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Is iOS6 a disappointment from what you learned in the keynote?

  • It was NOT a disappointment.

    Votes: 760 50.9%
  • It was definitely a disappointment.

    Votes: 732 49.1%

  • Total voters
    1,492
Nope

You never were a die-hard Apple freak. We don't jump off easily. I was using Macs in '96 when the company was a year away from bankruptcy. Back then when the odds were heavily against Mac users the core of us stood together.

Let me ask this "what make YOU a die-hard Apple freak?" From what I'm reading that you die pretty easily.
Can you guys at least not make it totally obvious that you're a cult?
 
Can you guys at least not make it totally obvious that you're a cult?

You don't have a clue what a cult is. If Android is so damn great, why don't you move your ass on over to Android and be done with it. Instead you come in here and post your nonsense. Yes, the bulk of your post have been nothing but, no one cares what you think.
 
3 things i would like to have :eek:

1) I am still waiting for a "close all Apps" feature in the multitask bar. Is that so difficult to include such option :confused:

2) Also a Power menu in the notification bar is needed in order not to have to leave an app each time you want to go at the settings.

3) A redesigned multitask (like web os) in order to avoid home buttons double click and save time with sth more fluid.

ps - as an ex 2 years android user i dont care about widgets. iOS is all about the Apps. I wouldnt like widgets in the homescreen but if they decide to put them in the lock screen/notification bar it would be nice for tech geeks.
 
I don't care what you call it. I'm a real Mac user that doesn't claim he's "die-hard" and then flakes and talks about jumping ship. Must be a new school kind of thing.

Exactly, all these folks are just so full of nonsense. iOS6 is a terrible upgrade. Then freaking don't upgrade and move your ass over to Android where you'll get tons of upgrades. NOT! LOL Oh, but its an open platform, so I don't need upgrades.

The thing is some folks like iPhones, some like Android's there is wrong or right it's a choice. If you don't like iPhone's or iOS then move on. However, these folks don't know how to move on, they just hang around bitching.

I have a sister that loves Android, her one complaint is she's never once gotten an upgrade and it does have some issue, nothing she can't live with.

I think the unreal expectations that people have for Apple is just absolutely crazy. Not every upgrade is going to be mind blowing. So what if Android has done some of these things already.
 
I don't understand why so many people devote themselves to one brand and one brand only. Whether it be only Android phones, only WP7 phones, or only iOS phones, I believe that dismissing the competition does nothing but limit one's own enjoyment, appreciation, and future expectation from one's chosen device. Each of the three phone OS's I listed have their own unique advantages and disadvantages; no phone OS is perfect or ever will be perfect. Competition spurs innovation. I have purchased every iteration of the iPhone, but at the same time I have also purchased an EVO 4g, Galaxy Nexus, and Nokia Lumia 900, and I have enjoyed them all for different reasons. Just my $0.02 :)
 
Guys remember this. Android will actually self cannibalized with this theme race change in each update... like it or not its actually new theme each time. They cant keep up changing the looks of the OS each year... and when they will pace down people will be disappointed and look for sth else cause this is how they have been trained by Google. iOS is getting better and better in the substance of things close to Apples core idea -> simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Googles phone galaxy nexus would never be as smooth as iphone (hardware+software=1) even if it would have 8 cores and 2gb of ram :p. Also ask your self what do u want from a phone? To loose ur time with flashing ***** custom roms from devs who dont even know to program in assembly where their main priority is to add useless custom features in order to close the gap with pc's functionality or to enjoy life with a buttery smooth (working in most times under of most circumstances) iphone? :)
 
I don't understand why so many people devote themselves to one brand and one brand only. Whether it be only Android phones, only WP7 phones, or only iOS phones, I believe that dismissing the competition does nothing but limit one's own enjoyment, appreciation, and future expectation from one's chosen device. Each of the three phone OS's I listed have their own unique advantages and disadvantages; no phone OS is perfect or ever will be perfect. Competition spurs innovation. I have purchased every iteration of the iPhone, but at the same time I have also purchased an EVO 4g, Galaxy Nexus, and Nokia Lumia 900, and I have enjoyed them all for different reasons. Just my $0.02 :)

I can't speak for others, but I've tried Android and owned Windows machines and I was miserable and found the OS not to be seamless and invisible to me. I don't want to have to deal with an OS. I want things to work not have to tinker or tweak anything.

The other thing for me is that I have a complete ecosystem that Apple has provided. It all just works together so well that going with anything else now just doesn't make much sense.

