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Better to write a blog and start praising the device there. Close your eyes and ears from hearing bad rumours from people who dont praise apple all the time... sorry had to say that, but what you are saying it is that people dont have problems with their device but their heads. This is the message you let people to think, if it is not ocd like you mentioned earlier, then it is just imagination... but nothing wrong with the device?
 
And you needed a new thread on this... Why?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1807295/ wasn't closely related enough for you?

That's the typical "complain about a non existent issue" thread I would read just for curiosity....
SO YES, I need a new thread about that, since I'm speaking about different things.

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Better to write a blog and start praising the device there. Close your eyes and ears from hearing bad rumours from people who dont praise apple all the time... sorry had to say that, but what you are saying it is that people dont have problems with their device but their heads. This is the message you let people to think, if it is not ocd like you mentioned earlier, then it is just imagination... but nothing wrong with the device?

Related at that specific issue yes, in my opinion absolutely nothing wrong with the device ON THAT ASPECT.
 
I'm with you 100%. There's too much compromise for a lousy 1 mm extra thinness. Worse batterylife, rippling screen and vibrating sound. I so want the faster processor and the extra RAM, but these trade-offs are so annoying, especially since they are totally unnecessary. Lighter yes, but thinner than the perfectly thin Air1? Just so the thinnest tablet can be claimed? What a waste.

Bingo. The updates were pimped hard and a couple of them are nice but overall once you cut through the hype it's not that big of an upgrade if you own an Air 1. I'm happy for those that think it is....excellent for you. But let's not act like it's night and day because it isn't and the screen issue and vibrating issue are tangible problems. Not saying they bother everyone but they bother enough people that several forums are reporting the same thing so it's not just "Macrumors whiners" or whatever. ;)
 
iPad Air 2 sound vibrating!

At every iPad launch I enjoy the constant complaining about almost everything on this section of the forum, trying to figure out what would be the next #gate.... :cool:




It's an issue that doesn't bother you. So what? Why does that mean it shouldn't bother anyone else? Not sure you've really explained why it is that your personal perception of this problem negates the feelings/experiences of others. You probably need to flesh that part out a little.
 
It's an issue that doesn't bother you. So what? Why does that mean it shouldn't bother anyone else? Not sure you've really explained why it is that your personal perception of this problem negates the feelings/experiences of others. You probably need to flesh that part out a little.

My point is completely different.
It's not an issue. I'm not negating it. It is present and clearly noticeable. But still I can't see how it could be defined as an issue.

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I'm just expressing the opinion that a lot of people are, as usual, whining about something that isn't affecting any feature of the tablet.
After reading about the "issue" I was thinking that vibrations could affect the sound quality. Not even remotely true.
Internal speakers are, as usual, quite crappy, but still good for basic usage and not even remotely affected by the vibration of the shell.
So I can't understand where the issue is. Vibrations are going to affect your hands?
 
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Bingo. The updates were pimped hard and a couple of them are nice but overall once you cut through the hype it's not that big of an upgrade if you own an Air 1. I'm happy for those that think it is....excellent for you. But let's not act like it's night and day because it isn't and the screen issue and vibrating issue are tangible problems. Not saying they bother everyone but they bother enough people that several forums are reporting the same thing so it's not just "Macrumors whiners" or whatever. ;)

I am leaning towards returning it and getting the 1st. The cost savings, better battery life, less vibration and probably not much less performance for me personally for what I do.

I am no engineer. Other light thin tablets on the Android side do not vibrate like this, I admit the Samsung Galaxy S5 does but it is a smartphone. Is the vibration on the Air2 a design flaw? A rocket scientist/engineer isn't the profession of 99 percent of IPad Air 2 owners. If one doesn't want to deal with, who cares what it is categorized as.
 
My point is completely different.
It's not an issue. I'm not negating it. It is present and clearly noticeable. But still I can't see how it could be defined as an issue.

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I'm just expressing the opinion that a lot of people are, as usual, whining about something that isn't affecting any feature of the tablet.
After reading about the "issue" I was thinking that vibrations could affect the sound quality. Not even remotely true.
Internal speakers are, as usual, quite crappy, but still good for basic usage and not even remotely affected by the vibration of the shell.
So I can't understand where the issue is. Vibrations are going to affect your hands?
Maybe some people don't like that it vibrates in your hands with a single volume level above mute. Maybe some don't like their hands tingling after using the tablet just for a few minutes at 20% volume level. Just like some don't like a heavy tablet. Does the weight of a tablet affect its functions? No. It does affect the usability from person to person. The same with the vibration "issue".
 
