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iPad 3 to be Same Price and Same 16GB/32GB/64GB Sizes as iPad 2
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this makes more sense. of course we'd like to see those storage sizes get bumped up to 32/64/128GB, but maybe that'll happen next year?
thats something wich is for sure. if they dont implant it next year i call apple idiots. If they didnt this year, its because the prices where still a tiny bit to expensive.
Right, because Apple has been struggling this past decade at filling its coffers because it couldn't meet the need of the avg. consumer's interests and desires. Meanwhile, plenty of other enterprises flounder trying to copy and one-up ever product Apple introduces.
Here's How I Use my iPad
Here's how I use my iPad (with WiFi and 3G). I have about 100 songs and no films on it and it still isn't enough; not by a long way.
1/ At home. Use Wireless network
2/ At Work. No Wifi and not allowed to connect it physically to any network and no mobile telephone network available. I use it as a stand alone tool alongside my laptops, PCs, Servers etc. Great at meetings, particularly where there is 3G access. Great for presentations, and films to show at work.
3/ Out and about. Despite the fact that I live in the third largest city in the UK, most of the time WiFi is unavailable; as is a 3G connection. So, stand alone iPad again.
4/ Travelling. I travel light with a carry on bag only. With a camera I have limited space and weight (often times 8KG maximum). The Macbook Air is great, but has limited battery time, and is not as good as an iPad when travelling. many places I go there is no WiFi, no mobile network and limited electricity - quite possibly a few hours a day - if lucky.
I take photos in RAW & JPEG format. 97% of the time there is no access to the cloud and a very, very poor to nil mobile telephone connection that can be used for data transfer, (whether music, data or movies). I have the cloud, with all my music etc. It just about is never used. An iPad with larger memory would be great for me. I also do not wish to pay £3 million per kilobyte of data (exageration, but hopefully you get the idea) for transferring data when it is possible.
I am able to think of other situations where a larger memory is good, not just for me, but for other people.
Here's how I use my iPad (with WiFi and 3G). I have about 100 songs and no films on it and it still isn't enough; not by a long way.
1/ At home. Use Wireless network
2/ At Work. No Wifi and not allowed to connect it physically to any network and no mobile telephone network available. I use it as a stand alone tool alongside my laptops, PCs, Servers etc. Great at meetings, particularly where there is 3G access. Great for presentations, and films to show at work.
3/ Out and about. Despite the fact that I live in the third largest city in the UK, most of the time WiFi is unavailable; as is a 3G connection. So, stand alone iPad again.
4/ Travelling. I travel light with a carry on bag only. With a camera I have limited space and weight (often times 8KG maximum). The Macbook Air is great, but has limited battery time, and is not as good as an iPad when travelling. many places I go there is no WiFi, no mobile network and limited electricity - quite possibly a few hours a day - if lucky.
I take photos in RAW & JPEG format. 97% of the time there is no access to the cloud and a very, very poor to nil mobile telephone connection that can be used for data transfer, (whether music, data or movies). I have the cloud, with all my music etc. It just about is never used. An iPad with larger memory would be great for me. I also do not wish to pay £3 million per kilobyte of data (exageration, but hopefully you get the idea) for transferring data when it is possible.
I am able to think of other situations where a larger memory is good, not just for me, but for other people.
Screen size is 4x bigger, depending on how much of the app is stored graphics, they could grow equally larger. 1080 video is about 2.5x bigger then 720 so if Apple really goes to 1080 movies with the new release, movies are going to get much larger as well.
-Tig
You make a very good point. 3g simply isn't widespread enough for a person to have 'always on' internet access, much less of a quality to stream a movie. Personally, I would never need 128gb but I can see how other people would. I do believe that it's a niche market but once again, it boils down to how much of the tablet market Apple wants.
It is about apple retail line modeling, and not about marginally better best machines
Apple sells by far more machines at either end of the scale. Either the base model or the "best" model.
In designing the models, it is not about being the "long tail" and creating models that will capture the cheapest of the cheap, or the neediest of the needy. But to capture the largest audience at the best margin, and to put something in the middle to help people along (the "better" option sells by far the least of the three models).
This is a carefully crafted retail strategy that works very very well for apple.
128 GB of storage just doesn't capture a large enough audience to not hit the price point, or lower margin return. It may sooner, but it may actually take awhile (not what has happened in iPhones and iPods, and main memory in Air's). This is not to deny that there is a long tail that has needs for an even better machine. There HAS to be for Apple's strategy of not capturing them.
So don't be surprised if the needs of the outliers are not met. This is not the model.
As to the LTE folks, thinking they don't need wi-fi. The truth for LTE is to provide more phones per minute of spectrum. This is way more important than more stuff per phone minute. They are not doing this to provide you with more stuff,but to put more phones per cell tower. Of course if you want to pay the equivalent of more phones, that works for them too.
