iOS6 is probably the most underwhelming release of iOS to date

[TennisandMusic]

I don't think I was harsh, I was just being blunt and straight up about it. I just find when folks allow their expectations to run rampant it is time for a reality check. If you read through this thread, you quickly realize that a lot of these folks have way too high expectations. It is like every-time Apply does an upgrade it is suppose to just be out of this world and knock our socks off. That is just nonsense in my book. No every upgrade is going to have tons of features and eye candy.

Apple will never do what Google has done with Android, which is if you compare 2.3 to 4.0 its almost like using a new OS all together. I think most folks appreciate the always familiar interface. I'll take function over eye candy any day. If you prefer full customization and eye candy, then you can jailbreak or go Android.

Life is full of disappointments, but continues on nonetheless.

So wait, you actually prefer android?

 

[Calidude]

I'm not sure how you make the case for most people being not being positive. Adding the the "Loved it" and "Apple nailed what they had to " together which are the two positive results refutes what you say.

Are you being serious right now? You're trolling, right?

Even by your definitions and my quote, if you add up the ones that are "not positive" they add up to 58.25% which is most of the poll takers.

I seriously can't believe you couldn't figure that out. Your credibility went way down with that post.

 

[matttye]

Its a total shame for Samsung, HTC to commercialise their phones as being quad cores when ICS isnt even fully exploited by dual cores.
http://wmpoweruser.com/intel-android-dual-core-so-poor-having-a-second-core-is-actually-a-detriment/

If that's true then I look forward to the day it utilises all four cores in my S3, as the Exynos 4 Quad FLIES in this thing already.

It makes my iPad 2 look slow.

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Are you being serious right now? You're trolling, right?

Even by your definitions and my quote, if you add up the ones that are "not positive" they add up to 58.25% which is most of the poll takers.

I seriously can't believe you couldn't figure that out. Your credibility went way down with that post.

I think iOS 6 is a fairly sucky update but your point doesn't make much sense mate. More people have voted positively than negatively, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here

 

[Calidude]

I think iOS 6 is a fairly sucky update but your point doesn't make much sense mate. More people have voted positively than negatively, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here

Most people voted mixed or negatively, not mostly positively.

 

[matttye]

Most people voted mixed or negatively, not mostly positively.

That doesn't prove anything though. You need to take the "mixed" ones out of the equation altogether as they could be used on either side of the argument.

Most people voted mixed or positively, not mostly negatively.

See what I mean?

 

[Seiga]

That doesn't prove anything though. You need to take the "mixed" ones out of the equation altogether as they could be used on either side of the argument.

Most people voted mixed or positively, not mostly negatively.

See what I mean?

Semantics about a poll are just dumb. People love it and hate it.

What's baffling is that Jobs stated that the iPhone was 5 years ahead of it's time back with the OG iPhone. 5 years later........

 

[QCassidy352]

That doesn't prove anything though. You need to take the "mixed" ones out of the equation altogether as they could be used on either side of the argument.

Most people voted mixed or positively, not mostly negatively.

See what I mean?

Cali is technically right: most people were "not positive" because 60% were NOT in one of the two positive categories. however, it is also true that most people were "not negative." A more accurate statement would be: a plurality of people consider it generally positive with a large number having mixed views and smaller number having generally negative views.

 

[matttye]

Semantics about a poll are just dumb. People love it and hate it.

What's baffling is that Jobs stated that the iPhone was 5 years ahead of it's time back with the OG iPhone. 5 years later........

Not baffling at all; he was a damn good salesman.

Cali is technically right: most people were "not positive" because 60% were NOT in one of the two positive categories. however, it is also true that most people were "not negative." A more accurate statement would be: a plurality of people consider it generally positive with a large number having mixed views and smaller number having generally negative views.

Yeah I agree with the fact that most people in that poll were "not positive" in literal terms, but calidude doesn't exactly hide his dislike of the iPhone/iOS and I suspected he was trying to use that poll to say that most people dislike iOS 6, which isn't the case.

 

[Calidude]

Cali is technically right: most people were "not positive" because 60% were NOT in one of the two positive categories. however, it is also true that most people were "not negative." A more accurate statement would be: a plurality of people consider it generally positive with a large number having mixed views and smaller number having generally negative views.

Yeah that's what I was trying to put across. It was no lie that most people didn't have a positive stance on iOS6 in that poll. However, I don't think anybody could consider a mixed reaction to be favorable, despite not officially being considered positive or negative.

 

[Seiga]

Not baffling at all; he was a damn good salesman.

That is true. It was at one point a truly "Magical" device!

 

[mrsir2009]

Most people voted mixed or negatively, not mostly positively.

To be fair, 900 people in an Apple forum doesn't get you anywhere near the full picture of how many people think iOS was a disappointment or not. To get the full picture you'd not only need get the opinions of tech enthusiasts, but grannies, kids, average joe's etc etc...

 

[Calidude]

To be fair, 900 people in an Apple forum doesn't get you anywhere near the full picture of how many people think iOS was a disappointment or not. To get the full picture you'd not only need get the opinions of tech enthusiasts, but grannies, kids, average joe's etc etc...

