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iPad 2 with support for Adobe Flash, is it possible?

Should iPad 2 support Adobe Flash?

  • Yes

    Votes: 69 31.4%

  • No

    Votes: 151 68.6%
  • Total voters
    220
First, I'm an Android Nexus One user, have never had an iPhone, etc..

I've decided to get an iPad two over an Android tablet, mainly because I want something built nice. The Android tablets all feel cheap to me.

The ONLY thing giving me pause is lack of native Flash support. I use it all the time on my Nexus One. just as an example: I hang out at a Dallas Cowboys message board, and folks there are always posting embedded videos of different plays, press conferences, etc.. It's nice to be able to access that content. Before Flash came to Android, it would always say I needed a flash player to view it. I can surf straight to CNN's site and watch any videos I want to. It really has changed the way i use my phone.

The reason i guess that I am willing to try the iPad is because I figure the apps on iPad are more robust and that maybe I can watch these same videos in the apps for iPad(CNN etc..) but I'll still be screwed for some content such as that Dallas site because they have no iPad/iPhone app.

It would just be nice to know I can access ANY videos at ANY site on the internet. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm going to WALK into an Apple store and buy an iPad 2....but Flash support would make me RUN in to buy it.:D

I used Skyfire before Flash came to Android and it works okay...but nothing like full native Flash support. I mean sure Flash uses battery....streaming video tends to do that;), but I choose when to use it and when not to and it has never caused me any problems and given me the full internet on my mobile device.

Anyway like I said I'm willing to try things Apple's way, but I sure wish iPad 2 would come with Flash......it'a really the ONLY thing I think it will be missing for me...well that and I wish it would come with Google Maps with built in Google Navigation..:)...that would be KICK ASS :D Sure wish Apple and Google would start playing nice with each other..and adobe too :)
 
FYI: Skyfire only works with Videos. It isn't the same thing and it is kind of annoying to wait for it to process the video rather than just waiting a shorter time to buffer the video.

I have no opinion on the flash issue. I see both sides. I am just pointing out that using Skyfire does NOT mean you have full access to flash.
 
paulrbeers said:
I have no opinion on the flash issue. I see both sides. I am just pointing out that using Skyfire does NOT mean you have full access to flash.
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Not sure if you were talking to me but yeah I never said Skyfire does give you full access to Flash...far from it in fact. It did come in handy though before Android adopted full Flash. The problem is that sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Cannot count how many times I would see a Cowboys embedded video, launch the video in Skyfire and get a failure to play message.

But like I said, between Skyfire, in app videos, I'm hoping to get by without Flash. I wish iPad 2 would come out because I just watched some of the Xoom previews and I'm getting excited about it too.:D If the Xoom wifo only version were to come with a GPS chip inside I might go that way instead. :D

I bet the Xoom feels cheap in the hands tho.
 
The whole "what's the case made from, yuk it's plastic" seems a total not issue for me.
I guess many thousands of iPad users have their iPad in an Apple or other case, and once in the Apple case, and I guess many other cases, you have no idea what the back of the device is made from. It's in plastic protective case.

For me it's what's happening in the screen that's the No.1 priority.
No, of course, I don't want it to be bendy and flexible but I'd select a great product in a nice plastic case over a poorer product in a high quality metal case any day.
 
What happened to your other thread flex? The one where you were put in timeout? Give me a few minutes and I'll go and copy and paste every single page from it on here...
 
i use to hate that ios devices didnt use flash but it seems flash is dying a slow death

only 2 sites i visit on a regular basis still use only flash newyorkjets.com and nfl.com and though it sucks sometimes its not a big deal anymore
 
It won't happen and I wouldn't want Flash. It's sucked on every computer I've used it on.
 
Would I like to see it as a option YES.
Will it ever happen NO.. Even MS doesn't have it on their new WP7 and made it clear they have NO plans on having flash on WP7.. If Adobe keeps it up and they will lose..
 
It will be a cold day in hell before Apple puts flash on the iPad.
I personally don`t miss it on the iPad at all but you should always have to option to run it if you so choose.
I doubt we`d see the 10+ hours battery life if running flash.
HTML5 ftw.
 