I am sure I am not alone in having tried Android only to quickly return to an iPhone. Look Androids are great phones and for the most part they work well. But they don't have nearly the support in 3rd party accessories, they don't have support in most vehicles and therefore there is no real ecosystem. I have truly grown to enjoy that as part of my Apple world and it makes my life easier. Simple as that!

If you like and want PC with Windows Great, If you want Android or Windows based phones, go for it. However, I don't get this mentality that because I happen to like one brand over the other that I need to go around to forums and web sites dedicated to the competition to make my choice known. No one cares!
 
I can't speak for others, but I've tried Android and owned Windows machines and I was miserable and found the OS not to be seamless and invisible to me. I don't want to have to deal with an OS. I want things to work not have to tinker or tweak anything.

The other thing for me is that I have a complete ecosystem that Apple has provided. It all just works together so well that going with anything else now just doesn't make much sense.

I am sure I am not alone in having tried Android only to quickly return to an iPhone. Look Androids are great phones and for the most part they work well. But they don't have nearly the support in 3rd party accessories , they don't have support in most vehicles and therefore their is not real ecosystem which I have truly grown to enjoy as it makes my life easier. Simple as that!

iOS seems to be a good fit for you based on your criteria.

And I most certainly agree with you about Apple's complete ecosystem. It's simple, easy to use, and convenient. I also agree with you about 3rd party support and accessories. For example, I have a problem with buying iPhone cases and most of the awesome cases come out for the iPhone, for obvious reasons (same thing with accessories).
 
I can't speak for others, but I've tried Android and owned Windows machines and I was miserable and found the OS not to be seamless and invisible to me. I don't want to have to deal with an OS. I want things to work not have to tinker or tweak anything.

The other thing for me is that I have a complete ecosystem that Apple has provided. It all just works together so well that going with anything else now just doesn't make much sense.

I am sure I am not alone in having tried Android only to quickly return to an iPhone. Look Androids are great phones and for the most part they work well. But they don't have nearly the support in 3rd party accessories, they don't have support in most vehicles and therefore there is no real ecosystem. I have truly grown to enjoy that as part of my Apple world and it makes my life easier. Simple as that!

If you like and want PC with Windows Great, If you want Android or Windows based phones, go for it. However, I don't get this mentality that because I happen to like one brand over the other that I need to go around to forums and web sites dedicated to the competition to make my choice known. No one cares!

I think it's great that you tried out other options before finalizing on the iPhone. My only problem with your post(s) and the few others above was with how harshly they came off. This is a forum to exchange different ideas and opinions, which ultimately leads to better understanding. :)
 
I am still waiting for a "close all Apps" feature in the multitask bar. Is that so difficult to include such option

This is absolutely one of the major requests from my end too. It's not a big thing, but oh would I love that functionality implemented.
 
Guys remember this. Android will actually self cannibalized with this theme race change in each update... like it or not its actually new theme each time. They cant keep up changing the looks of the OS each year... and when they will pace down people will be disappointed and look for sth else cause this is how they have been trained by Google. iOS is getting better and better in the substance of things close to Apples core idea -> simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Googles phone galaxy nexus would never be as smooth as iphone (hardware+software=1) even if it would have 8 cores and 2gb of ram :p. Also ask your self what do u want from a phone? To loose ur time with flashing ***** custom roms from devs who dont even know to program in assembly where their main priority is to add useless custom features in order to close the gap with pc's functionality or to enjoy life with a buttery smooth (working in most times under of most circumstances) iphone? :)

This is not true. Galaxy Nexus runs much smoother than the iPhone. Google's flagship phone is considered a DEV phone for reasons such as customization of the OS. With that custom ROM comes stability, speed, and performance. And it doesn't take much time to install custom ROMs.

I don't get where programming assembly has anything to do with iOS or android development. IOS is development is written with objective c, and android with java.

Statements like this remind me of Cubs fans. You're so secluded in your own ecosystem that you don't see the light that other devices might have.

By the way, self cannibalized? Android is far from that. Can't self cannibalize when you have devices like the S3 become the largest smartphone pre-order ever with over 9 million.
 
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I was disappointed. Didn't really care for much of the features. One of the things I was hoping for was quick settings in the notification bar. If they can add everything else that's there, why not some quick settings. I have no problems in general with io, but I'm moving to the galaxys3. I really want a bigger phone, iOS 6 doesn't make me want to wait for a bigger phone. Also the lack of supporting the older hardware, specifically iPhone 4 & iPad 2. C'mon. There's gotta be a way to have Siri & turn by turn work on them. I just don't think they worked hard enough on it. Talk about fragmentation. I'll be giving my iPhone 4s to my wife & her iPhone 4 will be an iPod touch for the kids. I still have my iPad (new) and love it.
 
