And the result is quite the opposite. They did sacrifice the design quite a bit producing a half baked product with very limited capabilities.
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And the result is quite the opposite. They did sacrifice the design quite a bit producing a half baked product with very limited capabilities.
by the way, steve said the ipad is a better netbook.
- Steve never said it was better than a netbook. He said a netbook was not better than other devices than anything. He also said an iPad would be better at surfing the web than anything else.
- Your implication is that supporting a mouse makes a netbook better, it does not.
- For many,many things the iPad is much better than a netbook. Watching a movie, reading a book, surfing the web. With the bluetooth keyboard it is much better than 99% of the netbooks out there for creating documents and still more portable.
I had (and still have) money for portable device such as iPad and yes I would buy it if it supports contemporary standard features such as:
- flash player for web browser
- sd card slot
- usb port with support for external HD, printer and camera connection (and similar devices)
- built in camera for skype calls
to mention only god damn OBVIOUS things
As it is - they can take it and shove it up "somewhere"...
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In fact, I take iPad, together with Apple marketing and pricing scheme as frekn insult - it is that bad imho!
You are confused and apparently do not put a lot of actual thought into your purchases then. Many manufacturers throw in features and put little or no thought at all into if they work properly or not, you are apparently their customer. Apple puts in features it knows it can support well when a device is planned to be released and drops the rest until it can fully develop them for a future release. People who buy on quality and functionality instead of feature lists are Apple's customers.
Do you know why the #1 mobile device on the web (By a massive margin) is some form of iDevice even though their % of the mobile web browser market is insignificant ? Because web browsers on iDevices actually provide a good web browsing experience. Apple devices do what they promise and promise to do less. Other devices promise to do everything and actually do nothing.
This only works if they make products people enjoy using.
I do think ultimately you may be able to use an ipad without connecting it to a computer, but I could be wrong
The kit DOES transfer RAW files. I just tested this myself with my Canon 7D. I used the USB camera adapter in the kit to import a photo (JPEG+RAW) from the 7D to my iPad. Afterwards I connected the iPad to my PC. I could browse in Windows 7 the iPad's internal memory where imported photos are stored. Both the JPEG and .CR2 files imported from the 7D were there. I started up Lightroom 3 Beta 2 and was able to import the JPEG and .CR2 from the iPad into my Lightroom photo library.
Glad to hear it... the iPad probably just uses the embedded jpg for previews and such (since it can't actually process the RAW file.)
I don't suppose you'd try the photo connector on your iPhone (if you have one that is
)? I'd love to know if it works on that too. Then I could leave my MBP at home and just take the iPad and iPhone on shortish trips.
USB has been the most obvious and highly used standard since VGA. Every USB 2.0 port will run USB 3.0 devices at USB 2.0 speed. This is just as USB 1.0 works on USB 2.0 ports. The USB standard is the only true peripheral standard that is widely available for all peripherals. Actually fairly rarely, there are products that use USB and either FW, eSata, and etc....
SD is the current standard for devices that use cards just as USB is the standard more widely used than any other card.
This is all OBVIOUS stuff and it's even apparent with Apple selling access to these two ports for $29. Apple would have done its customers better service adding $25 to the price of every iPad and including both SD and USB just as it has via its worthless camera connection kit. Even the name of it is misleading, because Apple should sell it as a USB port and SD card slot port. It is a lot uglier and stupid to have a dumb device hanging off the iPad to give it these capabilities. It could have been a lot more beneficial to the end user to have the ports available when needed.
It's not about the ports detracting from design, it's about Apple wanting to sell its customers not just the product that they needed from the beginning but a trip to the Apple Store or Apple.com buying the product so it will trigger them to buy more products.
Apple needs to think as much of its customers as it does of its number one shareholder's stock price potential.
1. Apple's customers != just you
2. Apple's customers are not just geeks/techies.
3. Apple doesn't follow customers/trend. Apple wants their customers to follow Apple. If Apple does what loud geeks want, we would already have a headless non-pro cheaper Mac tower years ago.
Now I'm not defending the iPad. I don't see myself buying one as I don't see that I need one. But like it or not, Apple have a vision, and they follow it. People whine and bitch when Apple ditch the built-in floppy drive on the first iMac. People whine and bitch when Apple dropped Firewire support on iPods. People whine and bitch when Apple announced the MBA without a built-in optical drive (now many people including me wanting Apple to ditch the optical drive on the Macbook). Built-in USB and SD card slot may be obvious today, but will it matter moving forward? People that want it can buy the dongles, so it's not like Apple are excluding them completely. Picture a digicam with built-in wifi/wimax that uploads pictures taken automatically to MobileMe, and MobileMe pushes those automatically on the iPad. Not common now, but when that happens, the lay people couldn't care less about having a USB port/SD slot on the iPad (actually it's already starting with more and more people simply taking pictures with their cellphones and upload them to facebook, no SD/USB involved).