But we as tech enthusiasts don't and shouldn't really care what they think since they aren't like us. That's why we're on a tech forum. Because we only care about what other tech enthusiasts say. The other people aren't really informed like us, so why should we listen to their opinion?

This is like saying an economist should worry about the opinion of the average voter on what to do about the national economy.

 

[TLewis]

OK, while I think iOS6 is just a big bowlful of "meh", the mods need to close this thread, because the derp is getting too strong here.

 

[LostSoul80]

You can't deny that it has been presented in a very professional way.
The keynote was pretty good. We can be happy about that, at least.

 

[matttye]

But we as tech enthusiasts don't and shouldn't really care what they think since they aren't like us. That's why we're on a tech forum. Because we only care about what other tech enthusiasts say. The other people aren't really informed like us, so why should we listen to their opinion?

This is like saying an economist should worry about the opinion of the average voter on what to do about the national economy.

It's average joes that Apple cares about, I think, and who probably make up most of their sales. Only us geeks want things like NFC, file system access, widgets etc. Most people couldn't give two hoots about any of that stuff.

From a business perspective they're actually very clever. Tech enthusiasts are small in number compared to the masses who will buy what's cool - the iPhone. They can therefore get away with small trickle updates each time.

Whereas other companies are actually advancing, Apple is simply milking the customers, and people are allowing it to happen. It's genius.

 

[Calidude]

It's average joes that Apple cares about, I think, and who probably make up most of their sales. Only us geeks want things like NFC, file system access, widgets etc. Most people couldn't give two hoots about any of that stuff.

From a business perspective they're actually very clever. Tech enthusiasts are small in number compared to the masses who will buy what's cool - the iPhone. They can therefore get away with small trickle updates each time.

Whereas other companies are actually advancing, Apple is simply milking the customers, and people are allowing it to happen. It's genius.

It really is genius. I'll give Apple that. They have such a captive and dependent audience that nobody can match.

 

[jman240]

I'm sure this has been mentioned but has anyone compared iOS 6 release to iOS 5? I mean, besides Siri, we pretty much knew everything that was coming in iOS 5 at WWDC and it seemed like a much more substantial update.

Just looking at Apple's two sites for the updates we can compare the 10 features they highlight.

iOS 5

1. Notification Center (huge reworking of notifications to be IMO the best on any mobile platform)
2. iMessage (free messages, big deal closer to killing SMS)
3. Newstand (lukewarm at best, interesting concept)
4. Reminders
5. Twitter (integration everywhere, lots of new twitter accounts, I still don't use it)
6. Camera (+ shutter button / lock screen access / grid lines)
7. Photos (crop, magic fix, rotate, etc)
8. Safari (reading list, reader mode)
9. PC Free (OTA updates, photo stream, icloud, iTunes match, documents, etc)
10. Mail, Calendar, Game Center, WiFi Sync, Multitasking Gestures for iPad, Airplay Mirroring, Accessibility (all these are lumped together)

Lets not forget iCloud, free mobile me, online backups and sync for almost everything and delta over the air updates and iTunes match.

iOS 6.0

1. Maps (completely redone, big feature, some like it some don't)
2. Siri (added functionality but limited to newer devices.)
3. Facebook (same thing as twitter integration but new share sheets is nice)
4. Shared Photo Streams
5. Passbook (precursor to nfc I think)
6. Facetime (over 3G on select devices, yawn)
7. Phone (they added a couple things to this app, nothing huge)
8. Mail (attach photos from inside message, VIP lists)
9. Safari (icloud tabs, full screen finally, offline reading lists)
10. Accessibility (neat locking features for displays / autism)
11. Find My Phone, Find my Friends, Remodeled Stores, New Features for China (lost mode tracks your phone constantly, local friend alerts, new store designs and some China specific features that we probably won't see or use)

Find these things here http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html and here http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/ and don't forget they launched iCloud with iOS 5 so those features are here http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/

Overall I'd say they had more to talk about with iOS 5 that was new because of iCloud more than anything. It was a huge welcomed change. Maps is give or take and the rest of iOS 6 is just patch worthy IMO. Just thought the comparison was interesting.

Interesting trend I spotted after I submitted this post.

1. Reworked big iOS centric feature
2. Functionality update
3. [compare to 5] collection of items from apps.
4. New app / feature
5. [compare to 3] System integration of a social feature
6. Small update
7. Added features for more complete app
8. Added features for more complete app
9. iCloud
10. [if you include 11 from iOS 6 list] Various small updates that don't need their own category.

 

[Grolubao]

That's what makes this SO DAMN SAD.

We're supposed to be the high level geeks who have the strictest standards out of all the userbase, and yet we STILL have a majority of people that LIE to themselves as to what makes a satisfactory featureset in a major OS revision.

We're supposed to have the Sherlock Holmes magnifying glass, and we're still being suckered into accepting outmoded software as being a good standard, and due to some kind of religious worship of Apple, we love them for pushing out something that lacks features that a Symbian phone from 2005 had.

Seriously guys, wake up. Wake the hell up. This is just ridiculous.

