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Kind of weird that a guy with such insight into the new iPads doesn't know if the Mini has retina.

He only has the hardware (from what I have seen from his images, that appears true; just the hardware in the casing), so there is not screen.

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It hasn't actually been confirmed... but I hope he's right.

It is unofficially confirmed. Just wait until the teardowns for the official :)

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Disclaimer. I chose two Minis for myself and my girl for the price of an iPad4. So I do value cost savings.

I use mine for drawing, reading, games and DJing. The Mini, and the 2 I had before it, is powerful enough to DJ without any hiccups. I've used it to do web coding with Textastic on the go, but I have a work computer I use that for mostly. Were my needs more demanding I'd totally go for the 5.

I found the iPad mini to be average for gaming. Well when I say that; it was still better that all other 7'' tablets at that time :)
 
The original iPad had 256GB of RAM which was great for its time. The iPad 2 had 512GB of RAM which was great for its time. The iPad 5 will have 2GB of RAM which is great for today. My point is you can't go by numbers because software requirements goes up hand in hand with hardware.

Actually, 256mb of Ram for iPad 1 and 512mb for iPad 2 wasn't seen as great for the time. Many people weren't happy with it and believed they should have been doubled in both cases. As for 2GB in iPad 5? Well, if it's true, I reckon that NOBODY will complain about that.
 
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Actually, 256mb of Ram for iPad 1 and 512mb for iPad 2 wasn't seen as great for the time. Many people weren't happen with it and believed they should have been doubled in both cases. As for 2GB in iPad 5? Well, if it's true, I reckon that NOBODY will be complain about that.

You are right. The iPad 1 only had 256Mb of RAM as development costs were so high for such a large screen. Well, that is what I believe any way...

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Actually, 256mb of Ram for iPad 1 and 512mb for iPad 2 wasn't seen as great for the time. Many people weren't happen with it and believed they should have been doubled in both cases. As for 2GB in iPad 5? Well, if it's true, I reckon that NOBODY will be complain about that.

2Gb of RAM is going to be great :)
 
You are right. The iPad 1 only had 256Mb of RAM as development costs were so high for such a large screen. Well, that is what I believe any way...

Lol don't make excuses for apple's stingy choices. Just like how one guy tried to tell me that 2GB ram wouldn't fit in the iPhone 5 and 5s.

Seriously though, they sell the iPad for a lot of money, and a laptop of equivalent price cost a lot more to make than the iPad does. Screen can't be the reason why they'd sacrifice on ram.

Of course if you're calculating in R&D prices that's always different, but everything should be assumed with that not being a factor unless it's a last resort retort hah.
 
Lol don't make excuses for apple's stingy choices. Just like how one guy tried to tell me that 2GB ram wouldn't fit in the iPhone 5 and 5s.

Seriously though, they sell the iPad for a lot of money, and a laptop of equivalent price cost a lot more to make than the iPad does. Screen can't be the reason why they'd sacrifice on ram.

Of course if you're calculating in R&D prices that's always different, but everything should be assumed with that not being a factor unless it's a last resort retort hah.

I think the increased RAM would have an affect on the iPhones shot battery life though; the iPad is not so much a problem.
 
You are right. The iPad 1 only had 256Mb of RAM as development costs were so high for such a large screen. Well, that is what I believe any way...


I think more likely it was a test case. They skimped because it was a new market and unsure how people would take to an iPad. Why break the bank on a gamble?

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I think the increased RAM would have an affect on the iPhones shot battery life though; the iPad is not so much a problem.

It's possible, but to my own knowledge RAM effecting battery life is only a very minimal factor. However I will not dispute that possibility, but I think it is much more reasonable to assume that apple was simply too stingy. Because if you really wanted to argue it, you could say that they did the same thing for all their products....to preserve battery life. But in reality, ram is very expensive, and that's more likely the reason - dey cheap lol
 
RAM works differently from flash storage.
  • 2GB RAM takes roughly twice as much power as 1GB RAM of the same spec.
  • 2GB Flash storage however uses roughly the same amount of power as 1GB flash storage.
Due to this, increasing RAM will have an impact on battery life and is another consideration alongside physical space and cost.
Increasing Flash storage however is purely down to physical space and cost. Because Apple control both hardware & software, they are in a position to be able to try and increase efficiency and reduce resource requirements.
For sure, part of the reason iPad 1 and iPad mini would seem a little under specified though would be because they are introductory products and Apple won't invest too much into these devices until they are proven sellers.
 
But in reality, ram is very expensive, and that's more likely the reason - dey cheap lol
Your post made baby Jesus cry. The RAM in "i" devices is on the CPU die. It's not that much more expensive to add more RAM, though it takes up more space on the die. The amount of power to run the additional RAM is negligible.

The additional RAM on the iPad will help it multitask better in iOS 7. 64-bit opcodes take up a bit more space than 32-bit ones (not double, because of the increased efficiency and functionality of each opcode in 64-bit), so the extra RAM is welcomed.

