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Steve Jobs and Apple have said in interview many times, they wish to pick technologies that are on the up and back them, also to select items for the best user experience for their customers.

Obviously, they feel that dual camera's that can offer video calling are the future for people to communicate to each other and and that a 1mp camera unit is the best item they could select from to make this a reality.

It's not what I personally want, but it's obviously what Apple thinks the majority of it's main steam customers want.
 
When the iPad was released there wasn't any competition. Now, however, there is.

Well to be honest, sadly no still. I have tried the competition, heck I own an android phone also. I can tell you that it's still not a good comparison. Also when I walk into subways in new york, I see 3 things. Kindles, Nooks, and ipads. I have yet to see 1 person with an android tablet of any sort, even the nook color.

It might take a while, and I would love to have some competition to apple, if nothing just to drive apple to produce more features that would be useful (ie like wifi hotspot capability into iphone 4 on verizon, since all the android phones had it and it's damn useful)

I would love to have a great camera on my ipad 2, and give my ipad 1 to my parents lol, but realisticaly the technology is only there to provide us with an approximately iphone 4 quality camera, and still keep it to how we would like in terms of thinness, weight, batterylife. As for a decision to use a higher quality 1 mp camera, while I'd obviously like higher specs, it does make sense from their perspective.

Here's to hoping for more decent competition to drive apple to release products with better capabilities (not just specs)
 
Who cares honestly? I don't even want a camera on the back. I will never want to take a picture with my iPad. And that's not just me, anyone with a brain cell or two would agree. FaceTime camera yes, but a rear facing camera on this thing? Get ****in' real.
 
When the iPad was released there wasn't any competition. Now, however, there is.

There is no competition. I can't think of one other product. I'm sure I've seen ads for them and stuff, but I still can't think of names and brands or anything. I see at least one person in public everyday with an iPad, but I don't see and Droid anythings or Microsoft whatevers in everyone's hands.
 
Who cares honestly? I don't even want a camera on the back. I will never want to take a picture with my iPad. And that's not just me, anyone with a brain cell or two would agree. FaceTime camera yes, but a rear facing camera on this thing? Get ****in' real.

Who cares honestly? I don't even want a camera on the front. I will never want to make a video call with my iPad. And that's not just me, anyone with a brain cell or two would agree. Rear facing camera yes, but a front facing camera on this thing? Get ****in' real.

You see what I did there?

You posted your views about what you want to do with "YOUR" iPad
I posted my views about what I want to do with "MY" iPad

Are your personal needs more important than mine, or am my personal needs more important than yours?
 
Who cares honestly? I don't even want a camera on the back. I will never want to take a picture with my iPad. And that's not just me, anyone with a brain cell or two would agree. FaceTime camera yes, but a rear facing camera on this thing? Get ****in' real.
One of the scenarios:
yo, imagine you sittin in starbux, facetiming with your gf and boom! lady gaga enters the starbux and your gf goes 'pics or it never happened'. boom! you tap on the 'switch cameras' button and boom! 100% proof. yo, now does you understand how important rear cam is.
;)
 
One of the scenarios:

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Yep, and with a 1mp camera with a decent sized sensor you could take fabulous 720p video of Lady Gaga. :D Since Facetime doesn't transmit higher than VGA anyway you should be just fine. :)
 
As a professional photographer.... Let me say..shame on you Apple. :eek:

Edit, i know that megapixels do not make the lens.. but jeeze.. 1mp?

I find it funny that a supposedly "professional photographer" is interested in using his iPad as a camera in the first place. If you're not, then don't bring up your job.
 
I find it funny that a supposedly "professional photographer" is interested in using his iPad as a camera in the first place. If you're not, then don't bring up your job.

Yeah. I missed that one. That has to be the most ridiculous thing in this thread.

Heck even half interested amateurs have DSLRs and a high quality pocket camera for when the DSLR is too big to carry.

There is simply no call for someone with even a passing interest in photographer to want to use an iPad as a camera.

I don't even consider myself a photographer and I have had decent digital cameras since the Nikon 950 in 1999.
 
yo, imagine you sittin in starbux, facetiming with your gf and boom! lady gaga enters the starbux and your gf goes 'pics or it never happened'. boom! you tap on the 'switch cameras' button and boom! 100% proof. yo, now does you understand how important rear cam is.

yo, imagine you sittin in starbux, facetiming with your gf and boom! lady gaga enters the starbux and your gf goes 'omg is she on your list?'. boom! you pull out your list of celebrities you can sleep with where she can't get mad and boom! 100% chance of banging laday gaga. yo, now does you understand how important a list of celebrities you can sleep with it is?
 
