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iOS6 is probably the most underwhelming release of iOS to date
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What's sad is that all I want is a simple answer to my question that no one can state. We have dedicated iOS apple users in here, and not one can answer my question.
I can name at least one. I'm not going to state it, but here is a clue. It's hardware related.
I can name at least one. I'm not going to state it, but here is a clue. It's hardware related.
The great thing about iOS is it's uniformity, not only is it easy to learn but if you've ever used any version of iOS, whether it be on the iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad, you know how to use all versions of iOS regardless of device, because the core functionality is there across the board. And to an extent, a Mac as well since Apple is bringing over features from the iPad, such as Launchpad which is currently in Lion, or Notification Centre, Game Centre, Notes, Reminders, etc., which are in Mountain Lion, and will be familiar.
Another is how well it works with everything Apple; the level of integration that exists is great and is only going to increase with the release of iOS 6 and Mountain Lion.
Another is the vast app ecosystem for both iPhone and iPad.
I don't see anything revolutionary in iOS 6, but I do see a lot of solid refinements and some long due improvements. The improvements to Siri are great, and the Maps app is fantastic.
I think the whole iOS vs Android debate is kind of pointless. They're very different OSes which target very different markets and everyone has different needs which either OS will either meet or not meet, there's no "wrong" OS.
But I'm an iOS user, and I like the improvements in iOS 6. I've been running it for a while now and it's much better than iOS 5.
Another is how well it works with everything Apple; the level of integration that exists is great and is only going to increase with the release of iOS 6 and Mountain Lion.
Another is the vast app ecosystem for both iPhone and iPad.
I don't see anything revolutionary in iOS 6, but I do see a lot of solid refinements and some long due improvements. The improvements to Siri are great, and the Maps app is fantastic.
I think the whole iOS vs Android debate is kind of pointless. They're very different OSes which target very different markets and everyone has different needs which either OS will either meet or not meet, there's no "wrong" OS.
But I'm an iOS user, and I like the improvements in iOS 6. I've been running it for a while now and it's much better than iOS 5.
I'd like to add this suggestion to the fold:
If Apple wants to appeal to a broader audience, they should create 2 versions of iOS. One for basic users (this one) and one for advanced users, with features that make iOS act more like OSX, complete with filesystem, customization options, advanced options, etc.
This would steal away a lot of Android users who want something that acts more like a laptop in their pockets, and ensure Apple's dominance in the market, while giving the current users the choice to stay with something less advanced that "just works".
I'm saying this in vain of course, because despite such a novel solution, you guys will respond to my suggestion with things like "that's fragmentation!" or "Apple shouldn't do anything to compete with Android!" or "I claim to be a tech geek but I want crippled technlogy!" or "Apple created touchscreen phones so anything they do is holy and irrefutable!" or "I am neither a senior citizen nor a child nor a soccer mom but I want to use the phones they would use!" or "I don't really care about the software because the iPhone is nothing more than a status symbol to me!".
What it comes down to is something I've noticed in the duration I've posted here on Macrumors: that many people here hate choice. I'm not sure why they do, but they do. Maybe this is an opinion instilled in them by Apple or maybe Apple attracts a certain kind of people, who knows, but for some reason, people here seem to hate the idea of being given a choice unless APPLE SAYS THAT SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ANOTHER WAY, and magically, they seem to agree with that way as well, and they act as if Apple did what they always wanted.
So. Freaking. Creepy.
If Apple wants to appeal to a broader audience, they should create 2 versions of iOS. One for basic users (this one) and one for advanced users, with features that make iOS act more like OSX, complete with filesystem, customization options, advanced options, etc.
This would steal away a lot of Android users who want something that acts more like a laptop in their pockets, and ensure Apple's dominance in the market, while giving the current users the choice to stay with something less advanced that "just works".
I'm saying this in vain of course, because despite such a novel solution, you guys will respond to my suggestion with things like "that's fragmentation!" or "Apple shouldn't do anything to compete with Android!" or "I claim to be a tech geek but I want crippled technlogy!" or "Apple created touchscreen phones so anything they do is holy and irrefutable!" or "I am neither a senior citizen nor a child nor a soccer mom but I want to use the phones they would use!" or "I don't really care about the software because the iPhone is nothing more than a status symbol to me!".
What it comes down to is something I've noticed in the duration I've posted here on Macrumors: that many people here hate choice. I'm not sure why they do, but they do. Maybe this is an opinion instilled in them by Apple or maybe Apple attracts a certain kind of people, who knows, but for some reason, people here seem to hate the idea of being given a choice unless APPLE SAYS THAT SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ANOTHER WAY, and magically, they seem to agree with that way as well, and they act as if Apple did what they always wanted.