Add me to the list of Day-1 purchasers. I have to upgrade my iPad 1! :eek:
 
It was either a iPhone 5S or a iPad 5. My iPhone 4's ability to run iOS 7 decently was the deciding factor. It works just fine. My iPad, however, not so much. ;)

The jump from 1 to 2 was a big improvement for me - the additional RAM really showed! I enjoyed the jump to the 3 just for the screen; never really saw much by way of performance though. The jump to the 4 was actually the smallest jump but I know it was a big gain for some users - mostly in games but I still wanted to switch so all my devices were using lightning.
I do agree that an increase to 2GB in RAM for the 5 would be noticeable though, lots of browser tabs tend to show up a lack of RAM.
 
Your post made baby Jesus cry. The RAM in "i" devices is on the CPU die. It's not that much more expensive to add more RAM, though it takes up more space on the die. The amount of power to run the additional RAM is negligible.

The additional RAM on the iPad will help it multitask better in iOS 7. 64-bit opcodes take up a bit more space than 32-bit ones (not double, because of the increased efficiency and functionality of each opcode in 64-bit), so the extra RAM is welcomed.

Add me to the list of Day-1 purchasers. I have to upgrade my iPad 1! :eek:

I agree completely. I did not know the ram was located directly on the die itself also (as cache is) but that makes sense. RAM still remains to be one of those most expensive parts of a computer (or phone). You basically stated the same thing as what I did, but more politically correct. I don't know everything about all configurations but I know enough about general concepts to still provide the right answer ;)
 
Here is a news report to the leaked specs of the iPad 5 and mini 2. http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/ipad-mini-2-specs-leaked.html#.UlLXBba9Kc0
 
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Would love to get it day 1, if it was up to me.

However Im betting there will be severe supply constraint just like the 5S which I am also trying to get.
 
Really hope the 2gb ram is true. Lighter, faster, smaller form factor is a given, but ram wise you never know with Apple. The prospect of lots of tabs open, flipping to other apps and back, with said tabs still in place is long overdue.
 
Agree with all of the above, but my point is, when iPhone 4 came out, it was the latest technology. When iPhone 4S came out it was the latest technology. When iPhone 5 came out it was the latest techonology. The software always catches up to the hardware regardless if it is 32-bit, 64-bit, or 512-bit or when 256GB of memory is the standard or 2GB of memory is the standard.

The newest iPhone/iPad models always utilizes the cutting edge technology of the time. If the iPhone/iPad X starts to show its age after 2 years, why would the iPad 5 be any different? The original iPad had 256GB of RAM which was great for its time. The iPad 2 had 512GB of RAM which was great for its time. The iPad 5 will have 2GB of RAM which is great for today. My point is you can't go by numbers because software requirements goes up hand in hand with hardware.

He does have a point though, some iOS devices age much more gracefully than others. The iPad 1 wasn't "great for its time", the RAM limitations became very obvious very quickly. It could barely keep a single Safari tab in memory and complex apps tended to crash rather often. In contrast, the iPad 2 holds up pretty well. The iPad 3 on the other hand is ageing very badly; the A5X is just not cut out for the Retina display. Same goes for the iPhones - the 3GS remains usable until today (on iOS 5 at least, which is two OS-jumps), while the iPhone 3G wasn't even good for one OS revision (ask anyone who tried to run iOS 4 on that turd).
 
Jump to iPad 3 was the biggest. XGA resolution was just too low, and RAM was never really sufficient until the iPad 3 came out ... tabs reloading everywhere.
 
Totally agree with the Pro apps. About the G6630, 1Tflops is it maxed out. If Apple done this and had it outputing at 1Tflop, they wouldn't be able to upgrade it next year. Expect it to be capped around 250-350Gflops.

I have done the maths and the minimum is around 205Gflops. There is a small (small) possibility that it would be around the 155Gflops point but I see it being at least the 205, maybe slightly more(250+). It is still looking like the GPU is outperforming the PS3's GPU (which is 174Gflops) and the Xbox 360's(which is 155Gflops). So even if we don't get 300 -1000Gflops, we are going to at least see console gaming(well, current console) on a tablet.

I just wish there was a easier way for people to port PC and console games to iOS. Games like GTA V won't come to tablet for a while. Not because the iPad 5 couldn't handle it but because the time it would take to re-write all the code.

That is why I would like Rockstar to just port the GTA V map with all the cars and so on and just one playable character (a new one) with a basic storyline and a few side quests for £4.99 or even £6.99. Things like porting a map and cars and things should be an easy transfer over to iOS with the missions being written from Scratch.

That's totally wrong yet again. There is no implementation of Rogue that will deliver 1TFlops/sec. The G6630 will not and is not intended for that. Some future Rogue iteration with 16 clusters might but not the G6630 with 6 clusters.

PS3 and Xbox are around 240GFlops/sec in total.
 
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