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Lead in what Piggie...Market share?!!! I think u would have to be ignorant to everything in life if you think that Apple will ever be able to compete long-term with Android in the market share category, but the problem is market share obviously means nothing. It shouldn't even come up in debates.
The phone business model is different than the tablet model, remember.
Phones are a necessary item, where prices really count. With Android devices filling every tier, marketshare by sheer brute force of numbers, is inevitable. How much of those numbers are due to pure price, more than an actual, considered OS choice, is up for debate.
I don't see that same tactic working in te tablet Market.
 
Amen.

Another "non-starter" product. If the people who constantly talk about "iPad killers" really felt confident that they were, indeed, 'iPad killers," they wouldn't have to come here to talk about it!

+1 I personally think "killer" threads should be wastelanded, they are only here for trolling.
 
The phone business model is different than the tablet model, remember.
Phones are a necessary item, where prices really count. With Android devices filling every tier, marketshare by sheer brute force of numbers, is inevitable. How much of those numbers are due to pure price, more than an actual, considered OS choice, is up for debate.
I don't see that same tactic working in te tablet Market.

Well phones may be seen by many as a "necessary" item, but smart phones certainly are not.
Most of the people I know in real life tend to just use their phones as phones to talk to people and send text messages. I understand "Texting" is a lot more popular in the UK than it is in the US, or it used to be anyway.

I used to have a Smart ish phone myself, but got fed up with is due to it's miserable battery life and went back to my reliable old Nokia that lasts over a week on a charge and I don't have to worry about dropping it etc etc :)
 
Why do they allow these types of threads?

This is troll activity, if you ask me. Yet the tread persists.

I guess the mods have guidelines and don't think out of the box (or whatever.).

I am thinking of purchasing a tablet right now. I found the link to the youtube actually quite useful comparing iPads to this competitor.

I'd hate to see the day when we couldn't have threads about non-apple devices. But I also understand that we need to keep it factual guys! (i.e. no needless provocation)
 
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Perhaps it isn't so much about who is better - technologies will catch up with apple - it's just what brand you are happy to be seen with, what's your tribe? I love apple cause they appreciate and invest in design and they know they can charge a premium for it - so I guess it's the whole I'm a pc all over again. :)
 
I wouldn't buy anything ASUS makes.

And of course you are entirely free and welcome to hold this viewpoint, no one makes you buy anything :)

As long as you can realise and understand there are many people who likewise would never buy anything Apple makes.

We all have our own criteria when it comes to purchasing products.

There is no right or wrong.

I'd happily have an ASUS motherboard in a PC for example.
 
This question needs to be asked!

I always hear about the numerous bugs that Honeycomb has. But now I want to know what exactly are these bugs that are refered to all the time. I mainly read unbaised reveiws endgadget, cnet and such and they have not mentioned them. Please someone please answer this question: What are the Honeycomb Bugs and how do they effect the user experance?
 
and of course you are entirely free and welcome to hold this viewpoint, no one makes you buy anything :)

as long as you can realise and understand there are many people who likewise would never buy anything apple makes.

We all have our own criteria when it comes to purchasing products.

There is no right or wrong.

I'd happily have an asus motherboard in a pc for example.

+1
 
I'm not impressed with Asus. My netbook literally fell apart on me. Cheap plastics and lots of design corners cut.

I don't know what you expect out of the least expensive product they make.

I'm not defending them, simply pointing out that judging any company over just one example of their entry level product, is unfair.
 
I think we will know the Asus has killed the iPad, if when the next big tablet comes out it is compared to the Asus and not the iPad.
If the next big tablet that comes out is referred to as an Asus Transformer killer, and not an iPad killer, I will agree with the OP's opinion. It won't though, they'll call it an iPad killer.
 
I see threads like this and I have to laugh.

First of all, I hope some Android tablet does make it in the market. There is room and there are many people who could benefit from one, but will not buy the real thing.

That being said....

There is always the next Android device that is going to kill some device from Apple. Competition is good etc.

Was Apple pushed to develop the Ipod? Is there even a serious contender in this market pushing Apple to improve. I think not. Apple is pushing themselves.

Was Apple pushed to develop the IPad, again I think not. It is going to be as hard for some company to over take the Ipad as the Ipod. It is about infrastructure. Apple has a great user interface, thousands of apps with new ones every day, you can buy music, movies, books, or magazines. Apps are a click away.

