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Oh Grasshopper you think too small.

Why does Apple want the ipad/iphone linked to a computer?? Because the ipad is the pot to the Apple's iMac/Macbook crack. No joke. You have this cool mobile thing and you need a computer for it. Your computer is getting slow and cranky. Before you would have gone to the local Best Buy and grabbed another Dell. But now you've been in the Apple Zone, you see what cool they can make. You start thinking "maybe I should go check out their computers, since I need to buy a new one anyway" Zing. Another one changes teams.

I've heard this argument before for iPod, iPhone, iTunes (remember the "glass of ice water to somebody in hell" analogy?), apple TV. I'm not convinced it will have the effect you think it will. Too many people still view the macs as too different/expensive/yuppie. This is probably why Apple have (and will probably continue to) trail behind 4 or 5 other manufacturers in the low to mid range price market.
 
OK if this USB port works for anything then...

Why on earth didn't they just include the usb port and the SD slot in the ipad itself? unless the working support for all those other USB devices is unintended/unsupported, I have a hard time understanding why it isn't integrated. Maybe in iPad V2 I guess
 
Yeah, pretty disgusting that they add features to a product over time! That's why I'll pass on Snow Leopard, they should've put all that stuff in 10.0!

I have to laugh just a little. Cause a fair chunk of the features in Snow Leopard would have been pointless back then due to slower hardware etc.

Also, have you ever tried to debug software that has everything and the kitchen sink in it. Not easy.

I bet if they put every "contemporary standard feature" under the sun into the iPad, you still wouldn't buy it, judging by your bigoted attitude.

Most folks wouldn't cause the price would be too high. Even if those features were via putting the adapters "free" in the box. The box would cost more.
 
Missing iPad Features

Very few projects, like producing the iPad, have more than enough time and money to satisfy all the possible scope features and quality. Complainers that have their own money in a project are entitled to comment. Others that demand someone else to do all the things they want for free should not expect much attention.

Apple had a number of goals and objectives for the iPad and allocated their resources to complete the project the best way they could with the current technology. User feedback and future technologies will allow them to improve the product.

In the meantime, all the whiners should access Dell or HP and get all the features at the price they want at the low price they can afford.
 
In fact, I take iPad, together with Apple marketing and pricing scheme as frekn insult - it is that bad imho!

then why are you here. Why do you torture yourself with reading boards that praise something you disdain so much.

go find a nice WinRumors site to hang with folks that are as stupid as we must be for thinking Apple is generally awesome. Ditch the KoolAid drinkers and be with the enlightened ones
 
It works with RAW images in a limited way. The RAW file stays on your SD card, and the JPEG preview file is imported into the iPad. Thus you cannot off load your RAW files and reuse the SD card. Apple seems to feel that most people will use the Photo app as a way to display images, or to e-mail them. Since there is no App that can work with the RAW images on the iPad, we have to accept this limitation and keep our laptops for serious photo editing

Your wrong.
 
Anyone know if a USB hard drive will work??

Would be great if it did,, as I imagine the Ipads memory will get full pretty quick with photos,,

No it will not. It obviously has to do with a power issue with the iPad. I would think adding a USB would mean being concerned on the power needs of another device, by not having one this obviously solves this problem.
 
Regardless of whether you think it should have one, they didn't exclude it because they couldn't figure out how. They didn't want to sacrifice the design (internally or externally). While I don't mind that decision, I understand why that does turn many people away from the device.

Judging by the sales of iPads, I don't think this probably well considered decision is turning anyone away.
 
This is what I wish would work: Portable HARD DRIVE via USB.

Maybe if they build portable hard drives with their own batteries built in so the connection would not require power from the iPad, this could be supported. Maybe an incentive for WD or Lacie to build self powered portable HDs.
 
No product is perfect, but please consider Apple's entire product line. If you have a need to transfer photos regularly you will probably be considering a iPad with 64gb... and at that point you may want to consider a 13" MacBook Pro with the slot. If you are a casual user, the camera kit is well thought out. Will a slot be there in future models, perhaps, but I have had a iPad for a few weeks and it is my opinion that it is the best first generation product Apple has ever delivered. Remember, this is the first one, think of the first iPhone compared to the 3gs, this is an entirely new product category and will probably go down as one of the most successful product launches of all times. The first goal is to get these things in everyones hands, they sell themselves, and the low price is very attractive. They will add features to get us all to upgrade in the coming years, for now grab a camera kit and go.
 
1. What good does importing RAW do if there's no configurable RAW processor? Raw contains all the image data, but looks like crap until it's been processed... If it's just processing off a preset, then it's pretty pointless to even have the RAWs on the ipad at all.

2. I'm glad they didn't waste $ forcing everyone to have an SD slot. Any camera worth a damn uses CF cards anyway, and who uses a SD card full-time for anything? I'd rather not have every manner of port leaking more power out the battery full-time, when it's only going to be used occasionally. Especially when you've got one port that can handle everything as you need it.
 
Yep, Totally agree here. The only thing I can add is that a whole bunch of USB devices are going to suck power from the iPad, effectively rendering the device unusable very quickly. It's a mobile device, with it's own (relatively small) memory capacity - you're not gonna want to have to plug into the wall to power up all your externals. Sync it with iTunes and then take it on the road. If you want webCams, hard drives, keyboards, sd card slots, compact flash card readers, printers, etc etc etc, then you should probably buy a notebook.

OMG these are the most intelligent responses to the morons who simply can not get their peabrains behind the reasons Apple did not put a USB in the Ipad.

It's all about power and connections friends. You simply don't need everything n e world attached to this device, it was not designed to replace your macbookpro.