So. Freaking. Creepy.
What it comes down to is something I've noticed in the duration I've posted here on Macrumors: that many people here hate choice. I'm not sure why they do, but they do. Maybe this is an opinion instilled in them by Apple or maybe Apple attracts a certain kind of people, who knows, but for some reason, people here seem to hate the idea of being given a choice unless APPLE SAYS THAT SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ANOTHER WAY, and magically, they seem to agree with that way as well, and they act as if Apple did what they always wanted.
So. Freaking. Creepy.
For many, it's the Apple way or the highway. Which is odd, because Apple is still a corporation just like any other that which just wants you for your money (easily seen by the fact Apple slowly trickles in features and then limits updates to 1-2 year old devices). Apparently only Apple can do something creative or innovative. Just wait for when Apple inevitably adds widgets/toggle switches and everyone on MR goes gaga over them.
I fully expect that if Apple adds such things, that certain people here will swear up and down that those things are NOT widgets or toggles. They'll say its something new, created entirely by Apple.Just wait for when Apple inevitably adds widgets/toggle switches and everyone on MR goes gaga over them.
Heck, there's people here that to this very day deny that Apple took the Notification center from Android.
Oh... that's why I should prefer iOS over Android... Because Apple makes a crapload of money off me!
Have you actually used iOS6? Many of the native apps have received UI updates, there much more usable and look better now.
I'm sure we'll see more features when the iPhone 5 is announced. BTW all you do here is troll anyway.
that's not the only reason 
The thing about Apple is they know how to say "no" to features just as well they know how to add them..
But do they have a reason to say "no" to a lot of features, other than so that they'll have something to beef up their next major OS?
Indeed it is! Innovation is not purely shooting out new features for the sake of innovation, but to do it at the right time and in a way that it works as intended. Especially as Apple focuses on some features and tries to do them right, where competitors are releasing half-breed implementations only to improve the paper specs...Stagnation in innovation is a virtue now...
Who knew?
Apple is not perfect, either - think of e.g. the Me debacle. But in comparison they have a pretty good track record!
Yeah it only took 5 years to get the "attach files in email app" feature right...
5 years to get the "upload via Safari" feature right...
3 years to get the "tiny task manager at bottom of the screen accessed with home button" feature right...
And so on and so on...
Call me when apple breaks Samsung's Galaxy S 3 pre order record of 9 million.
See, I can play that game too. Apple fanboys are funny!
I can play that game too, call me when the 9 million phones actually ship and are sold.
Apple's 4.5 million figure was prepaid preorders from my remembrance of the news articles, the 9 million from Samsung is product in channel. Any salesman will tell you thats a big difference.It means Samsung have had store orders and customer orders for a total of 9 million it does not mean that they have sold (and been paid) for that many units, as the 9 million covers phones unsold sat on shelves in phone stores.
Not saying the S3 will not break the iPhones sales records in time (it looks a decent phone if a little big for my tastes) but press releases using statistics can be bent to mean anything so are usually useless. That includes Apple, everyone has an angle so you have to look at the details to see how the claims line up against each other. Barking statistics without the analysis is pointless.
Edwin
Yeah it only took 5 years to get the "attach files in email app" feature right...
When the iPhone was introduced, Apple was not shooting at the business segment, where RIM would excel with its Blackberry mail solutions (at the cost of huge and clunky devices with a poor UI).
It was aiming at the private customer, where a smartphone was considered a consuming device with limited hardware resources on limited-speed networks, which you would not really want to use for actually sending attachments rather than checking your mail every now and then when on the road.
Now that the world has turned and hardware and networks have become so much more powerful, Apple changed focus and delivered a solution which seems to please even you.
Apple invented usable internet browsing (via Safari) on a mobile device in the first place - i don't care too much whether uploading was a step-child in that process. Actually i'm glad that they did not waste resources on that area too early and instead concentrated on the core competence of a browser: actually browsing the net!
When the iPhone was designed, the hardware was limited in areas like CPU power, ram and battery. Thus the decision was not to focus on "luxury things" like multitasking, but on using the scarce resources as good as possible in selected areas.
These areas included (besides others) a proper touch interaction UI on a mobile device. Again - i'm glad they decided against wasting resources on "luxury features" before having a proper implementation of basic foundations like e.g. the touch UI.
Plus - the iPhone is following a different UI approach than e.g. Android devices. Therefore you may not like the implementation of task management, but for Apple i'm sure it fits the overall internal UI guidelines and the vast amount of iPhone customers seem to be pleased with it as well.
