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Ive said it before and I'll say it again.

It will be the iPad Pro and cost a couple hundred more than the 2.

The 2 will still be available and seeing as it has no real competition, there is no reason to phase it out.

I don't see any reason a new iPad with a more expensive "Retina" screen, and a more expensive battery would be the same price.

Realistically , Apple can charge whatever they want for this new product and everyone will still buy it. If they cant afford it ....get the iPad 2

Simple

i hate that you're right
 
I can't be the only one who pictured a doctor's office filled with little people.

It is just a small practice.

Not to mention bigger people just take up too much space:

There is just no point in a 16gb any more, as apps are getting bigger and bigger people are going to use up space quicker than they can blink, some apps these days are over 2gb and will get bigger and bigger as games and maps get more and more advanced.

:D
 
What will happen when everyone's iPad batteries get worn out?

It feels like quite a few iPad batteries will get worn out at about the same time.

In two years or so I think there will be quite a lot to do for Apple and the service providers.

Or you can attempt to replace the battery yourself.
Seem really difficult though, especially for the iPad 2:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-iPad-2-Wi-Fi-Battery/5383/1

30 (some of them quite crazy including using a heat gun) steps and that's just the way to get the battery in there! Have to do all 30 steps in reverse to get everything back together. :|
 
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Any thinner and it would break in half lol. Unthinkable the iPad 2 is thin enough. I could handle lighter however
 
Ive said it before and I'll say it again.

Do you mean you are repeating what Apple's chief designer Jonathan Ive has said, or do you mean you are too lazy to write an apostrophe even when leaving it out completely alters the meaning of what you are saying?


would the "20-30% mor expensive" statement also be true next year when Aplle orders 12 million of them?

If I order one of these batteries then I'll pay $120 instead of $100. If Apple orders 12 million then they pay $36 each instead of $30. Numbers made up obviously, but 20% more expensive stays 20% more expensive no matter how many you order.
 
I just hope the NFC payment system is implemented in iPhone 5 in time to charge all customers as soon as they walk into the Apple store.

I mean ...Really ! That visit is an experience and lets not kid ourselves: They really need to start charging for that

LOL that's hilarious!
Well i'm all for this new battery, regardless of cost, batteries are key to portable devices. the extra room and weight can be made up for with a retina display. any extra energy and room could be used for more battery to provide higher voltage to a higher clock-speed processor. Of course over time processors get faster and more efficient but still the more power you can throw at it the better. The extra space could also be used for RAM, hard drive space etc.

For the most part smaller, lighter, and higher capacity allows for apple to keep the product revolutionary for another update :D
 
When was the last time Apple actually increased a product's price? The iPhone came down in price. The MBAir came down in price. Same with the iMac and so on.

There is NO WAY Apple is going to charge more for the iPad 3. Especially since competitors are finally starting to come into the area (they still cant compete but there is no way Apple will give them a way in with a price point).

NO
WAY
The Mac Mini was once $499 and is now $599.

The white MacBook went up from $999 to $1099 for a time.
 
Why didn't they then charge more for the iPhone 4 with the Retina display then and make it the iPhone 4 Pro and release a non-retina display iPhone 4? Because that would be ***** stupid.

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There is NO WAY Apple is going to charge more for the iPad 3. Especially since competitors are finally starting to come into the area (they still cant compete but there is no way Apple will give them a way in with a price point).

NO
WAY

Finally, an outbreak of common sense. So much bs spouted on these tech sites it's refreshing to see basic logic prevailing.

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The Mac Mini was once $499 and is now $599.

The white MacBook went up from $999 to $1099 for a time.

Lol, the mac mini is now a completely different device with server technology. In real terms both devices u mention are actually cheaper than they were three years ago.
 
The unit will sell for around the same price as the current gen.

Some parts will go up in price - the battery and the screen specifically. But other parts will be cheaper. RAM gets cheaper year by year. Flash memory too. The majority of the basic parts will go down in price and that will compensate for the small number of high end bits that will go up. They will produce more of them and, since they've been at it for a while the failure rate will likely fall. These two factors will knock chunks off the cost.