Glad to hear it... the iPad probably just uses the embedded jpg for previews and such (since it can't actually process the RAW file.)
I don't suppose you'd try the photo connector on your iPhone (if you have one that is
I just tried the camera connector with my iPhone 3G. It works. The iPad photo app launched and I was able to import photos taken with my iPhone. I also tried using a wireless USB keyboard with the kit. I plugged the keyboard's USB IR receiver into the USB camera adapter. Although the iPad popped up a warning that the USB device wasn't supported, I was able to use the keyboard anyway. A nice unexpected plus as I won't have to buy a bluetooth keyboard now for my iPad.
Do you understand the difference between R&D and Cost of Goods Sold? Do you get the accounting aspects of every product? Do you understand that Apple is making revenue from many streams.
Apple is making plenty of money, and its App Store, iTunes, and iBookstore are selling more and more of these.
The iPad profits don't stop after each iPad is sold. The profits keep rolling in with every app, iBook, and iTunes content purchase. The concept of the app store, iTunes, and iBooks is the profit and future sales potential of every iPad sold. I will be damn surprised if Apple doesn't sell these iPads much cheaper within a few years. If Apple realizes it can make $200 or $300 or more per iPad content sales every year, Apple should keep dropping the price and maybe even sell it for cost of parts. Yes, Apple can do this the more it sells... and the more it sells the more the cost per iPads drop due to economies of scale implications.
I cannot believe the level of support for Apple and SJ like he's their GOD? WTF? People complaining that Apple isn't making any money. If Apple wasn't making any money, its damn net profits quarterly wouldn't be what it is... over $4b+ this last quarter. With nearly $40b in the bank, the last thing I would be worried about is a ***** USB port cost on an iPad.
I love Apple products, but I know that I am getting taken every time I buy an Apple product. I am paying that premium so I get all of the bells and whistles, but Apple no longer works that way. We pay a fortune for our Macs, and that fortune used to get us high-end components, but now we're stuck with mid grade components or worse when considering graphics.
Fortunately, AAPL stock pays for all of my Apple products. Even as a shareholder, I am very disappointed with the way Apple treats its customers. It is truly sad. I do believe that SJ cares about his AAPL stock, and that he doesn't give a damn about a single Apple customer if they don't own AAPL stock.
Most importantly, Mr. Jobs has completely forgotten that it was the Mac customers that built the brand. Apple needs to remember its roots and ensure its Mac users are getting the same level of products and services they have been paying for as long as they have been buying Apple Mac Computers. Look at the lack of innovation in current Macs... normally with every MBP upgrade there is something new and innovative that no competitor has yet. Whether it be a backlit keyboard, LED backlit display, glass trackpad, mini display port, or whatever... there was always something not available on other PC alternatives until this update to the MBPs. It looks like Apple has completely lost focus for innovation on the Mac. This is a huge problem because us Apple Mac customers pay a fortune for not just great quality components, and not just OS X, but also innovation... and the innovation has been seriously lacking lately.
Reading that Apple has stopped all work on OS X 10.7 to ensure iPhone OS software and products get all attention is a problem. Apple wants to compete and dominate the iPhone OS product segments, maybe it needs to spend more money ensuring that it has the Mac to fall back on in case it loses this dominance. Android is already growing faster than iPhone OS. Android Apps are on the rise. Windows Mobile 7 looks amazing. Palm's WebOS could get a hell of a boost if bought by the right company. I just want Apple to ensure that it hasn't forgotten its roots, the Mac. With the recent nearly eleven month wait for an MBP update and then no real innovation, still no Mac Pro update after 16 months plus, MBA without an update since October 2008, other Macs already over six months old, I fear that Apple has lost focus with the Mac!
The Mac built this company, and Apple needs to realize it when it leaves the Macs off the table so it can focus on its iPad... Jobs was more worried about an iPad that hadn't sold a single product than he was about innovating the MBPs, and he still has a product base that are all OLD already! People don't want to pay a fortune for computers that are 16 months old plus like the Mac Pro, and those are Apple's highest quality customers. Those are the customers that really built the Apple brand, the pros.
