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Wonderful. Hopefully the next version of iPad will be actually worth buying.

A WHOLE bunch of have gotten great use out of v1. Glad you know better than us.
 
Like I said, January, February, March ain't gonna happen!!!!

Apple release their products in accordance with American weather conditions. None of their product releases ever fall on winter. Ever.

Simple.

Your logic is flawed, America has the most diverse climatic system, the weather during "winter" is much different in Rhode Island than in Florida. Spring in New England is also much colder than lets say, New Jersey. I'm not saying you're wrong that products aren't released during winter, but weather might not have anything to do with it. It could also be part of their fiscal year plan, I'm not a finance major, but I wouldn't think it to be wise to blow your load all in your first quarter, or last quarter.
 
I think Apple can get away with just changing the port on the charger from USB to Micro-USB for use with the iPhone. I'm not sure they have to change anything with the iPad because it is not a mobile phone.

The plug on the end of the charging cable is what matters. The port on the charger is irrelevant and doesn't even need to be there. The charging cable could be permanently attached to the charger and still meet the requirements as long as the end of the cable had a male micro usb plug on it.

Since USB to micro USB cables are readily available, Apple basically meets the standard already. As I understand it, the goal of the legislation is to reduce charger waste. Apple's current charger can charge any micro usb equipped phone provided that a usb to micro usb cable is available, so it meets that goal.

Apple could choose to supply a standard usb to micro usb cable and a dock connector adapter featuring a female micro usb port in place of the current USB to dock connector cable if they wanted to though. Basically it would look the same as the current cable Apple uses at first glance, but the dock connector would be removable to reveal a micro usb plug on the cable.
 
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slinky0390 said:
Like I said, January, February, March ain't gonna happen!!!!

Apple release their products in accordance with American weather conditions. None of their product releases ever fall on winter. Ever.

Simple.

Your logic is flawed, America has the most diverse climatic system, the weather during "winter" is much different in Rhode Island than in Florida. Spring in New England is also much colder than lets say, New Jersey. I'm not saying you're wrong that products aren't released during winter, but weather might not have anything to do with it. It could also be part of their fiscal year plan, I'm not a finance major, but I wouldn't think it to be wise to blow your load all in your first quarter, or last quarter.

Plus, Apple has released the iPad and iPhone 4 in many different countries at different times of the year. Long lines also form in these countries. And, in many of these countries, it is friggin cold out. For example, the iPad was just released in some Scandinavian countries just this month.
 
OMG, I'm talking about major releases that generate lines of hundreds of people. Hello!

They are solely iPhone and iPad! Duh!

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

sounds like you're backpedaling from your original statements full speed. no wonder they were quite dumb.........
 
Apple could choose to supply a standard usb to micro usb cable and a dock connector adapter featuring a female micro usb port in place of the current USB to dock connector cable if they wanted to though. Basically it would look the same as the current cable Apple uses at first glance, but the dock connector would be removable to reveal a micro usb plug on the cable.

I like it, it sounds like a good fix.

I think we can agree that there's no need for a USB port on the actual device like a lot of people on here are stating as fact. It's all about the charger. :)
 
Like I said, January, February, March ain't gonna happen!!!!

Apple release their products in accordance with American weather conditions. None of their product releases ever fall on winter. Ever.

Simple.

What? (I know, you're joking but) Since when Apple don't release new (read: mostly updated) products in fall or winter?
Since last year? :confused:

And why would they release products in accordance with American weather conditions? So the delivery trucks can deliver in time? (and March count as a winter month at your place?) :confused:
 
Does it really matter?

Does all this really matter?

It's safe to assume Microsoft is not sitting still in this area and I'm sure we'll see a significant update from them that will make the iPad 2.0 and any Android device from 2011 look like a joke.

Too bad for Microsoft it will be in 2015! LOL! :p
 
end of february means this is the day the first units will be produced. they will not start selling them until they have produced shiploads of ipads and shipped them to US. don't expect these things to hit the stores before april.

BINGO! something this obvious should have been included in the original article.
 
Er... winter ends on/around March 20th. Hello. :rolleyes:

So, your place must be weird. Not mine.

Right about the date but really, if you go with the "weather conditions" here it's:

Winter: December, January, February
Spring: March, April, May
Summer: June, July, August
Fall: September, October, November
;)
 
Actually a mini-USB socket is a absolute given as the European Union mandated it as the standard recharging method on all cell phones. Of course just because the connector is there doesn't indicate USB functionality.