Each year we see leaps in tech - but they don't usually come with leaps in price. In fact they usually come with price drops! From time to time we get a whole new product category which is very costly at first (Macbook Air for example) but that cost goes down over time as the volumes increase and the costs of the initial R&D are amortised.

Also I don't see an iPad Pro. It would be an odd sort of move because the costs of making two models would outweigh the additional profits. You would sell only a small number of the pro iPads, most likely, and that just wouldn't justify the massive increase in manufacturing costs, inventory costs and logistics.

Also the apps wouldn't be there. Who would make apps that only work on a very small proportion of machines? So the pro users would have a costly machine that they can't fully take advantage of. No, Apple won't go that way. They might continue to sell an iPad 2 at a reduced price (though that's doubtful anyway) but they aren't going to make an extra expensive iPad Pro.
 
Wrong on so many points but I have little patients so I will address the last one.

Dr. Gates, I am sorry to inform you but you have missed a point or two...

None-the-less, I wont bore you with details... it will not be called iPad 2Pro, it will be called iPad 2S.
 
It feels like quite a few iPad batteries will get worn out at about the same time.

In two years or so I think there will be quite a lot to do for Apple and the service providers.

Or you can attempt to replace the battery yourself.
Seem really difficult though, especially for the iPad 2:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-iPad-2-Wi-Fi-Battery/5383/1

30 (some of them quite crazy including using a heat gun) steps and that's just the way to get the battery in there! Have to do all 30 steps in reverse to get everything back together. :|

The iPad's battery will not get worn out that easy. The battery has 1000 charge/discharge cycles before loosing just 20% of its original capacity. If you charge the iPad one time every two days, it'll last you more than 5 years.
 
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Disagree. You could have made roughly the same argument before the iPad 2 was released. No competitor was comi g close, so why bother improving on the original? Things haven't changed that much. The iPad 2 is still selling like gangbusters, so why discontinue it?

Because Apple likes to push the competion even further behind, that's why. By early next year, MAYBE Samsung will be close to an iPad 2 competitor. But before they can get any traction with it, Apple will force them back to the drawing board with a thinner, lighter, faster, higher-res iPad 3. And Apple is the only tablet maker that can buy cutting-edge components in such bulk that they can still make a nice profit on each one. Everyone else has to wait for prices to come down, but by that time they aren't cutting-edge anymore.

This is one of the reasons the Touchpad, original Galaxy Tab, and Xoom failed so badly. They were competing with the iPad 1, but Apple had already moved on to the iPad 2.

See, The only thing with another company attempting to make a Tablet, Is the name. No-one knows Samsung, or HP, or any other tablet developers. You could go talk to someone, Mention the Name Touchpad, or Playbook, No-one knows it. But Mention the iPad, Everyone does.

Its the brand, the quality of the product. Not to mention the incredible OS inside it. No-one comes close to the iPad.
 
There is just no point in a 16gb any more, as apps are getting bigger and bigger people are going to use up space quicker than they can blink, some apps these days are over 2gb and will get bigger and bigger as games and maps get more and more advanced.

16gb is ok at the moment as the iPad is in its early lifecycle but with apps becoming more space intensive and graphics rich the 16gb has outlived its purpose for iPad3

You are forgetting one thing.

iCloud.

The 16GB is not going anywhere for a while. It's plenty of room for current apps and even future apps probably for another year or two.

Sure they will phase it out, but it's way too soon to do that.

And don't forget, with wireless synching coming in iOS5 and iCloud, space on your iPad wont matter as much, especially for home users.

That is why the rumor of a 8GB iPhone4 model is gaining steam...it's all about the Cloud. If you are using it as a consumption device and there is a central storage, then storage on the device itself doesn't matter anymore as much as it did before.

Apple is actually thinking more a long the lines of less storage down the road on iOS devices due to iCloud.