I am not talking about GEEKS here, nor am I talking about me. I am talking LOYAL FAITHFUL Apple customers that have been with it through the years and consistently get crapped on more and more while seeing products go more and more distant from the reason the brand is what it is. Apple was a computer company with a cult-like loyal following that made it the empire it is today with such a great reputation. Apple is quickly becoming a consumer electronics company. But it was the Mac that built Apple's brand. And it were customers buying MacBooks, MacBook Pros, iMacs, and Mac Pros and computers like them before that are the base for the Apple, Inc. that we all know today.
Why so defensive?
It seems like there was a sea change on January 27th. Just as distressing as all the things you mention is that many Mac die hards seem to have been hypnotized by the iPad and now throw around wild hyperbole about how great it supposedly is. I hope these Mac delays are just down to Intel supply issues and not a loss of focus or misdirected priorities.
While the children continue the endless waaaaa about USB ports and such...
It does indeed transfer the raw file. It just can't use it which sucks, but isn't surprising. Building camera support into the iPhoto version would waste more memory. If you want to use the iPad in the field to preview, looks like you'll have to shoot RAW+JPEG which sucks, but I just did some shots with the jpeg at 4.5MP setting and the jpeg file is plenty big for the iPad screen with room to enlarge 4X. That wouldn't be too big a hit on camera memory or iPad memory.
Who's so defensive? I'm not arguing about whether Apple should focus on Macs vs the iPad. I'm arguing against your insistence of putting a USB/SD card slot on the iPad. No.
(1) Including the USB and SD features and adding $25 to the price then makes everybody pay for the feature that may or may not be used. The offloading a camera via USB was not important enough in the features list to warrant the extra engineering of a dedicated slot, but was important enough to warrant designing an OPTIONAL feature that utilized pre-existing data lines.
(2) Selling the Camera Connection Kit as a general USB adapter, as has been stated ad nauseum, opens up the Apple support center to "why doesn't my USB mouse work? Why can I connect my scanner to it?" It is not meant to be all these things. Keyboard and audio headset functionality is an interesting side effect but not an officially supported feature, which is why it is not advertised.
To emphasize the obvious: if SD slot and general USB connectivity are on your list of required features, then buy a netbook or notebook with these features. The iPad is NOT designed for your needs.
I am starting to think that those bashing the iPad for lacking features x, y, and/or z and stating the iPad is a product destined for failure are just upset that Apple released a new device that doesn't meet their specific needs and therefore can't justify buying one. Just a thought to ponder...
In stores?
Anyone know when the camera kit is supposed to show up in the retails stores? I want to get it, but don't feel like ordering it if they'lll be available next week. Thanks,
Anyone know when the camera kit is supposed to show up in the retails stores? I want to get it, but don't feel like ordering it if they'lll be available next week. Thanks,
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Ahhh. That is the info i was looking for! TY! It's rely too bad. But I guess with SD card prices beeing so low I can live with it. Also thank you people who answered previously. that's why I love macrumors
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Ahhh. That is the info i was looking for! TY! It's rely too bad. But I guess with SD card prices beeing so low I can live with it. Also thank you people who answered previously.
that's why I love macrumors
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Ahhh. That is the info i was looking for! TY! It's rely too bad. But I guess with SD card prices beeing so low I can live with it. Also thank you people who answered previously.
Sort of an awkward solution.
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Yes. I didn't watch the video. But your answer was just negative and not helpfully at all. -1
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Yes. I didn't watch the video. But your answer was just negative and not helpfully at all. -1
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Ahhh. That is the info i was looking for! TY! It's rely too bad. But I guess with SD card prices beeing so low I can live with it. Also thank you people who answered previously.
I don't believe that's true. When you take a shot in RAW+JPEG and go to import, the iPad puts a little note on the file at import specifying that it is RAW+JPEG. I haven't gone the rest of the way and tried to take the file off the iPad into the computer to see that the RAW file is indeed there, but from what others above have said, the RAW file is there. iPad just can't use it...it can use the crap preview jpeg attached to the RAW file.
Now maybe on the high end Nikon/Canons that preview jpeg is big enough as those cameras have 900,000 dot LCDs, but for other cameras, like the one I'm currently playing with, it ain't. Maybe I'll try the D3 later.
Unfortunately my ipad 3g won't arrive until friday, so if someone wants to try and see if a RAW makes the round trip, that would be cool.
Anyone know if you can transfer video off of cameras? ie could you hook a Flip camera (or even just video from a still camera) up to this thing and have a great way to watch the vids at full rez?