It is my understanding that a dock connector at one end and a usb connector at the other is acceptable. The ipad is already in compliance.
 
I like it, it sounds like a good fix.

I think we can agree that there's no need for a USB port on the actual device like a lot of people on here are stating as fact. It's all about the charger. :)

There might not be any need, but Apple has been opening up the USB dongle for more than camera functions. Most notably, it is now officially accessable to music apps to connect to USB MIDI devices (as of 4.2).
 
Like you say.....mandated on all cell phones. And the iPad is NOT a cell phone. Even if it has 3G it still does not make phone calls.

Actually, that is this only thing missing on 2.0 that I want: the ability to have it act like my iPhone. I'd GLADLY wear headphone and carry the iPad around and use it like my iPhone....I'd LOVE that.

I use my iPhone for phone calls and email/surfing. The only problem with the latter two is the size of the screen. iPad to the rescue! But wait, no phone ability.....bzzzzzzz. No sale. :( Someone has to have an ap that will VIOP-forward to/from your cell.....???
 
There might not be any need, but Apple has been opening up the USB dongle for more than camera functions. Most notably, it is now officially accessable to music apps to connect to USB MIDI devices (as of 4.2).

I'm not saying it's not a good idea to add a USB port to the iPad, just that Apple are not being forced to add it by the evil European Union. ;)
 
IMO USB and USB mini look very ugly.

ok... you're complaining about the aesthetic appearance of USB PORTS?!?!?

"oh, how i HATE that 3mm slit in the side of my ipad! it's LITERALLY the size of a grain of rice! how dare they!"

Most. Ridiculous. Complaint. EVER.
 
Right. Than they will sit, gartering dust in the warehouse for three months before being sold. ;)

I say, either the storie is bogus or they will ship Feb/March.
Lol. 12 year olds trying to figure out how products are produced.
 
It is my understanding that a dock connector at one end and a usb connector at the other is acceptable. The ipad is already in compliance.

Yup. From the updated document (12 Jan 2010):
(search for: TECHNICAL ANNEX TO MOU REGARDING THE HARMONISATION OF A CHARGING CAPABILITY FOR MOBILE PHONES), it's the first PDF returned by Google.

1 - "The cable assembly shall terminate in a Micro-B plug. The plug shall meet the USB- IF Connector Test Requirements (http://www.usb.org/developers/compliance/connectors/), shall be compliant to the Micro-USB Cables and Connectors Specification, Rev 1.01 (Micro-USB 1.01), and shall be rated to meet all electrical specifications."


2 - "An EPS provided with a detachable cable shall be equipped with a USB Standard-A receptacle. Standard detachable cable assembly, supplied for use with the EPS, shall have Standard-A and Micro-B plugs and meet the USB-IF Cable Assembly Test Requirements for Compliant Usage of Connectors and Cables in Micro-USB 1.01. (http://www.usb.org/developers/compliance/cable/).”"

3 - "Above requirement also applies to detachable cables used as adaptor i.e. where the Micro-B is replaced by a proprietary plug"


(numbers and paragraph breaks added by me)

Paragraph 1 is the part that everyone seems to know about. If your power supply has a permanently attached cable, (e.g., Nokia / Sony barrel connectors, Motorola blade connectors, etc.), you need to switch it to a Micro-B plug.

Paragraph 2 is where it gets interesting. If the power supply has a removable cable (like the Apple chargers), it needs to connect the cable via a USB-A (the flat rectangular "host" socket you see on computers) (like the Apple chargers already do)

And Paragraph 3 is where it's codified that Apple is ALREADY in compliance. If you have a proprietary connector (i.e., the dock connector), you only need to have the "head" end of the cable terminate in a USB-A plug (again, like Apple already does).

Not a single thing needs to change. At all.

Even if this was, in any way, a binding document / agreement. Which it isn't.

And even if the iPad was included in the agreement. Which it isn't. :)

Can we PLEASE put the "USB is coming because of the EU" comments to rest?

By the way, even if it was coming, it's the DEVICE end of the cable that it would be getting. USB is asymmetrical. You'd never be able to connect anything TO the iPad. Only connect the iPad TO something.

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Like I said, January, February, March ain't gonna happen!!!!

Apple release their products in accordance with American weather conditions. None of their product releases ever fall on winter. Ever.

Simple.

It's hilarious how wrong your are. They've released tons of models/updates in Jan/Feb/Mar.

The first Intel mac (the newly named MacBook Pro) was a January product.
 
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