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The problem with any user forums is they are generally full of people who have some knowledge of tech and are very picky about quality. The general population are oblivious to such matters and just enjoy their products. Sometimes I wonder if being a member of forums is really that useful?

Personally, yes, it vibrates, could be annoying to some. For me it's something I can ignore. The screen distorts slightly if I push on the back hard, it's fine in normal use. Again, I appreciate some will consider this unacceptable.

All I can say is go buy other products and enjoy them, because clearly Apple products are no longer fit to be in your hands! ;)
 
I'm guessing there are more people returning for the vibration than buying for the improved sound.

I'm guessing that while most aren't buying it specifically for the improved sound, millions and millions more will be pleased by it than the small handful of weirdos who will return it after being unable to figure out the correlation between sound and vibration.

This forum is truly amazing, and it is a profound resource more for people who NEED problems in their lives, than for those who HAVE problems in their lives.
 
I'm guessing that while most aren't buying it specifically for the improved sound, millions and millions more will be pleased by it than the small handful of weirdos who will return it after being unable to figure out the correlation between sound and vibration.

This forum is truly amazing, and it is a profound resource more for people who NEED problems in their lives, than for those who HAVE problems in their lives.

Are you suggesting that a device can't have decent sound without the entire device vibrating?
 
Are you suggesting that a device can't have decent sound without the entire device vibrating?

I'm suggesting that sound is not possible without vibration, and that any design that attempts to improve sound output must take vibration and resonance into account, and the best designs actively work to incorporate these phenomena.

IOW: The case resonates by design, and that is in fact part of the reason it sounds so much better.

FWIW: It only vibrates heavily at volumes far beyond what my iPad 2 and iPad 4 were even CAPABLE of, and [opinion follows] I find it in no way excessive.
 
I'm suggesting that sound is not possible without vibration, and that any design that attempts to improve sound output must take vibration and resonance into account, and the best designs actively work to incorporate these phenomena.

IOW: The case resonates by design, and that is in fact part of the reason it sounds so much better.

FWIW: It only vibrates heavily at volumes far beyond what my iPad 2 and iPad 4 were even CAPABLE of, and [opinion follows] I find it in no way excessive.

With some proper engineering, this shouldn't be an issue at all.

I just can't understand how with just a few clicks on the volume and the ipad being on my desk, I can feel the vibrations throughout the entire desk top. How is that not excessive? How is it not excessive that when I'm simply playing a game, Clash of Clans, that when I tap on the screen, I can feel the constant vibrations on the screen? With just a single tick on the volume, I can feel the back ground music on the game. That's unacceptable for me. When I'm playing for hours at a time, I don't need or want the tingling sensation on my hands after I'm done playing.

With regards to comparing it with the iPad 4. I can feel it with the volume all the way up, but not in any sense of reality as it being even close to the iPad Air 2.
 
Didn't the Air have a thin layer of insulation in it?
The Air 2 has nothing to preventing the annoying vibrations.
 
I'm suggesting that sound is not possible without vibration, and that any design that attempts to improve sound output must take vibration and resonance into account, and the best designs actively work to incorporate these phenomena.

IOW: The case resonates by design, and that is in fact part of the reason it sounds so much better.

FWIW: It only vibrates heavily at volumes far beyond what my iPad 2 and iPad 4 were even CAPABLE of, and [opinion follows] I find it in no way excessive.

My Air sounds pretty good and hardly vibrates. My Air 2 sounds much the same and vibrates quite a lot. Go figure!
 
Didn't the Air have a thin layer of insulation in it?
The Air 2 has nothing to preventing the annoying vibrations.

Nope.

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The vibration was getting on my nerves so I decided to exchange my 64 gig wifi Air 2 for a different one today. To my surprise the vibration on the new one was almost nonexistent. It must of been a bad batch. I bought mine in Seattle btw.
 
I'm suggesting that sound is not possible without vibration, and that any design that attempts to improve sound output must take vibration and resonance into account, and the best designs actively work to incorporate these phenomena.

IOW: The case resonates by design, and that is in fact part of the reason it sounds so much better.

FWIW: It only vibrates heavily at volumes far beyond what my iPad 2 and iPad 4 were even CAPABLE of, and [opinion follows] I find it in no way excessive.

I seriously don't get how people don't love the much bigger sound and realize it's vibrating because... it's much bigger sound. I don't think the vibration is bad at all and the sound is amazing in the tablet/phone category.

My Air sounds pretty good and hardly vibrates. My Air 2 sounds much the same and vibrates quite a lot. Go figure!

No, they do not sound much the same. The new iPad and iPhone have much fuller and louder capabilities, with much more bass. They are far beyond the legacy speakers from last year.

With some proper engineering, this shouldn't be an issue at all.

I just can't understand how with just a few clicks on the volume and the ipad being on my desk, I can feel the vibrations throughout the entire desk top. How is that not excessive? How is it not excessive that when I'm simply playing a game, Clash of Clans, that when I tap on the screen, I can feel the constant vibrations on the screen? With just a single tick on the volume, I can feel the back ground music on the game. That's unacceptable for me. When I'm playing for hours at a time, I don't need or want the tingling sensation on my hands after I'm done playing.

