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It is weird with the awesome android OS and all the awesome android hardware that the iPhone 4 is still the best phone on the market almost a year after its release.

Amazing really...
 
Nothing revolutionary in iOS5. Not even evolutionary. This is all the same rehashed stuff that their competitors offered for 1+ years.

So what?

I own an Android phone and an iPhone. From my experience, Apple takes their time catching up with features but Google takes their time catching up with polish and usability. On paper, feature-for-feature, Android looks like it blows iOS away but in practice, it's far less definitive. Take copy and paste as an example. The iPhone wasn't first, but it's the most usable. I don't even bother with Android copy/paste as the process of text selection lies somewhere along the pain spectrum between having your teeth pulled and being kicked in the groin.

So yeah, you can criticize Apple for not being first with some of these features, but at least they'll get them right.
 
Nothing revolutionary in iOS5. Not even evolutionary. This is all the same rehashed stuff that their competitors offered for 1+ years.

Just my take, but i feel iOS5 is completely underwhelming

Can we consolidate the 40 different threads with the exact same uninformed topic...
 
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marksman said:
It is weird with the awesome android OS and all the awesome android hardware that the iPhone 4 is still the best phone on the market almost a year after its release.

Amazing really...

Galaxy S II? Seems to be king of the hill for the moment.
 
Android = only exists because Google saw how popular the iPhone was.

Your point?
 
So what?

I own an Android phone and an iPhone. From my experience, Apple takes their time catching up with features but Google takes their time catching up with polish and usability. On paper, feature-for-feature, Android looks like it blows iOS away but in practice, it's far less definitive. Take copy and paste as an example. The iPhone wasn't first, but it's the most usable. I don't even bother with Android copy/paste as the process of text selection lies somewhere along the pain spectrum between having your teeth pulled and being kicked in the groin.

So yeah, you can criticize Apple for not being first with some of these features, but at least they'll get them right.

I completely agree! At least iPhone users get free OS updates without having to root/jailbreak them. :apple:
I'd rather have a phone thats stable and easy to use, sure widgets are nice sometimes, but necessary...not really.
 
Yea and they are still talking about turning mobile data off when on standby, underclocking, etc: This compromise is unacceptable for me.

My G2 gets anywhere from a full day (heavy heavy usage) to 2 days (on the whole time) with a fair bit of browsing and game playing involved.

I'm running the vanilla 2.2 that came with the phone. No underclocking and crazy stuff.
 
lol...wow 24+ with heavy use...on an Evo no less. If you're gonna lie outright at least make it more entertaining.

My iPhone 4 gets 6 months battery life with heavy usage thanks to the powers of the Yellow Sun :rolleyes:

um, don't feel threatened sir. my Droid X with a custom kernel can do 24+ hours of battery life no problems. If i want more, I can easily switch to an extended battery. Swappable batteries. Gotta love Android for that.

I find it odd that some Apple enthusiasts do not believe that Android OS can get 24+ hours of battery life with moderate-heavy usage.

Droid X with light usage.
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Droid X with heavy usage I easily get about 30 hours on extended battery.
 
Android has had Widgets since Day one, It had free syncing of Calender and contacts and instant email. It had its great notification scheme since day one and It has had lock screen info for a while. This adds really no new features to the platform. I think apple is losing their spark.

You got that right. All of the "new" iOS 5 features should have been implemented on iOS 4 last summer.

Apple is playing catch up and who knows where the competition will be in the Fall when iOS 5 is released?
 
But apple continually knocks competitors and hi-lights how they innovate. This time they did not innovate but blatantly copied android.

Five major iOS 5 Rip offs

OTA updates done by the competitor

Cloud system back up and sync done by the competitor

Notification system done by the competitor (Apple ripped off Android on this one)

Cloud sync music done by amazon and Google

Apple is now officially a follower
 
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chris2k5 said:
Google bought Android INC in 2005, before the iPhone was released.

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug2005/tc20050817_0949_tc024.htm

iPhone or no, Android was always going to exist.

And it was going to be crap without iPhone. iPhone revolutionized the industry. Without iOS, Android would've been a feature phone OS at best.

What are you basing this featurephone theory on?

Even the early Android prototypes had smartphone features. The early prototype hardware was based on a HTC design for a Windows Mobile powered Smartphone (can't remember which).
 
Let me know when Google starts to use iCloud (or something like it) to sync your entire computer/mobile world without having the user set anything up or sign-up anywhere, true in-app syncing, for free ... and provide your entire music library for streaming for only $25 a year.
 
Am I the only Android user here who thinks iOS is so much more elegant? Sure they copied our notification system, but they copied it nice. The animations are so much more fluid and looks much better. iCloud is just seamless and on Android I have to deal with all these folders and file systems.

Just my 2c.
 
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Gen said:
Let me know when Google starts to use iCloud (or something like it) to sync your entire computer/mobile world without having the user set anything up or sign-up anywhere, true in-app syncing, for free ... and provide your entire music library for streaming for only $25 a year.