I think it's great that you tried out other options before finalizing on the iPhone. My only problem with your post(s) and the few others above was with how harshly they came off. This is a forum to exchange different ideas and opinions, which ultimately leads to better understanding. :)

I don't think I was harsh, I was just being blunt and straight up about it. I just find when folks allow their expectations to run rampant it is time for a reality check. If you read through this thread, you quickly realize that a lot of these folks have way too high expectations. It is like every-time Apply does an upgrade it is suppose to just be out of this world and knock our socks off. That is just nonsense in my book. No every upgrade is going to have tons of features and eye candy.

Apple will never do what Google has done with Android, which is if you compare 2.3 to 4.0 its almost like using a new OS all together. I think most folks appreciate the always familiar interface. I'll take function over eye candy any day. If you prefer full customization and eye candy, then you can jailbreak or go Android.

Life is full of disappointments, but continues on nonetheless.
 
I don't think I was harsh, I was just being blunt and straight up about it. I just find when folks allow their expectations to run rampant it is time for a reality check. If you read through this thread, you quickly realize that a lot of these folks have way too high expectations. It is like every-time Apply does an upgrade it is suppose to just be out of this world and knock our socks off. That is just nonsense in my book. No every upgrade is going to have tons of features and eye candy.

Apple will never do what Google has done with Android, which is if you compare 2.3 to 4.0 its almost like using a new OS all together. I think most folks appreciate the always familiar interface. I'll take function over eye candy any day. If you prefer full customization and eye candy, then you can jailbreak or go Android.

Life is full of disappointments, but continues on nonetheless.

Having a familiar interface means you are not looking for innovation. It's like being secluded in your bubble world.

Freedom of choice is always a good thing.
 
Having a familiar interface means you are not looking for innovation. It's like being secluded in your bubble world.

Freedom of choice is always a good thing.

I just don't buy that argument, you can bring about add on features and even changes to the way certain features work without breaking the familiar interface itself.
 
I don't understand why so many people devote themselves to one brand and one brand only.

For me, it's because I am happy with what I have (iPhone), and I love the integration using iTunes/iCloud/iPad/iPhone/Mac. Whatever the benefits of android/wp7, it's not worth the hassle of making it sync with my other devices ( if that's even possible) and starting over again on both apps and learning the OS. If there was something I really wanted that iOS didn't have then I'd try something else, but I'm basically satisfied.
 
I just don't buy that argument, you can bring about add on features and even changes to the way certain features work without breaking the familiar interface itself.

I guess we can agree to disagree. That's like saying that Apple should have kept the interface of the Apple 2 instead of OS X.
 
This is not true. Galaxy Nexus runs much smoother than the iPhone. Google's flagship phone is considered a DEV phone for reasons such as customization of the OS. With that custom ROM comes stability, speed, and performance. And it doesn't take much time to install custom ROMs.

I don't get where programming assembly has anything to do with iOS or android development. IOS is development is written with objective c, and android with java.

Statements like this remind me of Cubs fans. You're so secluded in your own ecosystem that you don't see the light that other devices might have.

By the way, self cannibalized? Android is far from that. Can't self cannibalize when you have devices like the S3 become the largest smartphone pre-order ever with over 9 million.

Obviously you have confused smoothness with speed. Even iphone 3GS is smoother than any current android phone. And even a Galaxy S1 with custom rom and semaphore kernel could be faster in scrolling speed than iPhone 4S. I ve owned more than 10 android phones last year with galaxy nexus bought in day one. As most of the android geeks i was loosing money with buying android devices after 3 months of ownership. iPhone 4 is my first iphone and i already own it for six straight months.

I dont see any light from android devices any more. Ofcource its easy to flash a rom.... but count on this that new Roms pop out 2-3 times per week and you should have to set your phone all over again if you want a clean install. I regret all the time i missed to forums like xda,rootzwiki in order to flash roms with more theme options, better battery , to improve ***** audio quality/signal of most android phones.... etc Boring stuff for me now... i just want to enjoy my phone. Stock ICS is beautiful but hardware lacks.... and ofcource i totally prefer apple store ecosystem where you have more variety of Apps and all of them optimized just for one device.

A dev phone? The real devs where only the ones who programmed in assembly.... programmers who developed for example AMIGA OS and brought us those fine PC's where hardware and software was one. Those devs you are refering to are just good students of simple programming languages like C++,Java etc.

You have to accept that they are a lot of people and they are a lot more than the "tech geeks" (who in reality they are not tech geeks... the real tech geeks died before Microsoft era) who dont give a f about flashing roms and playing with their phones. I just want to use my phone as it is with its great Apps... and i am not trapped in apples ecosystem. I want competition... i crossed my fingers when Google acquired Motorola cause i hopped that they should introduce their own unique mobile phone but they choose to continue their Microsoft way of distributing their OS. And for god shake those android phones are getting bigger n bigger.... they are like mini tablets.