I like Apple, I really do, but indeed this release is ridiculous... Facetime over 3G major feature? Gimme a break, seriously...

Or they release a great new feature with the new iPhone or I'm going to look into Android.

My brother actually switched to Android and his comment was: man, it felt good to just mount the phone in my mac and just copy the music folders, no more iTunes ********.

 

[whodareswins]

Seriously, that was pretty lackluster.

I know there's another poll already but it's terribly constructed. This one is simple.

Lets summarize the 10 big features of iOS6 shall we?

From this page: http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/

1) Maps: Ok, that's big enough. Whole new interface. Whole new backend. Yep.
2) Siri tells you sports and movie stuff: Yeah sorry, that's a cloud feature.
3) Facebook: Social Networking garbage that should have been paired with Twitter last year. Doesn't even deserve a spot of its own.
4) Shared photo streams: An x.1 addition at best. All they did was make photo stream social. An enhancement, not a feature of its own.
5) Passbook: An app that I could have downloaded from the app store like "Find my Friends". Most people won't use this. They trust the native app more than a consolidated solution.
6) Facetime over Cellular: Something that should have always been there when Facetime came out. No reason to delay except to ration out the features.
7) Phone replies: Should have been there since iOS1. A complete joke. Typical Apple nonsense rationing of features.
8) Mail enhancements: Stuff that should have been there in iOS3. OMG APPLE THANKS FOR LETTING ME ATTACH STUFF IN THE MAIL APP. Complete crap, typical Apple rationing of features.
9) Safari enhancements: Typical stuff that should have been in iOS5 with iCloud. More feature rationing.
10) Accessibility: Apple JUST realized that kids and sick kids can use devices you manipulate with your fingers and parents might want some fine grained control? This should have been around since iOS3 as a minor feature that every parent can use. Typical Apple trying to showcase a feature because they want to portray how they REALLY care about children.

Anyway, yeah, iOS6 is a joke. I'm done with this nonsense for good.

Forget all the fanboys voting you down. You have summed up my exact thoughts. It was a complete dissapointment. Where are live icons? More customisability in Notification centre (music control etc).

Like you've said, most of the 'features' are just enhancements that should of been years ago. Which is why I'm thinking of going Android come upgrade time.

 

[nuckinfutz]

I like Apple, I really do, but indeed this release is ridiculous... Facetime over 3G major feature? Gimme a break, seriously...

Or they release a great new feature with the new iPhone or I'm going to look into Android.

My brother actually switched to Android and his comment was: man, it felt good to just mount the phone in my mac and just copy the music folders, no more iTunes ********.

Apple never said FaceTime over 3G was a major feature they just highlighted the change which took all of a minute. You're the one using it as a straw man for your argument.

I use iTunes match so it's pretty much easy to add music to all my devices easily without having to mount anything.

Forget all the fanboys voting you down. You have summed up my exact thoughts. It was a complete dissapointment. Where are live icons? More customisability in Notification centre (music control etc).

Like you've said, most of the 'features' are just enhancements that should of been years ago. Which is why I'm thinking of going Android come upgrade time.

Live icons? LOL no one cares about live icons. Music Control?

Obviously you're tweaky. Go to Android. The last thing the masses probably want is a mucked up OS because you want a widget for every simple feature.

 

[Ljohnson72]

Live icons? LOL no one cares about live icons. Music Control?

Obviously you're tweaky. Go to Android. The last thing the masses probably want is a mucked up OS because you want a widget for every simple feature.

I think lots of people care about live icons. It's one of the best features of WP7 (live tiles). Furthermore, wanting a toggle for 3G/Wifi/Bluetooth hardly constitutes being a "tweaky."

 

[Rogzilla]

This is why some of you have such low standards. You actually think there's no right and wrong. Now we're getting to the root of the problem.

When it comes to an opinion, there is no right or wrong.

"Opinions are like *******s. Everyone's got one and they all stink!"

But hey, at least you didn't ignore the bulk of my post and only quoted a single part to further your misguided narrative.

 

[OTACORB]

It really is genius. I'll give Apple that. They have such a captive and dependent audience that nobody can match.

Yeah and that really just seems to be a burr in your ass, cause you keep saying the same old thing over and over and over!

 

[Calidude]

Yeah and that really just seems to be a burr in your ass, cause you keep saying the same old thing over and over and over!

I'm going through why iOS6 sucks point by point and sticking to the facts of the matter. The iOS6 supporters in this thread however, seem to largely be unable to say anything except "get an Android" or "anything that goes against iOS6 is trolling" or "Apple did touchscreen phones first so anything they do is golden".

When you guys actually have a decent argument as to why people should not be disappointed with iOS6, I'll say something different.

By the way, boys, that poll crept up to 46%. The tide is turning, slowly but surely. Another iOS disappointment like this and we'll be well into the 50% range so start writing those feedback emails to Apple so iOS7 doesn't end up as yet another snoozefest.

 

[Seiga]

Obviously you're tweaky. Go to Android. The last thing the masses probably want is a mucked up OS because you want a widget for every simple feature.

I love how apple enthusiasts' response to a flaw in iOS is "Go to Android".