With regards to comparing it with the iPad 4. I can feel it with the volume all the way up, but not in any sense of reality as it being even close to the iPad Air 2.
You really think Apple didn't think to use proper engineering? Speakers of this fuller, more bass and depth capable audio are of course going to vibrate the devices. Previous models didn't vibrate because of the weak speakers with the former mobile signature of nearly nonexistent bass.
 
The vibration was getting on my nerves so I decided to exchange my 64 gig wifi Air 2 for a different one today. To my surprise the vibration on the new one was almost nonexistent. It must of been a bad batch. I bought mine in Seattle btw.
I'm curious to see if this worked for anyone else.
 
I seriously don't get how people don't love the much bigger sound and realize it's vibrating because... it's much bigger sound. I don't think the vibration is bad at all and the sound is amazing in the tablet/phone category.



No, they do not sound much the same. The new iPad and iPhone have much fuller and louder capabilities, with much more bass. They are far beyond the legacy speakers from last year.


You really think Apple didn't think to use proper engineering? Speakers of this fuller, more bass and depth capable audio are of course going to vibrate the devices. Previous models didn't vibrate because of the weak speakers with the former mobile signature of nearly nonexistent bass.

Where are you getting this fuller, more bass, and depth capable audio info from? Can you provide a link or some documentation?

Yes, if for a second you think that they engineered this device to vibrate constantly while sound is present, regardless of the volume level, then I would safely guess that department needs a quick wake up call.
 
Bought a 64GB Wifi last night... took it home to torture test for vibrations. For some reason, it was more pronounced in the store for sure. Last night it was noticeable, but not as "sharp" as I remembered. I wont be returning it... I can manage.
 
Me too. Mine vibrates like crazy. But I am not too worried about it since I mainly use my iPad with headphones if I am watching videos.

I feel similar. I mostly use the speaker with it sitting in a padded stand and it works wonderfully for that purpose. The sound is much better. I don't hold it that often while using the speaker. However, if it really was a bad batch, I would want to exchange it. The store models all vibrate, so I think it's the norm.
 
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I guess its the feel of the vibration and not really distortion

...then there's nothing to talk about it. As each model of iPhone and iPad has gotten thinner, the sound reverberation can be felt more and more. Its not a big deal.

Distortion would be worrisome. This is not.
 
I'm suggesting that sound is not possible without vibration, and that any design that attempts to improve sound output must take vibration and resonance into account, and the best designs actively work to incorporate these phenomena.

IOW: The case resonates by design, and that is in fact part of the reason it sounds so much better.

FWIW: It only vibrates heavily at volumes far beyond what my iPad 2 and iPad 4 were even CAPABLE of, and [opinion follows] I find it in no way excessive.

Shall I bring up light and thin Android tablets that sound good that don't experience vibration?

Your post is way off base!!!!
 
I feel similar. I mostly use the speaker with it sitting in a padded stand and it works wonderfully for that purpose. The sound is much better. I don't hold it that often while using the speaker. However, if it really was a bad batch, I would want to exchange it. The store models all vibrate, so I think it's the norm.

There is no shame in exchanging it. They will exchange for any reason within 14 if you are dissatisfied. Better to do it now than regret it later. The apple dude said he had seen a few exchange and returns for this reason. Mine was pretty bad at most volumes. The new one doesn't have the problem. I'm not imagining that the vibration is way less on this new one.
 
This is as intended because the speakers now are BEATS, so more vibrating from the bass
 
...then there's nothing to talk about it. As each model of iPhone and iPad has gotten thinner, the sound reverberation can be felt more and more. Its not a big deal.

Distortion would be worrisome. This is not.

It's not so much that there is vibration, it's the amount of vibration on certain units, sir. Mine had crazy vibration when the volume was on 20% or greater and you could not turn it up past 65%. I'm not a headphone guy so I tried the smart case and that didn't seem to help dampen it. The one I exchanged it for is not showing signs of the vibration problem, sir.
 
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The vibration was getting on my nerves so I decided to exchange my 64 gig wifi Air 2 for a different one today. To my surprise the vibration on the new one was almost nonexistent. It must of been a bad batch. I bought mine in Seattle btw.

like I said earlier, the recent batch largely resolved the issue. I suggest to get a replacement if you feel it vibrates too much.
 
It's not so much that there is vibration, t's the amount of vibration on certain units, sir. Mine had crazy vibration when the volume was on 20% or greater and you could not turn it up past 65%. I'm not a headphone guy so I tried the smart case and that didn't seem to help dampen it. The one I exchanged it for is not showing signs of the vibration problem, sir.

That's interesting. Is their some identification on the box to delineate a newer batch of iPad Air 2s? UPC or some type of ID?

BTW, I tried Ipad Air 1st gen in Apple store this morning. No way I would give up the Air 2 given its additional benefits over it just because of the vibration.
 
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That's interesting. Is their some identification on the box to delineate a newer batch of iPad Air 2s? UPC or some type of ID?

BTW, I tried Ipad Air 1st gen in Apple store this morning. No way I would give up the Air 2 given its additional benefits over it just because of the vibration.

No, we can't identify certain "batches".
 
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