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No SD Card slot? Really? I understand the high res disply problems but I find it hard imagine than an SD slot, which is in almost everything, can't be worked in now.

And yes I'm still bitter that my 2008 iMac doesn't have one. GET WITH THE TIMES!
 
That's what I've always held against apple - always behind in technology when they release a new product. I can guarantee you now they could have a retina display on the iPad 2. This "cost" and "manufacturing difficulties" is nonsense. But anyway, apple loyalists will buy anything new apple releases, even if it's just a colour change with no hardware upgrade.

Not really. Apple was practically the first big manufacturer to have Cortex A8 into their major phone and the SGX535 was ahead of most other stuff on the market. The iPad was one of first A8 1Ghz processor-based device. Also for the Retina display, you cannot claim that Apple is "behind" when no one else is really offering anything significantly better. Who else has anything that approaches the Retina-level display on their tablet? In fact there are some grumbling that the $800 Xoom has a display that's inferior to the old iPad's display in terms of contrast and colors. How is that "always behind"?
 
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Funny how on the MBP rumours thread before the release everyone was saying you won't get quad cores - hmm.

Now we have graphic hint on invite for 2/3/11.

Double number of colored circles on right panel of the convention centre.

And we've had news that the new iPad panels are roughly 3 x the originals cost.

I think, somewhere, somehow, Apple may be about to give us a seriously unbeatable viewing experience on iPad 2. Something that kills Kindles, makes Xoom go boom and Galaxies implode.
 
If Apple goes for those specs they will get destroyed by Android tablets. iOS might be efficient, but you can only do so much with that 2009 hardware going up against Tegra 2 platforms with double the RAM. Only a complete moron would shell out $500+ for that hardware.

Those specs will be closer to the Mark than you think.

Apple will not be destroyed by Android tablets.


1.2 - 1.4ghz A4 single core CPU
512mb ram
SGX543 single core GPU
VGA & 1.3 megapixel camera
1024 x 768 IPS display with Anti Glare

Slightly thinner, slightly lighter, Slightly louder (new speaker)

Those specs will offer better frame rates in games than the current iPad, a better browsing experience with far less reloading and improved multitasking, and lastly a suitable solution for FaceTime/skype

What else does hardware wise does it need to drive the software?

I do not forsee iPad software suddenly becoming massively draining on hardware requirements, nor do i see it suddenly becoming that much more advanced than current software locking millions of iPad 1 owners from software.

IPhone 4 software doesn't lock out iPhone 3GS for example even though spec wise it is a lot better than it.
 
No SD Card slot? Really? I understand the high res disply problems but I find it hard imagine than an SD slot, which is in almost everything, can't be worked in now.

By leaving out things like an SD card slot, Apple can keep their price lower than competing tablets that do include such features. The lower price is important for PR reasons.

Those who want a slot can buy the Apple card adapter. Of course, then they end up paying more anyway... and get a wart sticking out of their iPad.

It all makes perfect Apple-sense.
 
Good Grief...

"It's this, It's that, No, wait, we think it's this. Well, now it's that. No, we're backtracking to this, maybe that, maybe, maybe, maybe...."

Months of this nonsense. Chill out, go back to work, and find out next week like everyone else. Sheesh.
 
From my point of view things like an SD Card or USB port would be nice, but not required. For me, the important thing is the overall product... hardware and software. A faster processor, more RAM and a camera for Face Time is what is think the minimum needs to be. Everything else is gravy.

Trust me... I'd love to see an SD card reader built in. I think it would be great for loading photos direct from the camera to the iPad. But not something I would use all the time so no big deal.
 
Apple has now lost their time advantage to the Playbook, Touchpad, and Android tablets as far as specs go. Should really up the competition in the next year(s).
 
Nobody cares about specs but nerds. This is pretty fundamental to understanding the iPad. What will work well is that app performance will degrade gracefully between the iPad 2 and iPad 1. More blanked out Safari tabs on the 1 vs the 2, etc. But generally no noticeable difference.

Specs irritate most people. Everyone owns computers now, but not because they like them - it's because you need them to live in the modern world. 90% of the population just wants a computer that works well.
 
Assuming what Engadget has said is true, then yes, the XOOM is ahead of Apple in the hardware department, and if iOS5 for iPad isn't a significant leap forward in tablet OS engineering, then the XOOM is ahead of the iPad as well in the software department.

Anybody can see this.

:rolleyes:

The software that cannot take advantage of the hardware.
And I have been looking for a rule book which says that a grid of icons are not allowed on a tablet; only widgets + icons will be allowed.
 
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Specs can be pretty transparent depending on what they achieve. Your average user probably won't care about whether or not the iPad2 has the best CPU or most RAM. If it runs quick and stable they will be happy. Likewise if the screen is pin sharp, like IP4's, they will love it. The exact spec numbers mean little beyond here and other such sites. However, the Retina display for IP4 had resonance. Same would be true for iPad 2.
 
