 7 because the Air was so slow.

You have a software issue or a defective iPad, because the iPad air has absolutely no problems with iOS 8.1

I'd suggest a restore as new and a news installation of apps one by one.

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Are we to conclude you've taken some comprehensive poll to base that statement on?

Like iOS7, everyone I know that's updated to iOS8 has had plenty of complaints about it. If you would do even a quick search on iOS8 Issues, you'll find a multitude. That Apple stopped people from being able to downgrade after allowing them for a short time has not gone unnoticed either, and added more anger to their issues.

I'd love to see an actually meaningful poll, not just how many tried out this irreversible update, but how many are happy they did, and how many wish they could undo it now that they've seen what it's done to their expensive devices.

Apple's really been on a downward slide for a while now.
Your plenty of complains actually are a few hundred (a very few) over millions and millions of units installed.
There are no downward slides. There are just the usual complaints about everything Apple does.
The only real annoying bug was iOS 8.0.1, and it was solved quickly.
 
Please stop making this kind of thing news. If like "only 20% of active iOS devices", then it's news.
 
I'm in the 5% class!!

Ha Ha! I am one of the 5% of iOS users out there! I have an iPad 1 running iOS 5, and 2 iPhone 3Gsssssssss (pluralizing anything with an S is annoying anyway, so I go with a snake sound) running iOS 6. Awesome.
 
People probably learnt from their past mistake of updating to the then-also buggy iOS 7 without a way of going back.
 
So where are the +100 millions of pre-iOS 8 devices?
There is WAY more older devices than new ones out there.
 
Still rocking iOS 7.1.2 here and couldn't be happier with my iPhone 5 and iPad Air.

Had to help the mom though. She needed to upgrade to iOS 8 to play her scrabble game. Immediately upon setting up her phone I noticed some weird quarks with the keyboard. Keep in mind she's using an iPhone 5S.

Had to leave quicker than what I would've liked, however, from my experience, iOS 8 seemed much less refined than its predecessor.
 
Ha Ha! I am one of the 5% of iOS users out there! I have an iPad 1 running iOS 5, and 2 iPhone 3Gsssssssss (pluralizing anything with an S is annoying anyway, so I go with a snake sound) running iOS 6. Awesome.

You notice much issues not using updated apps?

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Are we to conclude you've taken some comprehensive poll to base that statement on?

Like iOS7, everyone I know that's updated to iOS8 has had plenty of complaints about it. If you would do even a quick search on iOS8 Issues, you'll find a multitude. That Apple stopped people from being able to downgrade after allowing them for a short time has not gone unnoticed either, and added more anger to their issues.

I'd love to see an actually meaningful poll, not just how many tried out this irreversible update, but how many are happy they did, and how many wish they could undo it now that they've seen what it's done to their expensive devices.

Apple's really been on a downward slide for a while now.

Put your money where your mouth is and short Apple stock 'til the rest of the year.
 
updating ipad 2 made it much slower. Think twice about updating older iOS devices.
Thanks for the advice triplex - I have an old iPad3 (couldn't update because not enough free memory) and iPhone 4S to update, but I think after reading your comment, I might as well hold off. After all there are no real benefits to be had as far as I can see.
 
I think that, beside usual people trolling this thread about a buggy software iOS 8.1 isn't, you nailed it: the only reason refraining people from upgrade is the free space required for an OTA.

It's not 'the only reason'.

I could easily update to iOS8 and I haven't. There is nothing new in iOS8 that I would ever actually use or that isn't already better provided by other apps.

I really liked iOS7 when it came out, but I just don't see any reason to change this time.

I don't care if it's free. I don't care if people say it's good. I don't want to risk making my iPhone 5 slower or more buggy than it already is for a bunch of 'new' stuff I likely will never use - particularly if I have no option to roll back to iOS7.

So far, no one has provided a compelling argument for why I need to change to iOS8, so I haven't.
 
iOS 8.1 here on iPod Touch 5G and iPad Air 2 (So both ends of the scale), and no issues at all.

Don't know what you guys are moaning about, seriously. You all said the same about iOS 5 when 6 came out, then you all said the same thing about 6 when 7 came out and now here we are again. Lemme predict what's going to happen next year...

"iOS 9 is terrible, so glad I stuck on iOS 8 etc etc"

Lol.
 