Actually, the price for the iPhone 4 increased quite substantially off contract (only noticable in Europe: + €*70-80). So your first argument is irrelevant.

How do you know the price increase was due to the retina display? Usually non-contract increases are just due to greed from telecom supplier (verizon, at&t, whatever they have in Europe).
 
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They better pass of the added cost to customers. Shareholders are >>>>than customers. Start it at 599 instead from now on.
 
They better pass of the added cost to customers. Shareholders are >>>>than customers. Start it at 599 instead from now on.

Why do you believe they are going to have to pass the cost on to customers?

There is NO WAY Apple is going to charge more for the iPad3 even with the Retina display and longer battery.

Apple is the ONLY company that can set it's supply costs due to sheer volume that they will request be made. That is the huge advantage Apple has due to their awesome devices.

There WILL BE no increased cost to Apple to have the Retina Display made nor the new batteries. If this was someone else, then yes, they'd have to charge more. But Apple makes so many millions of these things that they can tell the manufacturer they are going to pay this X price...and the supplier will damn well accept it or lose hundreds of millions of orders..which in no way will they do.
 
Why do you believe they are going to have to pass the cost on to customers?

There is NO WAY Apple is going to charge more for the iPad3 even with the Retina display and longer battery.

Apple is the ONLY company that can set it's supply costs due to sheer volume that they will request be made. That is the huge advantage Apple has due to their awesome devices.

There WILL BE no increased cost to Apple to have the Retina Display made nor the new batteries. If this was someone else, then yes, they'd have to charge more. But Apple makes so many millions of these things that they can tell the manufacturer they are going to pay this X price...and the supplier will damn well accept it or lose hundreds of millions of orders..which in no way will they do.

Sarcasm was my intention.
 
They better pass of the added cost to customers. Shareholders are >>>>than customers. Start it at 599 instead from now on.

I was thinking a bit higher, maybe $650-699. That would be a good price point, IMO. I would gladly pay an extra $200. Others may only be able to afford an extra $100.
 
I was thinking a bit higher, maybe $650-699. That would be a good price point, IMO. I would gladly pay an extra $200. Others may only be able to afford an extra $100.

$200 here extra no doubt, hell I would think about 799 for the 16GB. I dont think they do amounts between the hundreds at Apple. Its usually always 99 at the end of the price. Apple says its better that way. More sexy!
 
if they rise the price of the iPad, then the competition will have a way to attack. I hope Apple let the iPad alone as it is if they want to keep their butts in the empire chair.
 
if they rise the price of the iPad, then the competition will have a way to attack. I hope Apple let the iPad alone as it is if they want to keep their butts in the empire chair.

I think they should keep raising the price to see what the market will bear. If they raise it $100, they will still sell them faster than they can make them, and people will camp out to buy them. $200 may slow sales a bit, but if there is nothing to compete with, they'll still sell them by the tens of millions.
 
You have to wonder if they'll bump the price. A6, Retina, global data, probably LTE, maybe NFC? This thing is going to sport a massive spec bump over the iPad 2. If it has all that, I'm in even if they do raise the price.

Economics suggests they should raise the price. If you can't make them fast enough to keep up with demand, then you're not charging enough.
 
i hate that you're right

I love that you admit it.

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You have to wonder if they'll bump the price. A6, Retina, global data, probably LTE, maybe NFC? This thing is going to sport a massive spec bump over the iPad 2. If it has all that, I'm in even if they do raise the price.

Economics suggests they should raise the price. If you can't make them fast enough to keep up with demand, then you're not charging enough.

I think they should keep raising the price to see what the market will bear. If they raise it $100, they will still sell them faster than they can make them, and people will camp out to buy them. $200 may slow sales a bit, but if there is nothing to compete with, they'll still sell them by the tens of millions.

$200 here extra no doubt, hell I would think about 799 for the 16GB. I dont think they do amounts between the hundreds at Apple. Its usually always 99 at the end of the price. Apple says its better that way. More sexy!

It looks like people are starting to agree with me.....

As long as its not ME they are agreeing with :D
 
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