:rolleyes:

The software that cannot take advantage of the hardware.
And I have been looking for a rule book which says that a grid of icons are not allowed on a tablet; only widgets + icons will be allowed.

The term "usability" and "user experience" are unknowns to many online geeks. Remember this one?


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http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/12/09/nokia-n97-iphone-comparison/

Of course, as soon as you actually tried use them, you realize the usability goes further than just ticking the check boxes.
 
By leaving out things like an SD card slot, Apple can keep their price lower than competing tablets that do include such features. The lower price is important for PR reasons.

Those who want a slot can buy the Apple card adapter. Of course, then they end up paying more anyway... and get a wart sticking out of their iPad.

It all makes perfect Apple-sense.

1) I can buy and SD card reader for $10, I doubt it is going to be the thing that send it's price $100 higher.
2) Sure I can buy ANOTHER CABLE, like I did for my iMac but now I have my big nice machine with five USB cables running our of it all over the place to make it function with my other standard gadgets (iPhone, camera, external HDD)
3) You're right though, it does make perfect Apple sense, which honestly sometimes doesn't really make logical sense.

It's not a deal breakers but again, makes it feel like Apple is just stubborn to be stubborn sometimes.
 
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I used a couple of win7 tablets last week, destined for UK NHS testing. Spec wise they obliterate iPad. The only thing is, they were almost unusable. Touch accuracy was appalling and the keyboard system an absolute joke.
 
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I used a couple of win7 tablets last week, destined for UK NHS testing. Spec wise they obliterate iPad. The only thing is, they were almost unusable. Touch accuracy was appalling and the keyboard system an absolute joke.

The NHS, using something modern? :eek:
 

I think, somewhere, somehow, Apple may be about to give us a seriously unbeatable viewing experience on iPad 2. Something that kills Kindles, makes Xoom go boom and Galaxies implode.

As much as I want this new iPad to blow everything out of the water Apple won't do that because they don't need to. they will only add enough to make teir unit competitive with other new tablet, but won't really "blow them away".

they will add enough to get a new set of buyers and then next year do the same, always hllding back a new feature everytone kinda wnats for teh enxt one but giving enough that they know a certain market share will still buy.

Look at the iPhone releases for example.
 
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Benjy91 said:
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I used a couple of win7 tablets last week, destined for UK NHS testing. Spec wise they obliterate iPad. The only thing is, they were almost unusable. Touch accuracy was appalling and the keyboard system an absolute joke.

The NHS, using something modern? :eek:

Well, yes, modern but poo!! Seems about right. Idea is to equip various key people with tablets to increase productivity and mesh with what was supposed to be the super-duper NHS computer system.

If my experience was anything to go by these tablets will not be easy to swallow!
 
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Well, yes, modern but poo!! Seems about right. Idea is to equip various key people with tablets to increase productivity and mesh with what was supposed to be the super-duper NHS computer system.

If my experience was anything to go by these tablets will not be easy to swallow!

It's typical when someone like the NHS, or any Governmental body forks out for something new and shiny, they go for the crap. They should have developed their own NHS iPad app, that allowed hospital employees to sign in, make notes about patients conditions etc, and upload the changes directly to the NHS Patient Database from the iPad.

The British Army use iPads to train their helicopter pilots with their own custom app on the iPad. I believe they were the largest single buyer of iPads too, for the UK at least. The BBC have also started rolling out iPads for staff.
 
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FoxhoundADAM - like they 'wont' put quad cores in MBP?

I agree to be honest, seems unlikely. But the Apple invite, Yerba Buena design and reported increase in panel cost for the new iPad all point to something special.

Still, not long to wait and see whether it's some of us who are double or quadruple dense, or the new iPad display : )
 
Apple has now lost their time advantage to the Playbook, Touchpad, and Android tablets as far as specs go. Should really up the competition in the next year(s).

Apple don't need the best specs - they know the product will sell anyway. :p

( A GUI that appeals to the consumer will more than make up for lack of specs ).
 
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Benjy91 - I've been trying that exact route with them, but it's like dealing with a blind nest of grasping Russian dolls.

They'll probably end up buying hundreds of useless tablets that will end up dusty and forgotten like so much else!!
 
Thats way too modest for the ipad refresh i defiantly expect more in order for it to better compete with the andriod 3 / web os/ rimm tablets.

Nah. The iPad 2 will sell like hotcakes. Android tablets can't compete on price like their phones do on the carriers. Where they are practically given away. In some cases ARE given away. Lets keep in mind these are rumors btw. people act like because Engadget said it then its set in stone. First they report sd slot and all that from unreliable sources then they tear down their own strawman. Typical Engadget laziness, sloppiness, and page view/linkbait wh*ring. 512MB ram is fine. 1GB may make people feel better but its not needed.
 
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