You pick out only the negative points (which are there - no question) and leave out the positive ones completely. Maybe you could tell some things that you actually like about iOS and why you actually use the platform (or if you don't use it, why you bother to write here). Would make it easier to put things in perspective...
What are the new languages? Can you direct me to the list, pls?
The Siri FAQ web page said it would support "Chinese"
in 2012. I hope that actually means Mandarin and Cantonese, and not just Cantonese.
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And you sound so surprised. Practically all forums of the same style as this one (focusing on one company/platform and its associated products) has the same sort of people. It's just how it is, and it's quite entertaining. Fact of the matter is that companies copy each other - I don't see why people are still surprised by this fact.
iOS 5 does everything I need it to do and iOS 6 just improves on those same tasks. Just like any upgrade, its just icing for me. On the other hand, I'm not one to imagine unrealistic expectations about any technology months before it is even announced. Thus I'm rarely disappointed.
This.
Apple fanboys are so hypocritical. "Oh we don't need widgets, that's just bloat".
Apple: "iOS 6.1 now features widgets on the home screen"
Fans: "omg! That's what we needed! We rock!"
Have you read the change log? Have you messed with iOS 6? Because I have. I have a DEV license. And I can say that iOS 6 is just a Cloud update. UI changes are extremely minimal.
I can play that game too, call me when the 9 million phones actually ship and are sold.
It means Samsung have had store orders and customer orders for a total of 9 million it does not mean that they have sold (and been paid) for that many units, as the 9 million covers phones unsold sat on shelves in phone stores.
Not saying the S3 will not break the iPhones sales records in time (it looks a decent phone if a little big for my tastes) but press releases using statistics can be bent to mean anything so are usually useless. That includes Apple, everyone has an angle so you have to look at the details to see how the claims line up against each other. Barking statistics without the analysis is pointless.
Edwin
I seriously doubt that folks that pre ordered will decide on not getting the device. Especially since their predecessor was named the best smartphone of 2011. And of course apple trying to block sales in the US is just too funny, it is almost pathetic. Shows how scared they are.
I hope the "add all features now" people don't ever win out at Apple. If they do, Apple will cease to be special in any meaningful way.
I had a Smartphone years ago that had a lot of cool features. It was called the HP iPAQ. It was a POS. Because the hardware was too limited, it would run multiple apps before the original iPhone even existed... but it crashed. A lot. It frequently crashed the phone app while on the phone. Sometimes it was so slow that I couldn't successfully answer a call before it went to voicemail. There was no QC on apps, so every single app you installed could possibly brick your phone. Ugh.
If you want the latest and greatest hardware with whatever new feature thrown in there right this minute, you aren't in Apple's target market. Those of us who ARE did the whole "I want MOAR FEATURZ NOWWWW!" thing in college. Then we grew up and realized we just wanted the darn thing to work so we could do the things that make us money and let us create things.
Look, there is a solution out there for those who don't want such tight integration with hardware, slowly released feature sets to match the hardware and network requirements, etc. It's called Android. Lots of folks use it, and it seems like a fine OS.
But iOS is different. Those of us who use it WANT it that way. The companies compete by going after different markets and different people. Go enjoy your Android phone.
I had a Smartphone years ago that had a lot of cool features. It was called the HP iPAQ. It was a POS. Because the hardware was too limited, it would run multiple apps before the original iPhone even existed... but it crashed. A lot. It frequently crashed the phone app while on the phone. Sometimes it was so slow that I couldn't successfully answer a call before it went to voicemail. There was no QC on apps, so every single app you installed could possibly brick your phone. Ugh.
If you want the latest and greatest hardware with whatever new feature thrown in there right this minute, you aren't in Apple's target market. Those of us who ARE did the whole "I want MOAR FEATURZ NOWWWW!" thing in college. Then we grew up and realized we just wanted the darn thing to work so we could do the things that make us money and let us create things.
Look, there is a solution out there for those who don't want such tight integration with hardware, slowly released feature sets to match the hardware and network requirements, etc. It's called Android. Lots of folks use it, and it seems like a fine OS.
But iOS is different. Those of us who use it WANT it that way. The companies compete by going after different markets and different people. Go enjoy your Android phone.
Call me when apple breaks Samsung's Galaxy S 3 pre order record of 9 million.
See, I can play that game too. Apple fanboys are funny!
You fell for Samsungs marketing. The 9 million was not preordered by "folks". It was preordered by global carriers. The S3 didn't set any records for preorders.