The more stuff per minute, is dramatically more sorted by wi-fi, and LTE in the boonies or no wifi access.
Fortunately, I am best served by wi-fi, backed by private hot-spot. This dramatically lowers the LTE accounts I need which is less money, and lowers the amount of LTE devices I need, which is less money.
Now, I really need my Nano to be my watch, so I can stop going into my pocket for notifications, sportscores, and change my playlist.
Apple sells by far more machines at either end of the scale. Either the base model or the "best" model.
In designing the models, it is not about being the "long tail" and creating models that will capture the cheapest of the cheap, or the neediest of the needy. But to capture the largest audience at the best margin, and to put something in the middle to help people along (the "better" option sells by far the least of the three models).
This is a carefully crafted retail strategy that works very very well for apple.
128 GB of storage just doesn't capture a large enough audience to not hit the price point, or lower margin return. It may sooner, but it may actually take awhile (not what has happened in iPhones and iPods, and main memory in Air's). This is not to deny that there is a long tail that has needs for an even better machine. There HAS to be for Apple's strategy of not capturing them.
So don't be surprised if the needs of the outliers are not met. This is not the model.
As to the LTE folks, thinking they don't need wi-fi. The truth for LTE is to provide more phones per minute of spectrum. This is way more important than more stuff per phone minute. They are not doing this to provide you with more stuff,but to put more phones per cell tower. Of course if you want to pay the equivalent of more phones, that works for them too.
The more stuff per minute, is dramatically more sorted by wi-fi, and LTE in the boonies or no wifi access.
Fortunately, I am best served by wi-fi, backed by private hot-spot. This dramatically lowers the LTE accounts I need which is less money, and lowers the amount of LTE devices I need, which is less money.
Now, I really need my Nano to be my watch, so I can stop going into my pocket for notifications, sportscores, and change my playlist.
Greedy much?
How are all these posters saying they NEED 128 gb or else it's a DISASTER!!!?
This is ridiculous, no one NEEDS 128 GB on an iPad, it may be nice, or desirable, but never, ever, in this dy and age, necessary.
There is a finite amount of flash that will exist in calendar 2012. There is no doubt in my mind that I'd rather see much of that flash as larger storage capacity laptops and even super speedy desktops than having a few people be able to be lazy and keep more data on their iPad.
This isn't coming from the perspective of a guy with no media. My iTunes library is upwards of 45,000 songs, I have close to a terabyte of movies and tv shows. I also got a 32 gb iPad, and have never once needed more than 16gb, including when I drove across the country and my laptop was stowed away. Had 20 gigs of my favorite music on my iPhone, a season of frasier
How are all these posters saying they NEED 128 gb or else it's a DISASTER!!!?
This is ridiculous, no one NEEDS 128 GB on an iPad, it may be nice, or desirable, but never, ever, in this dy and age, necessary.
There is a finite amount of flash that will exist in calendar 2012. There is no doubt in my mind that I'd rather see much of that flash as larger storage capacity laptops and even super speedy desktops than having a few people be able to be lazy and keep more data on their iPad.
This isn't coming from the perspective of a guy with no media. My iTunes library is upwards of 45,000 songs, I have close to a terabyte of movies and tv shows. I also got a 32 gb iPad, and have never once needed more than 16gb, including when I drove across the country and my laptop was stowed away. Had 20 gigs of my favorite music on my iPhone, a season of frasier
I'm a fan of bands that allow taping. I'm not just attached to a group of songs but to a whole bunch of versions of them. I like having the option of saying, "Hey I want to listen to this Dark Star," and know that it's there. My iTunes music directory is 115 gigs. In terms of what I would want to have access to in a given moment, I could probably chop that down to about 70-80, but get below that and I have to make tough choices.
Sorry, accidentally hit send.
Season of how I met your mother, and a bunch of photos.
Now I know plenty of digital photographers that would love 64 for displaying portfolios especially with a retina display. I'm not saying 128 is stupid, I'm just saying its not really a priority right now, nearly as much as having every Mac get some SSD loving. I'm also saying that people who think 16gb are useless are crazy. I'm much more interested in huge phone capacity than iPad.
Finally, lte or no, in almost all scenarios, it'll be easier/better/smarter to download hd films on wifi than over a cell network.
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Heres my hint. Start rating all your songs. If you absolutely love the song, guve it 5 stars. Setup a smart playlist that auto syncs your 5star songs with you're portable device of choice. What you'll end up with is a library of enough music that you absolutely love that while occasionally you'll be out and about and miss one of your lower rated songs for a specific scenario, you'll have so many other incredible choices you won't mind.
Later, at home/over wifi you can just stream your whole library.
Finally, if that still isn't enough, get spotify...
Season of how I met your mother, and a bunch of photos.