Are you really trying to say that the ability to compose a shot on a 10" screen would be revolutionary? How is it much different than composing on something smaller?

The sooner you realize that Apple is not in the camera business the better. For someone that apparently teaches photography, I would expect you to extol the virtues of shooting with a real dedicated camera rather than looking for some gimmicky add on to some swiss army like electronic device.

Absolutely...way different. If he were still alive, I would say, "Ansel Adams would say it makes a difference". One of my first DSLRs was a Nikon D100, wtih a little tiny screen. I recently re-bought a D70 IR (converted to IR) and am amazed at how small the screen is after getting used to the newer generation 3" screens. Of course composing on a 10" screen will be amazing. Of course being able to shoot pictures on it and instantly being able to review them on a 10" screen will be amazing!

And Apple could once again be a camera maker. There were once...when they made The Apple Quick Take, which I owned a couple of versions of, including sending in one model for an upgrade, etc. Can't imagine how much money I threw at Apple's early digital cameras. This was back in 1995 or so, and we used it to produce about 50% of a year book. For the time, it was pretty amazing. It was certainly one of the first consumer digital cameras. And it was Apple! Right along with the Newton...that in some ways, is still better than the iPad...mainly because Apple didn't have it locked down to the point that you can't tweak it with software like you want, with like the awesome Standalone Software, etc.

And what the heck is wrong with a Swiss Army Knife of technology???? I am DYING for a ONE TOOL DOES IT ALL device. We aren't far from it, and we have sure come a long way. Look at the cell phone. Large, small, now large again, because people were tired of carrying multiple devices.

How so? If a camera was so critical for iPad sales, how did they manage to sell so many already?

Lack of options. And, the fact that the iPad is the coolest device since the Newton. No doubt about that. But it would have been WAY cooler with a camera. Nobody can deny that. And frankly, I don't understand why this is such a divisive debate. I have never seen such a hotly contested feature! You would think we were asking to put square tires on cars or something. The document scanning capability of an iPad to import documents to tweak, OCR, insert in brochures, etc. is enough of a reason to give the iPad a decent camera. Forget ALL of the other photographic features...document scanning is the ONE reason Apple HAS to give it a better camera. The iTouch 4 can't even use a bar code reader...or scan receipts, etc. The camera isn't just low res, it doesn't close focus, or really serve any useful purpose other than a gimmick capture of where you might have visited.

I find it funny that a supposedly "professional photographer" is interested in using his iPad as a camera in the first place. If you're not, then don't bring up your job.

Although directed at another professional shooter, anybody who doesn't understand why a photographer wants a good camera on the iPad just doesn't understand. It's kind of like asking me to understand why put good gas in my car. I am sure if I was a mechanic, I might understand that regular unleaded isn't so great for the engine. Maybe not such a great analogy, but I shoot 50k plus images a year, easy. And I shoot on ALL kinds and models of cameras. I am not going to NOT shoot with the DSLRs any more. I just want the iPad that is with me a LOT of the time to be able to take decent pictures.

Any good photographer will agree...it's not about the camera...its about the photographer. I can take good pictures with any camera. And its more about having a camera WITH you. The best DSLR on the planet is useless if you leave it at home in a bag because it was too big to bring on the trip. Which is one of the reasons I have so many cameras...all kinds of different sizes. The iPad would just another camera to fill a certain niche. But don't forget, I just want the iPad to have a GREAT document camera. Everything else would be icing on the cake.

You are odd if you'd use a rear facing camera on your iPad. Just odd.

Again, anybody who doesn't understand the need for a rf camera on the iPad, just simply doesn't understand.

Heck even half interested amateurs have DSLRs and a high quality pocket camera for when the DSLR is too big to carry.

There is simply no call for someone with even a passing interest in photographer to want to use an iPad as a camera.

Your missing the point. NO SERIOUS photographer is suggesting that this would be their only camera. That is ridiculous. We are just saying we want at least iP4s camera.