Android is chasing this, but with such a fractured market who is going to house the apps? Who is responsible to make sure that app works on all versions of tweaked Android out there? Which company will take the lead and develop the infrastructure needed to seriously compete. Who is going to work with the record companies, book publishers, movie studios etc. Apple is about to release their cloud music with real contracts from the music studios, Amazon released their version with no contracts.

If this were a Windows OS I could see MS taking the lead, they have the resources and will power, to develop the infrastructure. Google just wants to release the OS, Amazon has no control over it, and each hardware maker is worried about their own sales, especially since few are actually making any profit in the market.

If you want to talk phones, Apple developed the iPhone, everyone wanted one it was new, it was cool or what ever descriptors you choose. They had an exclusive contract in the US with AT&T. That left a serious hole for Android to fill. Had the iPhone been released on all carriers at the same time, I think Android would be nothing more than a footnote of another failed OS in the history books. There will always be tweakers, who complain about iOS not being open, but for the bulk of the user base it works exactly as planned. Do you develop a product to the 5% who want to tweak, or the 95% who just want it to work and do not care to tweak. I would develop to the 95%, much more profitable.

As was said earlier in this thread, when reviewers start comparing Apple devices to the competition, rather than comparing the competition to Apple devices you will have a product killer.

Lets talk about the iMac, again who pushed Apple to this solution, no one, now there a lots of windows companies that make similar devices.

Apple is not one to be pushed, if they were they would have opened there licenses years ago and followed the IBM/MS Dos model. Apple figured out what works best for them and their preferred demographic. There will always be those who are jealous and talk about the next device killer.

Next year after Apple releases the next revolutionary computing device everyone will be talking up the competition and how they will kill the device, and how it will push Apple. Historically they have not been pushed, they march to their own drum, they have their own band. You have a choice to like them or leave them. They have a solid reputation for developing and manufacturing innovative, creative, user friendly and quality devices. They develop products people want, and companies want to copy.

iOS is pushing Android not the othe way around. The only reason Android exist is because of iOS.

Someone said it best in another thread, Google developed Andriod, their customers are not the Android users, but rather the ad companies. The Android user base is their product. They sell all of you. With iOS device I am the customer, Apple wants me to be happy not the ad companies. This is why they invest so heavily in the infrastructure. Why they check each and every app so carefully before posting to the App Store.
 
I think we will know the Asus has killed the iPad, if when the next big tablet comes out it is compared to the Asus and not the iPad.
If the next big tablet that comes out is referred to as an Asus Transformer killer, and not an iPad killer, I will agree with the OP's opinion. It won't though, they'll call it an iPad killer.

That's a joke right?
 
iPad killer? Just like all those countless iPhone killers? Nice try :D

Amen. We've been hearing about THOSE since 2007. A friend put one of the "iPhone Killers" next to my iPhone one day to show me how far superior his was...until he saw them side-by-side. :D THAT quieted him down.
 
That's funny I bought the ASUS day before yesterday and sold it Yesterday, and typing this on my iPad 2 enough said :)

Could not print with it.
Choppy video
keyboard lag in typing
Browser lack big time.

Hey it will get better but who has the time.
 
Figures, like a fanboy to knock something before they try it ;)

Seriously Apple has to step up their iOS, compared to Android honeycomb its feels like OS9 compared to OSX.

How many ipads have been sold? That's how many people disagree with you.

This is a tech forum so it is to be expected that people here want loads of features, but the majority of ipad users out there just want something they can turn on, and do stuff, without having to worry about a single other thing. My Nan, who has never used a computer, can use and isn't scared away by an ipad. That fact alone is going to sell more units than SD card slots, tegra, 1080 etc
 
How many ipads have been sold? That's how many people disagree with you.

This is a tech forum so it is to be expected that people here want loads of features, but the majority of ipad users out there just want something they can turn on, and do stuff, without having to worry about a single other thing. My Nan, who has never used a computer, can use and isn't scared away by an ipad. That fact alone is going to sell more units than SD card slots, tegra, 1080 etc

-4. IVe bought 4 ipads and 3 android devices. You dont speak for ipad users, only yourself
 
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