Agreed. It makes sense. However... currently I think the number of people who actually use video chat is probably very low and I'm not sure that will ever change. I bet if you did a survey asking how many people have ever used the webcam in their iMac/MacBook... the result would be less than 1%. It's one of those things that sounds really cool and everyone thinks they want... but they actually don't. Like voice recognition vs. keyboard input. Sounds cool in theory... but no one actually uses it or wants it. That's just a guess on my part though.
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Agreed. It makes sense. However... currently I think the number of people who actually use video chat is probably very low and I'm not sure that will ever change. I bet if you did a survey asking how many people have ever used the webcam in their iMac/MacBook... the result would be less than 1%. It's one of those things that sounds really cool and everyone thinks they want... but they actually don't. Like voice recognition vs. keyboard input. Sounds cool in theory... but no one actually uses it or wants it. That's just a guess on my part though.
It will not work for every device. if your device is not class compliant, chances are it will not work.
Think about it, if Apple had a front facing camera on an iPad it would also have to provide a great (iChat) application for its use. They did not want to provide that in an OS 3.x incarnation. This is to be a feature on the new iPhone in OS 4.x, the soonest we will see that is the end of June. The iPhone OS 4 for iPad will not be available until September. Accordingly, a camera on the current model creates more hassles than it is worth given the OS roll-out and iPhone 4G schedule. We will likely see an iPad with camera early 2011 and a likely camera accessory for Gen 1 iPads in the fall (2010).
If backup is your main reason for wanting USB read/write, doesn't iTunes backup iPad just like it does iPhone?
if the 2nd gen sells for the same price with more features isn't that just all the more incentive for people to buy it? apple is still making more money cause you are buying 2 instead of one.
I hear ya, Takeo.
There was also a time when more people listened to the radio than watched tv.
One reason I suspect vid chatting hasn't taken off more than it has already, is perhaps users are/will be more interested in such on a more versatile/mobile device (iPad/iPhone) - as opposed to device (desk-/laptop) tethered to, at best, a hot spot.
Again, something as intimate as face to face conversation might be more desriable on a more intimate device than what has currently existed.
That said I can imagne a much better vid chatting experience on an iPad (practically a life sized image) than the smaller screen of an iPhone. Though I stand by the idea that both devices are perfectly suitable for such activity.
All of this is a moot point, when the ipad is jailbroken and they have direct access to the usb port through the camera connection kit, you will be able to use external drives as soon as someone writes an app to access it. Which is why I bought the 16gb ipad in the first place, people you have to think, if apple included a usb port that would accept external harddrives, why on earth would someone but the 32 or 64 gb versions?
Well in your world, the SD card is the "dominant memory card format." In MY world (2 dSLR bodies & 1 point & shoot) the CF is king. The only thing I have that uses a SD card is my Wii. So I'm glad there is no SD slot on the iPad in MY world (I wish I could same the same about the MBP). Now they just need to sell the adaptors separately, and I'd be really happy in MY world.
1. More cutouts in the case = less reliability due to rigidity, dust intrusion.
2. that cutout leads to something inside: that takes space; Less room for other stuff.
3. Even with a spring loaded or sliding cover, that's one more thing to break or be manufactured improperly = lower yield
4. Not everyone wants SD; I use SD, memory sticks (sony: both sizes), CF.
5. the apple connector is USB+ other stuff. The adapter makes perfect sense.
That said, yes, I'd like the USB port built in to V2 along with a reversable camera (pic and/or iChat). Also, the software to allow USB etc. flash memory cards to import / export files from an iPad file system. And the ability to play DVD / BluRay movies from an external self powered drive (I don't expect the iPad to power such devices).
God, so many trolls here that people that want information are ignored.
Oh that's too bad. That video should be edited then. The person made it sound like it can import RAW files. Really, iPhoto seems like a natural app for the iPad. I wonder why we haven't seen iLife 2010 yet.
Or even do these file based operations via Mobile Me instead / in addition to the iTunes "shared docs" folder proposal.
Given how prolific SD memory is, Apple really should put an SD slot near the dock connector.
Just my opinion. Two little slots (SD & dock connector) really wouldn't have destroyed the aesthetics of the device.
Just my opinion. Two little slots (SD & dock connector) really wouldn't have destroyed the aesthetics of the device.
It's not MY world either. I have a dSLR with a CF card too. But the iPad is supposedly marketed to grandparents and computer phobic people. I'd imagine that most of this demographic uses cameras that have SD memory cards.
Even before the iPad's release, so many people in the tech community have been hell-bent on dropping a deuce on it at every opportunity (mostly out of fear.) This trend has continued in spite of the public’s overwhelmingly positive response to the iPad. Which is no surprise. The more Joe Average, the media and the industry love it, the more the tech-heads on fansites will scream against it.