My point is completely different.

It's not an issue. I'm not negating it. It is present and clearly noticeable. But still I can't see how it could be defined as an issue.


Because it isn't an issue *to you*. you should look up the word "empathy" :)
 
Can't say I'm getting used to the vibration but it's not that big a deal as I don't use the internal speakers all that often.
I feel it's a bit less in the cellular I swapped to from my original wifi only version
but that may be just wishful thinking.
I'm enjoying the upgrade over my original Air. Subtle in many respects but worth the money as far as I'm concerned.
 
Yep whining about nothing. That's why I sent mine back and will be keeping my iPad 3 until this non existent non issue is no longer present in a $700+ device.

That's what I did. The iPad 3 is not as beautiful as the Air 2. But, mine has no issues. It takes a little longer for apps to start, but they run fine.

If Apple fixes the issue, I'll get another Air 2. I may try again if there's a good Black Friday deal. If it's not resolved soon, I'll just skip the Air 2.
 
Lots of people use their iPads at home. No need for headphones then if you don't want to wear them. I should not have to wear earbuds to avoid sound vibrations in my hands (iPads don't even ship with earbuds). I also don't like to feel my iPad "working." I want it to get out of the way and let me immerse myself in consumption or creation.

I agree somewhat on the whole issue I just don't think the issue is necessarily bad or good IMO... If i'm at home usually the iPad is resting on something so the issue has never come up for me until I read this message board. It's one of those things that for the vast majority of people it's a non issue. First people complain about the sound then Apple beefs up the speakers and people still aren't happy.

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Because it isn't an issue *to you*. you should look up the word "empathy" :)

WOW! Someone from stormfront rumors talking about "empathy". AMAZING! Now I've heard everything. :eek::confused:

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I am leaning towards returning it and getting the 1st. The cost savings, better battery life, less vibration and probably not much less performance for me personally for what I do.

I am no engineer. Other light thin tablets on the Android side do not vibrate like this, I admit the Samsung Galaxy S5 does but it is a smartphone. Is the vibration on the Air2 a design flaw? A rocket scientist/engineer isn't the profession of 99 percent of IPad Air 2 owners. If one doesn't want to deal with, who cares what it is categorized as.

The tablets vibrate if they have any kind of decent speakers in them. It's just the fact of life. Even my computer vibrates when I turn the sound on without headphones. Same with every iPad I have ever owned. I'm not sure why people are acting like its such a problem for them NOW but to each his own. I guess they couldn't find anything else to complain about but if it wasn't the sound vibration it would be the fact that the speakers aren't good enough that people would be complaining about. At this point I think maybe Apple might need to start ignoring some of the requests as not valid...because the complaints have gotten silly at this point.
 
I agree somewhat on the whole issue I just don't think the issue is necessarily bad or good IMO... If i'm at home usually the iPad is resting on something so the issue has never come up for me until I read this message board. It's one of those things that for the vast majority of people it's a non issue. First people complain about the sound then Apple beefs up the speakers and people still aren't happy.

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WOW! Someone from stormfront rumors talking about "empathy". AMAZING! Now I've heard everything. :eek::confused:

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The tablets vibrate if they have any kind of decent speakers in them. It's just the fact of life. Even my computer vibrates when I turn the sound on without headphones. Same with every iPad I have ever owned. I'm not sure why people are acting like its such a problem for them NOW but to each his own. I guess they couldn't find anything else to complain about but if it wasn't the sound vibration it would be the fact that the speakers aren't good enough that people would be complaining about. At this point I think maybe Apple might need to start ignoring some of the requests as not valid...because the complaints have gotten silly at this point.

What a stupid assessment of the situation. I've owned several iPads. In fact I have a Mini Retina right in front of me. I put on a bass heavy song and pumped the volume up and guess what? Little to no vibration. I put any audio on the iPad Air 2 at even a low volume and the back as well as the glass start to vibrate. No other tablet does it like this. So go somewhere else with your apologist nonsense.
 
I am leaning towards returning it and getting the 1st. The cost savings, better battery life, less vibration and probably not much less performance for me personally for what I do.

I am no engineer. Other light thin tablets on the Android side do not vibrate like this, I admit the Samsung Galaxy S5 does but it is a smartphone. Is the vibration on the Air2 a design flaw? A rocket scientist/engineer isn't the profession of 99 percent of IPad Air 2 owners. If one doesn't want to deal with, who cares what it is categorized as.