If you want everything get a cheap net book for 300 bucks and running windows 7. Then we'll really see the complaining and whinning begin.
 
I have to laugh just a little. Cause a fair chunk of the features in Snow Leopard would have been pointless back then due to slower hardware etc.

Also, have you ever tried to debug software that has everything and the kitchen sink in it. Not easy.

Sarcasm, thought that was clear. I was just saying that there aren't many tech products from any company that won't have more features next year than this year. :) I should go whine on a forum about HP's slate and say "they'll just give it more battery life next year to make me upgrade", etc.
 
hmm I wouldn't say it's no different than an iPhone, but it's definitely not worth much to someone like myself with an iphone(especially if 4th gen is awesome) and macbook. I already went overboard with iphone apps, and don't want to repurchase a lot of them in more expensive versions. I guess I wouldn't mind using an iPad to take notes in class, or playing games in between classes.

Do us all a favor. Do not buy an iPad!
 
Why?
Can't you already use Skype with the standard Apple white headphones?

C.

You can use Skype even without the white headphones - it has a microphone on the top edge and speakers on the bottom edge and it works perfectly. Called my brother-in-law in France the other day on it and the people in the room with me were amazed.
 
This is the main point that's gone missing on the "missing port whiners", that being: the iPad is the first of a new category of device which lies BETWEEN phones and notebooks/laptops.

Its OS is the iPhone OS, not OS X as such, which has some important human interface differences, its main attributes being self containment and portability.

The iPhone is nicely self contained and portable as I would expect a "phone" to be.

The iPad adds to that self containment and portability a large screen along with a touch interface, both of which enable a certain range of operability for apps designed to run on it.

The form factor coupled with the apps make for the uniqueness of the iPad. It isn't meant to be phone, and it isn't meant to be a notebook. Though Apple may relent at some point and add a forward facing camera for teleconferencing and the like, the iPad would make an awkward camera, as such, as it would be too large a box to handle for taking photos.

I think Apple is intentionally holding the line here against the inevitable grumblings of the unwashed masses, as the new device category created by the iPad and with the iPad as its sole member and guidon has had precious little chance to catch on or to be comprehended.

People need some time to get familiar with it and learn the types of things it's good at. My mother used to show me pictures of her as a child, some of them in her school with its blackboards and chalk, as well as individual "slates" which students used to write on with chalk to display their math problems and various word spellings, etc. Just as those primitive slates had their uses, so now does the iPad.

Apple will hopefully not kow tow to every request of every computer geek out there who may be oblivious to the genius of Apple's design intent for the iPad. Rather, the geeks will be left to quibble as they are wont to do over other gadgets and gew gaws which the competition may foist on them.

In the mean time, the iPad will proliferate broadly, finding happy homes everywhere in homes, schools, industry, business, institutions, churches, etc., doing the things people will learn that it does best and most likely never miss its silly SD card and USB connectors.



BRAVO WELL SAID!!'n
 
Your logic is flawed. Because Apple now offers USB through the connection kit. It only supports limited hardware, but how is that different from including a normal USB port in the device itself? I mean, people who buy the connection kit may also be confused and call Apple Support asking why they can't connect their USB harddisk to it.

Because it's a "camera connection kit"
 
Why on earth didn't they just include the usb port and the SD slot in the ipad itself?

How many times does this need to be answered before people will understand? One of poster actually said they would like a USB port so they could use their iPad with a mouse. Seriously? A mouse? The iPad runs iPhone OS. iPhone OS and all of it 150,000+ apps have NO IDEA what a mouse is or how to use it. But if there was a USB port on the iPad... you know Apple would probably get about 10,000 calls a day from people asking "why can't I use my mouse".

Here's the thing...the iPad is NOT a "computer". It is NOT something you would typically use at a desk. It's something you would typically use on your lap, on the couch, reading in bed, at a coffee shop, in a meeting, on a plane, in the kitchen (for recipe reading)... etc. It's a MOBILE device. If you need to be regularly tethered to a bunch of wired peripherals you are most likely at a desk using a COMPUTER. Not an iPad.

Back to the mouse comment. Can you imagine the utter chaos and confusion from "stupid users" and the avalanche of support calls Apple would get from people asking why their USB printer, mouse, scanner, joystick, hard drive, monitor, Foreman Grill, foot massager, etc. doesn't work on their iPad?! It's not a computer folks. It's an information appliance. That's why it doesn't have a built-in USB port and why, I predict, it never will.
 
The ongoing question about hooking up a hard drive demonstrates why the iPad has no USB port. Again, it's not a "computer". It's a mobile device. There's no user-exposed file system. What are you going to do with that hard drive once it's hooked up? Even if the OS recognized it... there's no way to browse the file system on it and no way to make the iPad "Photos" app (or any other app) use your external device for file storage. Why would you want to anyway? Having the iPad tethered to a hard drive defeats the beauty and simplicity of it's small, light, mobile form factor.
 
Make No Mistake, A Camera's Coming

But only one camera: front facing.
iPad will never sport a back facing camera.
The idea of actually holding up an iPad to take pictures is laughable. Apple knows this. Many on these forums know this. So let's just file this "request" under "just because you can doesn't mean you should."

With a lone front facing camera, iPad could make a nice person to person video conferencig device. Considering the intimacy they're touting with iPad, person to person (vid chat) communication seems to fit the mold.
 
iPad is a joke

Although I've played around on an iPad and thought the screen and user interface were great, there is simply no excuse for the lack of usb ports. Its really ridiculous and I'm starting to see why there are so many apple haters out there. I own an iPhone and a Macbook Pro and love them, but apple really needs to get their act together.

Why do they do crap like this?
 
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