Rule of thumb: the more fan-site goers hate it, the better it is.
Keep up the hate, guys. You might just end up convincing me to get THREE of them, never mind just one.
Tell me more about how you see no use for the iPad, about how Apple should have included more holes in it to plug things into, and why you're not getting one and what your friends are saying about it! Tell me more!
Rule of thumb: the more fan-site goers hate it, the better it is.
Keep up the hate, guys. You might just end up convincing me to get THREE of them, never mind just one.
Tell me more about how you see no use for the iPad, about how Apple should have included more holes in it to plug things into, and why you're not getting one and what your friends are saying about it! Tell me more!
Never heard that one. I was under the impression that it's a "netbook killer."
Grandparents hate touch screens.
Ok, there is someone on the apple discussion forums that claims that they were able to load RAW images to the iPad using the kit, then connected the iPad to the mac and were able to access the full resolution RAW files with Lightroom (with iPhoto and Aperture also recognizing the iPad). The resulting files were the full resolution and file size that were on the camera.
So maybe we need a little more clarification...
So late to this thread I doubt anyone will read this, but it seems odd to be that there are two primary assumptions on why there is no USB and no SD card on the iPad.
1. Apple is evil and wants you to suffer, or be forced to upgrade later.
2. Apple is a benevolent dictator who knows you don't actually want those and will soon see they are right.
If I may humbly suggest a third scenario. When they were lining up which features they wanted for the first release of the iPad and ranking them by importance and resources needed to develop, prototype, test and support. These features simply didn't make the cut line?
In my world there are lots of features and bug fixes that don't make it into releases that taken by themselves are "simple" because they don't rank high enough on the "things we have time to do" list.
Sometimes features are dropped because the first pass at implementing them created some unforeseen problem and there is only time to drop the feature and plan on doing it right next time around.
The platform they are leveraging for the iPad (iPhone iPod touch) does not have generic usb support or SD card support so it would have been more effort than simply soldering the connectors onto the board. They may simply have not had time.
just a thought,
*shrug*
1. Apple is evil and wants you to suffer, or be forced to upgrade later.
2. Apple is a benevolent dictator who knows you don't actually want those and will soon see they are right.
If I may humbly suggest a third scenario. When they were lining up which features they wanted for the first release of the iPad and ranking them by importance and resources needed to develop, prototype, test and support. These features simply didn't make the cut line?
In my world there are lots of features and bug fixes that don't make it into releases that taken by themselves are "simple" because they don't rank high enough on the "things we have time to do" list.
Sometimes features are dropped because the first pass at implementing them created some unforeseen problem and there is only time to drop the feature and plan on doing it right next time around.
The platform they are leveraging for the iPad (iPhone iPod touch) does not have generic usb support or SD card support so it would have been more effort than simply soldering the connectors onto the board. They may simply have not had time.
just a thought,
*shrug*
It's too big to also be a camera so strike that. Now forward facing. Imagine it in your lap and you are looking straight down at the camera. You would look horrible. A double chin shot. It only works if the camera is up high and you are chin up. Who wants to hold a 1.5 pound device out in front of themselves to video conference? NOBODY. What percentage even do this on their laptop? Tiny. My guess is people who bitch about no camera don't even use the one they have, but just like to bitch.
Ok now Universal Serial Bus. Apple wouldn't want it to be universal so they left it off because people would rightly expect it to be like on their other computers. If it's to be safe and limited leave it off add an accessory for those who want it.
Ok now Universal Serial Bus. Apple wouldn't want it to be universal so they left it off because people would rightly expect it to be like on their other computers. If it's to be safe and limited leave it off add an accessory for those who want it.
Thank you Gizmodo
My Gizmodo live for ever!
http://gizmodo.com/5508399/10-essential-ipad-tips--tricks
maybe old new for some but nice to know now i know the ipad will rule the world,
Apple should pull its head out of its *** and have told us it did this.
My Gizmodo live for ever!
http://gizmodo.com/5508399/10-essential-ipad-tips--tricks
maybe old new for some but nice to know now i know the ipad will rule the world,
Apple should pull its head out of its *** and have told us it did this.
Please check your facts, it's not a "USB adapter," it's a camera connection kit. If Apple had wanted it to be used with other devices they would have sold it as a USB adapter. I'd be willing to bet that we'll never see a built-in USB port on the iPad, we may never see an SD slot either. As for the camera, well, that's probably a given in another year or so.
chaosconan said:
You can already share files over WiFi between the iPad and Mac/PC using one of the third-party apps like AirSharing. No need for a USB port or a memory card slot. Of course, this type of file sharing is sandboxed so it isn't completely open to all potential functions but that's the way Apple probably wants it.