Of course it's possible and could work very well.

It just needs Apple and Adobe to act like adults (I won't say who is mostly to blame, as I think we all know) and devote a team of programmers to work together to make it run the best it could on any platform.

But doing so would allow free flash games to run on the iPad so I cannot see it ever being a thing that Apple would want irrespective of how well it could be made to run.
 
Yes flash sucks but it is still a massive part of the internet. Many video players still haven't converted to HTML5. I think the user should be given the option on using it or not.
 
I too stumble upon websites that have flash content which I want to watch on my iPad. It is certainly a bad situation for the consumers and shows that Apple and Adobe have to work something out.
On one hand I understand Apples opinion about flash, but on the other hand Apple should also recognise that Flash still plays an important role in the Internet and should provide support for it.
 
I answered "Yes" because they should but they won't.

Your topic and poll questions are not the same.
 
eye said:
I haven been to a site that uses flash since like 2005. Besides porn sites, but it's too hard to hold the iPad up with one hand so that doesn't matter.
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I watch too much plenty to be buying media devices that don't allow me to watch it. No ipad for me, atleast not yet :D
 
Here's a little insight into what Flash means to the man (or woman) on the street:

The other day my wife (who has been using her 3G iPad daily since the first day it came out) asked me what Flash was and why a certain website wasn't working on her iPad. It's been 9 months+ since she's had the thing and this is the first time she's asked (or at least noticed). My wife, and the countless millions of users like her don't really care about Flash.
 
poloponies said:
Here's a little insight into what Flash means to the man (or woman) on the street:

The other day my wife (who has been using her 3G iPad daily since the first day it came out) asked me what Flash was and why a certain website wasn't working on her iPad. It's been 9 months+ since she's had the thing and this is the first time she's asked (or at least noticed). My wife, and the countless millions of users like her don't really care about Flash.
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She's lucky then.

On the other hand there will be people who have no idea what Flash is, and wonder why many of the web sites they normally visit have areas on them that can't be seen.

You bring up a silly argument really, it would be like me saying, well I bought the car and it was not till someone told me 9 months later that it did not have a Radio only a CD player, but then I never listen the the radio anyway, only music CD's.

My neighbour isn't into music at all, and the only thing he listens to is radio phone in's and chat shows as he finds them more interesting than music. And he was really upset that his car did not come with a radio unit. He noticed it from the 1st day he had it.

That's the point. Just because one person does not use something, does not mean the person next to them does not either.
 
Piggie said:
She's lucky then.

On the other hand there will be people who have no idea what Flash is, and wonder why many of the web sites they normally visit have areas on them that can't be seen.

You bring up a silly argument really, it would be like me saying, well I bought the car and it was not till someone told me 9 months later that it did not have a Radio only a CD player, but then I never listen the the radio anyway, only music CD's.

My neighbour isn't into music at all, and the only thing he listens to is radio phone in's and chat shows as he finds them more interesting than music. And he was really upset that his car did not come with a radio unit. He noticed it from the 1st day he had it.

That's the point. Just because one person does not use something, does not mean the person next to them does not either.
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You are missing the point, which is that for every iPad owner outraged by the omission of Flash there are probably 99 (and more likely 999) for whom it's a big nothing. In your analogy, it's not a radio that's missing, it's a cassette player. Yes, some people will find it inconvenient not to have a cassette player. For many, many others, it's just not an issue.
 
poloponies said:
You are missing the point, which is that for every iPad owner outraged by the omission of Flash there are probably 99 (and more likely 999) for whom it's a big nothing. In your analogy, it's not a radio that's missing, it's a cassette player. Yes, some people will find it inconvenient not to have a cassette player. For many, many others, it's just not an issue.
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But you are just making those numbers up.

In the UK.

Sky news uses Flash on its site

BBC News uses Flash on it's site

ITV News uses Flash on it's site

Channel 4 News uses Flash on it's site

Most of the main UK National newspapers also use Flash for video on their sites.

None of this has changed in the last year.

It's not mine or your Fault that Apple chooses not to work with Adobe.
 
