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Even though most people will not be wanting to hold up the big, clip-board sized tablet to take a picture, I agree that the camera should be at least 3 megapixels. In Facetime, if you switch from the front facing camera to the back one, it would be like looking at a picture, and then looking at abstract art (you can't really tell what it is).
 
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For those speculating about consumers being turned off by specs, I have never once had someone ask me how much ram the iPad has or what resolution it's screen is. This is a device that sells because of the user interaction at the demo table.

Also regarding the iPod touch having a 1mp camera despite being a portable device: the iPod touch is less than half the price of the iPhone.

As far as FaceTime goes, as explained pretty well above, you're actually more likely to get clear video from a 1mp sensor with larger pixel sites than a 3mp sensor crammed into the same physical space. Having a 3mp sensor won't magically let you send 3mp video over FaceTime.
 
No. I would not. For many reasons. Since you don't seem to be a photography expert in this case I'll clarify.

1. Since a 3 megapixel image is resized to do video chat. As previously stated 720p video is less than 1 megapixel. 1280x720 = 921600 pixels. Even 1080p is ~2 million pixels.
1a. Any Larger image would be resized to fit into these stream sizes. Resizing images is processor and time consuming, and will generate artifacts.
1b. Streaming 720p video let alone 1080p is straining internet connections, and actually even wireless networks themselves. Which I assure you the ipad 2 is going to be a wireless device, and not likely to have a gigabit ethernet port to plug in. So until we're much farther along in internet infrastructure, there isn't a use for more megapixels you do not display
1c. Given that facetime uses wireless streaming, the video stream itself undergoes compression which is lossy, and you would lose alot of the detail anyways.

2. Megapixels are a myth perpetuated to market to people who don't understand the very basics of photography. Old film cameras used 35mm film, hopefully most of you remember how big each negative was. That used the entire surface to gather light. And in photography, the amount of light you can use is fundamental. Remember the size of a negative for 35mm, now did you know that the light sensor inside a decent point and shoot camera is as big as the word "like" in this post. And they cram 14 megapixels into that. Each pixel gathers so little light and is so close to the others that it generates alot of noise. The sensors for cell phones, webcams and such are even smaller, probably about the size of the letter "o". Cramming more megapixels into that does not get you sharper pictures, just more noise. If you take a look even many of the professional cameras don't sport that many megapixels, and the sensor size is much bigger, say a large postage stamp. So each pixel in one of those cameras is much larger than a pixel in the cell phone, can gather more light and produce much better images. Even the prosumer point and shoots, ie Canon S95, G12, Panasonic LX-5 etc are only 10 megapixels but boast larger sensor sizes than ordinary point and shoots. And I will say the resulting pictures are much better, due to better optics and much larger light gathering capacity per pixel. In a device like an ipad, where you want it thin, and more than likely to video chat, a lower resolution sensor that fits the stream sizes will generate a better picture, especially in varying degrees of lighting.

3. Anyone who would shoot a video with an ipad on any consistent basis probably should have their head checked lol. You're far better off with almost anything else that's a real camera.

Wiki article on sensor sizes for more info

Stop it, you're making too much sense for this thread! The people who are complaining about megapixels (which is a clear marketing ploy) are those same people who refuse to buy Apple products because "they're all marketing". Oh, the irony!
 

For those speculating about consumers being turned off by specs, I have never once had someone ask me how much ram the iPad has or what resolution it's screen is. This is a device that sells because of the user interaction at the demo table.


Exactly. No one asks for the specifications of Apple products and Apple glosses over those things as well. As I previously stated, Apple just states things like "retina displays", "dual cameras", etc. The only item Apple outright tells people is how much storage something has because to the average joe, that's all they care about!
 
Providing 512MB ram over 256MB wouldn't bring down profit too much. Seriously.

What's "too much"? Even if it's as little as a $1 difference...when you sell 10 Million or however many devices, that $1 adds up quick.
 
Just so I understand. We have people in this forum who think megapixels on things are stupid, and the iphone4 should also have a 1 mp camera unit fitted. Is that right?
 
Yeah, like swimming pools are bathtubs aimed at adults. Nonsense.

The bathtubs vs swimming pools doesn't really fly. They are different and have different functionality. Tub is for cleaning, unless you're crazy rich your tub isn't going to be big enough to swim in, even for a kid, pool is for swimming but I guess you could grab some soap and water and wash up for it.

The iPad and iPod Touch functionality is to consume media and to my knowledge what can be done on one can be done on the other.

As for the cameras mp. I can see both sides of the coin.
 
The bathtubs vs swimming pools doesn't really fly. They are different and have different functionality. Tub is for cleaning, unless you're crazy rich your tub isn't going to be big enough to swim in, even for a kid, pool is for swimming but I guess you could grab some soap and water and wash up for it.

The iPad and iPod Touch functionality is to consume media and to my knowledge what can be done on one can be done on the other.

I disagree. You can wash in both, but you can have a flotilla of mermaids help soap your back in a swimming pool.
 
Just so I understand. We have people in this forum who think megapixels on things are stupid, and the iphone4 should also have a 1 mp camera unit fitted. Is that right?

If it's only for video (which some speculation appears to point to) then 1MP is enough.
 
I am not sure what everyone is so unhappy about and what is the need of F word for in the title.