I'm sure you'll be happy with an Air 1. Heck, use the saved money for more storage or accessories.

Hard to say if the vibration is a design flaw or not but it's certainly something that apple didn't take into consideration when they decided to trim the dimensions down from what we're already pretty svelt and light. The Air, especially naked is a very light and pleasant to hold tablet as it is. Trivial amounts lightness and thinness weren't really needed, IMO. I believe the screen distortion issue is also a direct result of the thin design. Oh well.
 
iPad Air 2 sound vibrating!

Does the key click sound, if enabled, cause vibrations? If so, that would be very bad.

For what it' s worth, I can feel vibrations on my iPad 2, but only if the volume is on max and I put my hand over the speaker "grill". The screen never has vibrations on it, though typing for long periods of time causes my fingers to tingle any way, which is one of the reasons I bought a Bluetooth keyboard.
 
Just hold out a few months. Along with the screen distortion, the sound issue will eventually be fixed....
 
WOW! Someone from stormfront rumors talking about "empathy". AMAZING! Now I've heard everything. :eek::confused:



What the heck is stormfront rumours? And why is empathy such a difficult concept for some people on here, it's a basic human trait that most non-psychopaths are equipped with!
 
tried both Air 1 and 2 in-store yesterday - same content - and was quite surprised how much more the 2 seemed to vibrate with the same content

it was enough to put me off for now

now considering an Air 1 refurb for a lot less
 
Hey Guys,

Thought I would chime in with my $0.02. I picked up an Air 2 (already own an Air) from the store a few days ago. As everyone is stating, yes it does vibrate quite a bit (definitely more than the Air). With that said, the sound is much fuller than my original Air. While an annoyance, not a deal breaker for me.

Besides the vibration, my Air 2 has 2 pixels out and pretty bad light bleed. So I ordered another one online (64GB Silver) - then I will return my original to the store. I placed this order online Wednesday morning - I was surprised when it shipped that evening and arrived at my house on Thursday. On Wednesday evening, I started thinking I should have ordered Space Gray, so I ordered that online. Figured, I would just keep the color I like. Well, guess what, that one is coming from China.

So, long story short, I think I will be able to confirm or deny if this indeed something being silently fixed. My Silver one was clearly at a local warehouse and my Space Gray is from a newer batch (not in the States yet).

I'm always careful on placing much credence in what "newbie"s post (i.e. this is being fixed), so hopefully we will see if this is indeed the case. :cool:

Hope you will let us know soon:)
 
tried both Air 1 and 2 in-store yesterday - same content - and was quite surprised how much more the 2 seemed to vibrate with the same content

it was enough to put me off for now

now considering an Air 1 refurb for a lot less

Yep, for many people the Air 1 refurb would be the best buy out there right now. If the issues regarding the Air 2 bother you then why mess around? Just get the Air refurb and use the money you saved more more storage, accessories, or a night out slamming beers. :cool:
 
Yep, for many people the Air 1 refurb would be the best buy out there right now. If the issues regarding the Air 2 bother you then why mess around? Just get the Air refurb and use the money you saved more more storage, accessories, or a night out slamming beers. :cool:

I'm taking mine back tomorrow and will just stick with the iPad 4. :(
 
I'm sure you'll be happy with an Air 1. Heck, use the saved money for more storage or accessories.

Hard to say if the vibration is a design flaw or not but it's certainly something that apple didn't take into consideration when they decided to trim the dimensions down from what we're already pretty svelt and light. The Air, especially naked is a very light and pleasant to hold tablet as it is. Trivial amounts lightness and thinness weren't really needed, IMO. I believe the screen distortion issue is also a direct result of the thin design. Oh well.

I plan to hold off for now, maybe I'll play with it at BB and Apple stores instead. I did own it but gave it up so I am aware of its quality.

I do think the cost will drop on the Air 1 for BF to sweetener the pot and if I can find an open box, well it may be had for around $300.
 
Played with one for the first time today. The vibration is very noticeable even at half volume. It takes away from the luxury of the device in my opinion, but the lighter overall weight was a noticeable plus. These things are related.
 
Played with one for the first time today. The vibration is very noticeable even at half volume. It takes away from the luxury of the device in my opinion, but the lighter overall weight was a noticeable plus. These things are related.

That's not cool. It's one thing to happen at high volumes but even halfway you are saying it was easy to feel through the chassis of the device?
 
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