Its a total shame for Samsung, HTC to commercialise their phones as being quad cores when ICS isnt even fully exploited by dual cores.
http://wmpoweruser.com/intel-android-dual-core-so-poor-having-a-second-core-is-actually-a-detriment/

Apple never releases pre order numbers so you cant compare really. 's important to note, I think, that those pre-orders are to carriers not to users. So 9 million Galaxy SIII units have been pre-ordered by more than 100 carriers across the planet. This is indicative that those carriers are anxious to get their hands on the new impressionable Samsung handset, and that they think it will be a popular phone, which in itself isn't too surprising (as it is the newest flagship handset). This does not mean, however, that there will be 9 million new Galaxy SIII phones on the streets immediately upon release, because in a curious move carrier pre-orders were revealed, very different from end-user pre-orders (which is most usually what companies like to promote).
 
Obviously you have confused smoothness with speed. Even iphone 3GS is smoother than any current android phone. And even a Galaxy S1 with custom rom and semaphore kernel could be faster in scrolling speed than iPhone 4S. I ve owned more than 10 android phones last year with galaxy nexus bought in day one. As most of the android geeks i was loosing money with buying android devices after 3 months of ownership. iPhone 4 is my first iphone and i already own it for six straight months.

I dont see any light from android devices any more. Ofcource its easy to flash a rom.... but count on this that new Roms pop out 2-3 times per week and you should have to set your phone all over again if you want a clean install. I regret all the time i missed to forums like xda,rootzwiki in order to flash roms with more theme options, better battery , to improve ***** audio quality/signal of most android phones.... etc Boring stuff for me now... i just want to enjoy my phone. Stock ICS is beautiful but hardware lacks.... and ofcource i totally prefer apple store ecosystem where you have more variety of Apps and all of them optimized just for one device.

A dev phone? The real devs where only the ones who programmed in assembly.... programmers who developed for example AMIGA OS and brought us those fine PC's where hardware and software was one. Those devs you are refering to are just good students of simple programming languages like C++,Java etc.

You have to accept that they are a lot of people and they are a lot more than the "tech geeks" (who in reality they are not tech geeks... the real tech geeks died before Microsoft era) who dont give a f about flashing roms and playing with their phones. I just want to use my phone as it is with its great Apps... and i am not trapped in apples ecosystem. I want competition... i crossed my fingers when Google acquired Motorola cause i hopped that they should introduce their own unique mobile phone but they choose to continue their Microsoft way of distributing their OS. And for god shake those android phones are getting bigger n bigger.... they are like mini tablets.

Its a total shame for Samsung, HTC to commercialise their phones as being quad cores when ICS isnt even fully exploited by dual cores.
http://wmpoweruser.com/intel-android-dual-core-so-poor-having-a-second-core-is-actually-a-detriment/

Apple never releases pre order numbers so you cant compare really. 's important to note, I think, that those pre-orders are to carriers not to users. So 9 million Galaxy SIII units have been pre-ordered by more than 100 carriers across the planet. This is indicative that those carriers are anxious to get their hands on the new impressionable Samsung handset, and that they think it will be a popular phone, which in itself isn't too surprising (as it is the newest flagship handset). This does not mean, however, that there will be 9 million new Galaxy SIII phones on the streets immediately upon release, because in a curious move carrier pre-orders were revealed, very different from end-user pre-orders (which is most usually what companies like to promote).

Not true about apple preorders:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20118013-17/iphone-4s-preorders-top-1-million-in-single-day/?tag=mncol;9n

I own a 4S and a Galaxy Nexus. Galaxy nexus has shown me to be much smoother in performance. I ran bench marks as well, and yes even though bench mark doesn't prove every day use, it does for me since I use my phone extensively.

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Yes, 40% is not "most" no matter what you believe to be the case.

Here's your quote

Calidude said:
..most people were not positive about iOS6


"Most" can be presumed to be the highest percentage.

iMores categories and results

Mixed, some good some not so good = 39.79% (neutral not entirely negative not entirely positive)

Liked it. Apple nailed what they had to = 29.9% ( positive)

Loved it. Best update ever = 11.86% (positive)

Didn't like it. Apple went in the wrong direction = 11.74% (negative)

Hated it. Worst update ever = 6.72% (negative)


I'm not sure how you make the case for most people being not being positive. Adding the the "Loved it" and "Apple nailed what they had to " together which are the two positive results refutes what you say.
 
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