Another person commented about the success of the iT4. Sure, it has been a success. Doesn't mean it doesn't suck...and wont be dusted by Apples next model of the iTouch. But, I guess that is what they are good at doing...suckering people in to the next model when they already have 3 other iPods. I wasn't falling for it. I took my iT4 back as fast as I could. I already have enough low resolution cameras. But, mark my words, the iTouch will have a high res camera in it a few years from now...Apple could have done it now.

I am just saying, once again, if Apple puts anything less than iP4s camera in the iPad2, it will be very frustrating and a REAL disappointment. But then, this is Apple...the same company that downgraded the USB port to keep people from plugging in a memory card reader or keyboard. And broke the screen rotation lock against our will.
 
I can see the logic behind it (if it's true). You're unlikely to use the iPad as a point and shoot. Facetime and augmented reality apps are the main applications and, if the screen resolution is genuinely staying the same, then you don't really need anything more than 1MP.

Still seems pretty ridiculous to give an advantage like this to their competitors given how cheaply they could add a 5MP cam. And it's always nice to have the option to take a decent pic/video, isn't it?

That's Apple, though. Change as little as possible and charge as much as possible :p
 
As a photo/travel blogger who IS interested in having a front facing camera on the next gen iPad simply because when I travel I'd like to be able to pack light and without all of my gear at times and the ability to bang out a quick interview at a coffee shop.

If the next gen iPad ships with the same camera that comes with the current iPod touch I'd be fine with it.

One of my contributors covered a cyclocross event for me and took some video, edited it using iMovie on his iPod touch with cross fade transitions,images and titles and I was shocked at how decent the results were.

Is it the same results that you would get on a canon 7D? Hell no but more than adequate to capture a story, edit it and upload it all in one package.

Here is the result-
http://goodmorninggloucester.wordpress.com/2010/10/03/patrick-ryan-gran-prix-of-gloucester-video/

I was actually shocked when he told me he did this on the fly with his little ones hanging off his shoulders throughout the day using his iPod Touch.

i'm looking forward to being able to edit 720p widescreen video on an iPad when I travel or don't feel like lugging a laptop around along with my camera gear.

I use Reeldirector now on my iPad but only gives you 4:3 editing instead of the 16:9 widescreen format with iMovie.

here is an example of a movie edited with ReelDirector on my iPad-
Winter Lobstering- The Trapper John Hits The Dock Covered In Ice

vs the same footage edited in 16:9 widescreen on a PC-
Winter Lobstering- The Trapper John Hits The Dock Covered In Ice widescreen

Once the next gen iPad comes out I'll be one of those freaks waiting in line (provided they will finally release iMovie for iPad along with the front facing camera)
 
I don't really see the issue with the iPad having only a 1MP camera in the back - Apple will be marketing it as a Facetime camera which won't support a high resolution anyway.

Just to compare, the built-in iSight on most Macs (maybe all now?) is only 1.3MP (1280 x 1024) and iChat only supports 0.3MP (640 x 480) chat and no one actually complains about that. Why would we need a higher MP on the iPad which has a smaller screen?
 
I am not going to NOT shoot with the DSLRs any more. I just want the iPad that is with me a LOT of the time to be able to take decent pictures.

Any good photographer will agree...it's not about the camera...its about the photographer. I can take good pictures with any camera. And its more about having a camera WITH you.

That is so silly on so many levels.

Most serious Photographers keep an always carry pocket camera with them. Suggesting that an iPad fill this role is nuts. Even if they did put in the iP4 camera it would be pathetic compared to a decent compact.

Plus, Who the heck carries an ipad with them everywhere? It weighs a pound and a half and won't fit in a pocket. Your argument fails the common sense test.

The always cameras that serious photogs carry are things like the Panasonic LX1, or Canon S90/S95.

The S90/S95 weighs under 7 ounces, has a gigantic sensor compared to any cellphone camera, has full manual exposure (and shutter priority, aperture priority) control capability, extensive white balance control,full RAW shooting capability, a very sharp 28-105 equiv lens.

What serious photog in his right mind wouldn't have something like a S95 in his pocket and use that instead of an iPad?

Arguing that serious photographers want this, is like arguing that they want better lenses on barbie cameras.
 
Any good photographer will agree...it's not about the camera...its about the photographer.
So why do professional photographers use expensive cameras? Surely some $50 camera is fine, if they're good enough?
 
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