1. iPad 2 is not out. You are just speculating over nothing.
2. Even if it has 1 mp camera, then so what? If it's only for video chat, it's not that big of deal. You would carry a phone always anyways.
3. All people care about are specs. This isn't the company that cares about specs.

4. This thread is very pointless and useless. Op complains over something that is not that big of deal. iPad won't replace any of my digital camera.

End of thread.
 
I think some people here are missing the point of the iPad cameras. (including the OP)

a. If you want high quality photos, buy yourself a proper digital camera. Apple has no obligations to cater for the camera market. If they were, they'd make cameras.

b. You can't take photos properly with a 10" device.

c. Think how Apple are pushing facetime. It'll be more for that so people can show images from behind the iPad rather than turning it around.

d. Anyone expecting a 5MP+ camera in the iPad (like the double res screen) is in lah-lah land. Better to expect little and wait for the surprises Apple will bring to the iPad 2. You won't be as disappointed.

hmmm.... ???

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Just so I understand. We have people in this forum who think megapixels on things are stupid, and the iphone4 should also have a 1 mp camera unit fitted. Is that right?

No, because the iPhone is small enough to be a good portable camera. I wouldn't want a 12mp camera though as some others have said in this thread. 5mp is lower than a lot of cameras and camera phones, and that was done intentionally. Apple even talked about sensor size vs megapixels when announcing it. The lens (and I assume sensor) on the iPhone 4 are really big compared to the previous iPhones or the iPod touch.

It's not that megapixels are bad, but they aren't always better. If the iPhone 4 had a 12mp sensor the photos it took would be noisy and it probably wouldn't do well at all except in bright light.
 
my flipphone has a 3.2 megapixel camera and the pictures are ghetto tastic.useful if your girlfriend flashes you and you need it in a pinch otherwise no point whatsoever. frigging 1 megapixel is a joke. gotto squeeze out that extra 4 cents from the 2 megapixel upgrade. it comes down to actually being worth the development costs of even having it. if your going to invest in it like that put at least 3.2 to make it worth it. otherwise your adding something completely pointless for the the amount of developer research you put into it.
 
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If you were planning on snapping pictures from iPad, then god.. you are sad.

Apple is trying to maximize the profits and they know you won't be using camera much other than facetime. For video chat, I don't see why u need 5 megapixel camera.

There is always an option to wait for next ipad or go for another company's tablet. Just leave and go quietly.
 
Having trouble wading through those sarcastic posts!

But yea, 1mp is very weak indeed. Nobody expects super great quality photos, but 1mp is a piss take. For such a large and expensive device I would have expected a nice quality, 4mp camera.
 
I don't mind the pixel count but I really hoped Apple would put a bigger camera with autofocus like the one in the iPhone 4. With the iPod Touch you could at least argue the device was too thin for the bigger sensor but the iPad probably will be thick enough to accommodate the iPhone 4 camera sensor. The pixel count doesn't matter much but the sensor size and the lack of autofocus certainly do.
 
I love how people are angry about this, as if the iPad was the ideal camera device..... I mean crap, look at it's form factor. I'd much rather use a phone, or better yet a real camera, any day over an iPad

Anyone who cares or knows just about anything about photography realizes how pointless this is anyways-- the only people complaining are the ones who are ignorant and buy into the mega-pixel myth, and otherwise don't own any real cameras.
 
Apart from FanBois who will defend anything Apple do till the death.

Most posters seem to be saying, generally the same thing:

Whether you may feel a rear camera is a good or a bad idea, if you are going to fit one, at least fit one of reasonable quality.

That's the overall feeling I'm getting from this and other forums.

Either don't do it, or if you are, at least do it reasonably well. I think I'd agree with that general viewpoint also.
 
Whether you may feel a rear camera is a good or a bad idea, if you are going to fit one, at least fit one of reasonable quality.

But, as others have been pointing out, if the purpose of the camera is strictly for video then the quality is more than reasonable.
 
It can still do 720p video recording.

The 3.5 MP camera of the 3GS records 0.3 MP video.
The 5.0 MP camera of the iP4 records 1 MP video.
The 1.0 MP camera of the iPad records __ MP video.

See where I'm going with this...
 
The 3.5 MP camera of the 3GS records 0.3 MP video.
The 5.0 MP camera of the iP4 records 1 MP video.
The 1.0 MP camera of the iPad records __ MP video.

See where I'm going with this...

Those numbers show correlation, but the megapixel count doesn't necessarily have to do with video performance.

A better explanation would be that the iPhone 4 finally had the horsepower to handle 720p video whereas the 3GS didn't.
 
The 3.5 MP camera of the 3GS records 0.3 MP video.
The 5.0 MP camera of the iP4 records 1 MP video.
The 1.0 MP camera of the iPod Touch records 1 MP video.
The 1.0 MP camera of the iPad records __ MP video.

See where I'm going with this...

Added one for you. My bet is that if the camera is actually 1 MP (which is still just a rumor) it will record video at the same resolution as the 1 MP camera in the iPod touch.
 
The 3.5 MP camera of the 3GS records 0.3 MP video.
The 5.0 MP camera of the iP4 records 1 MP video.
The 1.0 MP camera of the iPad records __ MP video.

See where I'm going with this...

Nope.

The 1.0 MP camera on iPod touch does 1.0 MP video

You = Fail
 
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