8.1 on my 5S, wife's 6, and my rMini2.
No problems at all - and liking the feature improvements too.
Sounds like some people have had problems.
But also some - like me - have not.
 
Still rocking iOS 7.1.2 here and couldn't be happier with my iPhone 5 and iPad Air.

Had to help the mom though. She needed to upgrade to iOS 8 to play her scrabble game. Immediately upon setting up her phone I noticed some weird quarks with the keyboard. Keep in mind she's using an iPhone 5S.

Had to leave quicker than what I would've liked, however, from my experience, iOS 8 seemed much less refined than its predecessor.

Yes, I've seen others with iOS 8 having keyboard glitches. iOS 7 from 6 was a perfect transition for me, and I will avoid 8 because it doesn't bring anything new that I want on my iPhone 5.

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So where are the +100 millions of pre-iOS 8 devices?
There is WAY more older devices than new ones out there.

If you're looking at devices that can run iOS 8 vs those that can't, that's actually not true. The increases in sales were enough for the new devices (iPhone 5, 5S, 6) to outnumber the old ones.

Source: http://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-3rd-quarter-2007/
 
But they need to provide an option to downgrade back to the earlier OS - incase the user does not like the new one. After all: The user purchased the phone with the earlier OS: from their point of view, there should be absolutely no reason why it cannot be reinstalled back on it.

I think it is ridiculous.

I have a 4S and would like to try iOS8 (in part to get Pages etc back), but if the performance is as bad as some users are reporting, I do NOT want to be stuck with it. And I don't really understand why I should have to stick with it either. It is just SOFTware after all. Emphasis on "SOFT". It's not as if we are all heading into a repair centre for a HARDware update, is it?

Oh: And before anyone chimes in and says I should purchase a new phone if I want the new OS. The phone is only 6 months old. Came with iOS7. 8GB version. On contract. And I'm very happy with it!

The argument that Apple is intentionally crippling older devices or partaking in planned obsolesce doesn't make much sense to me when over half of the active iOS devices on the planet are on the current build mere weeks after it is released.

Apple provides support for older device in iOS update, people say they are doing it to cripple the device and force an upgrade.

Apple does not provide support for older device in iOS update, people claim they are doing it to force an upgrade.

They can't win.
 
Since iOS 8, including 8.1, I hate Apple :mad:.
Both my iPhone 5S and iPhone 5 are restarting whenever you need them more, i hate it too much now to detail all the problems, but here are some:
iPhone 5s:
- always restarts after few seconds when connecting to Pioneer car player USB port, did not before 8
- sometimes camera stops video recording, or locks, or focuses every 3 seconds in loop on video, not being able to start recording
- phone app sometimes locks playing the keypad DTMF tone until it self restarts

iPhone 5:
- phone shuts down randomly when battery level is below 30%, displays battery low at 28%

I'm seriously considering to leave Apple boat, even if I invested in more Apple devices building a hopefully working ecosystem.
I think that Steve is twisting in his grave by now considering the how bad things turned with all the latest Apple decisions.

That sounds horrible. Personally I am not experiencing any of those issues on our iPhone 5, iPhone 6 or iPod Touch. Even though it is quite a bit of work, I would try to wipe the device(s) and do a clean install (not even restore from a backup, but do it all, all over). Maybe it is worth a try?
 
Anyone who is that stupid, can't be smart enough to even know how to upgrade.

So if you are not tech savvy , and just upgrade when iTunes tells you there is a new version, makes you stupid ????

Some people don't have time to read the fine print mate, apple also is excellent at markerting new features and withholding the caveats during thier presentations.

Fyi. You post is hardly intellectually stimulating , careful throwing those stones.....
 
8.0, 8.0.1, and 8.0.2 had more than enough room for complaints, but I haven't found a single annoying bug in 8.1 that makes me stand up and take notice.

I'm not exactly sure what problem people have with 8.1 at the moment. Could someone enlighten me?

Well, for me most problems disappeared with the 8.1 Update but there are still occasional crashes (after using every iOS since the 3G, and never having a real crash until iOS 7...real crash=having to do a full restart because device does not respond) and infrequent lags (like the device takes a few seconds vacation before reacting to input) still occur, even with apple apps.

With a focus on stability I do get the impression that iOS is getting worse with every new release...which is especially sad since my Windows Phone and Android Handsets tend to get more stable and are now on par (Android) or even a bit more stable (Win) then iOS...not a nice trend.
 
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