Piggie said:
But you are just making those numbers up.

In the UK.

Sky news uses Flash on its site

BBC News uses Flash on it's site

ITV News uses Flash on it's site

Channel 4 News uses Flash on it's site

Most of the main UK National newspapers also use Flash for video on their sites.

None of this has changed in the last year.

It's not mine or your Fault that Apple chooses not to work with Adobe.
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It's also not mine or your Fault that any of those sites choose to work with Flash.
 
poloponies said:
You are missing the point, which is that for every iPad owner outraged by the omission of Flash there are probably 99 (and more likely 999) for whom it's a big nothing. In your analogy, it's not a radio that's missing, it's a cassette player. Yes, some people will find it inconvenient not to have a cassette player. For many, many others, it's just not an issue.
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Yes.. more useless made-up stats for someone trying to solidify their silly point of view. Where did you find 1000 people to run your 1 out of 999 test on? Thought so.

Choice. There I said it. Who gives a crap if you'll never use Flash. Who gives a crap if your neighbor does? What's wrong with giving the user that option? God forbid you hit a Flash site, because we all know there aren't many out there *sarcastic*, wouldn't it be at least convenient to have it? All douchey fanboy crap aside.. wouldn't it?

Ok, so it *may* drain the battery faster than if you didn't use it, but again, that's a CHOICE. No one has proven it will drain an ipad battery fast, because it's not on the ipad. Besides, there are tons of other apps that can secretly drain your battery. Yeah yeah.. don't go mumbling like you don't know what I'm talking about. There are other apps and games which can drain your battery quicker than just flipping through your favorite mac sites or personal porn collection of Steve Jobs in his starbucks approved turtlenecks.

I'd hazard a guess that some of the negativity in this thread is directly related to the ratio/level of fanboy who staunchly supports anything the grand wizard of magical unicorns, Steve Jobs says. If Steve Jobs says "No Flash" then the masses must agree. If Steve Jobs says "No official BluRay support, because it's a big bag of hurt", then the masses must agree.

Get past that crap and think for yourself. Don't be a drone or a droid.. wake up.

With all that said, will Apple ever change their mind and support Flash? No. Steve Jobs' ego won't allow it and he'll take that to his grave... which could be some time this year by leaked estimates. Hey it's a rumor site after all.
 
camelsnot said:
Yes.. more useless made-up stats for someone trying to solidify their silly point of view. Where did you find 1000 people to run your 1 out of 999 test on? Thought so.

Choice. There I said it. Who gives a crap if you'll never use Flash. Who gives a crap if your neighbor does? What's wrong with giving the user that option? God forbid you hit a Flash site, because we all know there aren't many out there *sarcastic*, wouldn't it be at least convenient to have it? All douchey fanboy crap aside.. wouldn't it?

Ok, so it *may* drain the battery faster than if you didn't use it, but again, that's a CHOICE. No one has proven it will drain an ipad battery fast, because it's not on the ipad. Besides, there are tons of other apps that can secretly drain your battery. Yeah yeah.. don't go mumbling like you don't know what I'm talking about. There are other apps and games which can drain your battery quicker than just flipping through your favorite mac sites or personal porn collection of Steve Jobs in his starbucks approved turtlenecks.

I'd hazard a guess that some of the negativity in this thread is directly related to the ratio/level of fanboy who staunchly supports anything the grand wizard of magical unicorns, Steve Jobs says. If Steve Jobs says "No Flash" then the masses must agree. If Steve Jobs says "No official BluRay support, because it's a big bag of hurt", then the masses must agree.

Get past that crap and think for yourself. Don't be a drone or a droid.. wake up.

With all that said, will Apple ever change their mind and support Flash? No. Steve Jobs' ego won't allow it and he'll take that to his grave... which could be some time this year by leaked estimates. Hey it's a rumor site after all.
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That's some amazing rant.:eek: I think it hits all the talking points. Stereotyping. Strawmen. Ignoring the tradeoffs. Name calling. Making fun of a serious illness. Anyone that disagrees with you is an idiot.

You did forget to refer to Apple as a religion, so you do miss out on the perfect score.
 
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