Have you not heard of ChromeOS? Heavily based on cloud computing.

I'm not sure how Google Music will integrate with ChromeOS as yet but it would be logical to assume it would.

Android applications are already wirelessly installed from the web, Picassa web albums are integrated into Android's gallery, Google docs is cross platform and available in both Chrome OS and Android. Then there is Google Calendar, GMail & Contacts synchronized via the cloud.

Apple have a big advantage with their iTunes Match service if you want to pay for it.
 
Let me know when Google starts to use iCloud (or something like it) to sync your entire computer/mobile world without having the user set anything up or sign-up anywhere, true in-app syncing, for free ... and provide your entire music library for streaming for only $25 a year.

Umm guess what Google already has it. Nice try though

Lets see Calandar, apps, email, contacts docs can all be sync threw Gmail only think you have to sing up for/set up is your email account with Google. As much as you have to set up for iCloud (iCloud account) Biggest thing you have to do with Gmail is just turn on more services over time. Active picture sharing by turning on Picasa. App sync by just getting an Android phone and giving it your gmail account.

Entire library is sync for FREE threw Google music.

As for me only thing on that entire list that I had to set up for my phone was Google music. Everything else I have been adding since my Gmail account was set up in 2004. Really do not try those argument unless you have been using it for a while and understand what you are getting into.
 
Yeah, but my Dad could beat up your Dad...

Honestly, who the hell cares. If you like iPhone, use it. If you don't, by an Android and be happy. Personal preference doesn't need to equal flame war.

Me, I've had both. Customising is fun for a while, but I feel I shouldn't NEED to install CyanogenMod just to have a day of battery life and a keyboard that works. At the same time it eats balls I can't have a custom message tone on my iPhone.

In the end, choosing the phone you prefer doesn't mean your joining the Nazi party and everybody else's phone has to suck because it doesn't have blonde hair and blue eyes.

Take a nice chill-the-hell-out pill, sit back in your office chair and text your Mum to say you love her. You'll feel better and we can all put our internet guns away.


Christ.
 
Yeah, but my Dad could beat up your Dad...

Honestly, who the hell cares. If you like iPhone, use it. If you don't, by an Android and be happy. Personal preference doesn't need to equal flame war.

Me, I've had both. Customising is fun for a while, but I feel I shouldn't NEED to install CyanogenMod just to have a day of battery life and a keyboard that works. At the same time it eats balls I can't have a custom message tone on my iPhone.

In the end, choosing the phone you prefer doesn't mean your joining the Nazi party and everybody else's phone has to suck because it doesn't have blonde hair and blue eyes.

Take a nice chill-the-hell-out pill, sit back in your office chair and text your Mum to say you love her. You'll feel better and we can all put our internet guns away.

Christ.

^ Spot on, and also why this thread needs to be locked.
 
Have you not heard of ChromeOS? Heavily based on cloud computing.

I'm not sure how Google Music will integrate with ChromeOS as yet but it would be logical to assume it would.

Android applications are already wirelessly installed from the web, Picassa web albums are integrated into Android's gallery, Google docs is cross platform and available in both Chrome OS and Android. Then there is Google Calendar, GMail & Contacts synchronized via the cloud.

Apple have a big advantage with their iTunes Match service if you want to pay for it.

And all those are web-applications that require you to log-in on each device.
iCloud syncs everything automatically without you having to sign-in or use any web-applications. Everything is done in the background and through the specific applications.

Umm guess what Google already has it. Nice try though

Biggest thing you have to do with Gmail is just turn on more services over time. Active picture sharing by turning on Picasa. App sync by just getting an Android phone and giving it your gmail account.

Entire library is sync for FREE threw Google music.

One, turning more services over time is a pain and very inconvenient.
Google Music is in beta - do you know how many people are currently allowed to use it for free?

Which applications by Google can you sync all at ones without having to use their web-applications?
Google services and iCloud are completely different. iCloud is applications specific and requires no effort, activation, or set-up by the user. Googleapps, require you to log-in to web-based applications. Completely different ball game.

I can use my Mac (or Windows), turn it off and switch to any iOS device and all of my work is the same - and I didn't have to log in to any sites since all of my data is being pushed through iCloud to all my devices. True application-specific integration trumps web-based applications that require a browser.
 
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@Gen:

I don't understand entirely. If I were to access iCloud across 2 Macs and an iPhone, I'd have to log in with my Apple I.D on each device or sync the iPhone with one of my Macs to access my cloud content, just as I do on my Google applications. How is this achieved across devices without me signing in on each device (perhaps I've missed that one). Can you explain more?

Once I set up sync on my Android phones or via Chrome, all of my Apps are restored from the cloud and my bookmarks, passwords settings and extensions are synchronized across platforms that I sign in to.

Just to set up home sharing in iTunes I've had to authorize and log in to my Apple account.
 
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