Now I know plenty of digital photographers that would love 64 for displaying portfolios especially with a retina display. I'm not saying 128 is stupid, I'm just saying its not really a priority right now, nearly as much as having every Mac get some SSD loving. I'm also saying that people who think 16gb are useless are crazy. I'm much more interested in huge phone capacity than iPad.
Finally, lte or no, in almost all scenarios, it'll be easier/better/smarter to download hd films on wifi than over a cell network.
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Heres my hint. Start rating all your songs. If you absolutely love the song, guve it 5 stars. Setup a smart playlist that auto syncs your 5star songs with you're portable device of choice. What you'll end up with is a library of enough music that you absolutely love that while occasionally you'll be out and about and miss one of your lower rated songs for a specific scenario, you'll have so many other incredible choices you won't mind.
Later, at home/over wifi you can just stream your whole library.
Finally, if that still isn't enough, get spotify...
How do you use Spotify on a plane with no wifi?
I can respect that 16 gigs is enough for you. I just don't see why you don't understand that others use their devices differently.
Can't Wait
I had an original iPad I sold months ago. Even though I have a Macbook Pro and an iPhone I do find myself missing my iPad.
I had an original iPad I sold months ago. Even though I have a Macbook Pro and an iPhone I do find myself missing my iPad.
So let me get this straight.. same form factor, no increase in GB, and it'll be running the same OS?
No thanks, Apple. I will wait for the iPad 4 and keep using my iPad 2, as a $600 upgrade is most definitely not worth it just for a better screen resolution. For those of us who already have an iPad 2, this is just a money grab.
No thanks, Apple. I will wait for the iPad 4 and keep using my iPad 2, as a $600 upgrade is most definitely not worth it just for a better screen resolution. For those of us who already have an iPad 2, this is just a money grab.
The people who keep saying get music streaming services here is my complaints
Spotify
- Requires Internet Connection
- Eats up data which is it already limited
- COST MONEY
iTunes Match
- Requires Internet Connection
- Eats up data which is it already limited
- COST MONEY
iCloud
- Requires WiFi Connection
- Does nothing to backup App Data
- Does not stream ANYTHING
- Limited to 5GB or it COST MONEY
- No access to your home iTunes
I do not buy Music, Movies or TV Shows on iTunes so if I tell it Not On This Device I get nothing. Movies you can forget about it because they do not provide that option. The only thing I get is App's but when you download it will never restore the App Data from when it was deleted so you have to start all over. Unless they give access to my own iTunes on my computer I do not see less data being a option in the future. And they need to make iCloud keep App Data and backup App Data when a app is deleted and restore that data when it is redownloaded no matter the device.
If Apple releases a 128GB iPad next year or surprises us with one this year I will buy it. I will be getting the 64GB this year if that is all they offer and I will upgrade next just to get the 128GB. If not I will not buy because I am in the same situation with my 64GB iPod touch 3G.
Spotify
- Requires Internet Connection
- Eats up data which is it already limited
- COST MONEY
iTunes Match
- Requires Internet Connection
- Eats up data which is it already limited
- COST MONEY
iCloud
- Requires WiFi Connection
- Does nothing to backup App Data
- Does not stream ANYTHING
- Limited to 5GB or it COST MONEY
- No access to your home iTunes
I do not buy Music, Movies or TV Shows on iTunes so if I tell it Not On This Device I get nothing. Movies you can forget about it because they do not provide that option. The only thing I get is App's but when you download it will never restore the App Data from when it was deleted so you have to start all over. Unless they give access to my own iTunes on my computer I do not see less data being a option in the future. And they need to make iCloud keep App Data and backup App Data when a app is deleted and restore that data when it is redownloaded no matter the device.
If Apple releases a 128GB iPad next year or surprises us with one this year I will buy it. I will be getting the 64GB this year if that is all they offer and I will upgrade next just to get the 128GB. If not I will not buy because I am in the same situation with my 64GB iPod touch 3G.
Tell them they're flying it wrong. My pilot on the way there got there in 14 hours!
Congratulations, you have a wonderfully simply life if that is what you consider a "tough choice." Realize, however, that your frantic listening habits are not of the avg. consumer. It's why these types of products are call "mass market." Companies target the largest market, not niche customers like you.
Beg to differ. There wasn't an actual "need" for these devices until Apple provided them. The same things were already being accomplished - just in other (albeit clumsy) ways. That is the beauty and innovation which is Apple. But even Henry Ford eventually had to offer a "red" car.
For "our" sake, I welcome the day when somebody else eventually succeeds.
I just find it comical that the Apple cheerleaders continue to devote undying love for the largest company on the planet and blindly hope for it to get even more powerful and dictatorial.
I'd imagine that any costs they saved from flash memory prices going down (they have been using 16GB for base since the original iPad) were offset by the increased price in the retina display.
Next year sounds like a good time to introduce 32GB.
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Take a chill pill.
Shaun said:
Take a chill pill.