Exactly!! The age and mentality of this kid throwing the temper tantrum was perfect!
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iPad Competitors Begin to Disappear Even Before Being Released
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Exactly!! The age and mentality of this kid throwing the temper tantrum was perfect!
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Maybe you think they cancelled it because they MS expected it to be competitive? It was cancelled because when matching it up to the iPad on features and price, it didn't match up. Period.
When Apple releases new products, four things happen:
1) They get criticized for all the missing features
2) The "experts" assure us it won't sell.
3) It sells
4) Everyone copies it.
Like clockwork, whether it's an iPod, iPhone or iPad. Frankly, I would like to see some new idea, some new innovation, instead of another Apple rip-off. Now, that's competition that will benefit all.
Looks like a committed WoW player that didn't get his way.
Or someone with a serious mental imbalance.
Oh wait . . . there's no difference.
You might want to go over to Engadget and read the thread about the Courier being cancelled. Makes this site read like Plato's Symposium.
At least when Apple fans go off-kilter, it's about real, existing things.
Yep, funny how many people were viewing that so-obviously-mocked-up concept as something that would actually ship, and be anything like what they showed in the video.
First it was "I'm waiting for the Joo Joo!" (shipped, but was obviously DOA crap)
Then it was "I'm waiting for the HP Slate!" (delayed, delayed, now in limbo)
Then it was "I'm waiting for the Dell Streak/Mini!" (also delayed demoware, might ship this year)
Then it was "I'm waiting for the Courier!" (will be delivered to you by a unicorn)
Well, they're all still waiting. There will be other tablets that make it to market of course. Some will eventually be decent. But there's a good reason why there's not a huge flood of great, affordable, shipping tablets to compete with the iPad, even though everyone and their uncle says they're working on one. I agree Apple's word "magical" is hyperbole, but they clearly have some magical elements going on that no one else has been able to put together. Seems simple to just make a great tablet, right? Guess what, it's not.
This is god news in one sense, Apple is forcing innovation.
In this case by the competition because frankly the only thing that comes close to being a real competitor to the iPad is Nokia's N900 devices. Not on device size of course but on getting at least a few concepts right. The problem is Nokia gimps these devices worst than Apple so in many ways Apple is still ahead.
In any event what this says to me is that Apple will be running SMP A9's with OpenCL compliant GPUs and 512MB of RAM before these guys have product one out the door. So in the end what iPad is doing is pushing innovation at places like Nokia, HP and Microsoft because they have to innovate to catch up to iPad.
By the way Microsoft's device isn't that bad of a design. i could actually see Apple bringing out such a device in the future. Imagine an iPad like device that is foldable to make it more portable and to give the screen a little protection.
Dave
In this case by the competition because frankly the only thing that comes close to being a real competitor to the iPad is Nokia's N900 devices. Not on device size of course but on getting at least a few concepts right. The problem is Nokia gimps these devices worst than Apple so in many ways Apple is still ahead.
In any event what this says to me is that Apple will be running SMP A9's with OpenCL compliant GPUs and 512MB of RAM before these guys have product one out the door. So in the end what iPad is doing is pushing innovation at places like Nokia, HP and Microsoft because they have to innovate to catch up to iPad.
By the way Microsoft's device isn't that bad of a design. i could actually see Apple bringing out such a device in the future. Imagine an iPad like device that is foldable to make it more portable and to give the screen a little protection.
Dave
Never been a fan of palm but WebOS is interesting.
A lack of vision is leaving MS behind. AT least the designers at Apple had a vision of a device that people might want to use. However I would suspect that even the engineers at Apple want more in iPad than it currently has. Apple just has the ability to make the right tradeoffs to produce a salable product. In the end it is probably what Steve does best at Apple, that is force the focus on the things that make a difference in the final product.
If MS had such a person then I'd say look out because there are many talented people there to deliver.
Dave
There are interesting concepts there no doubt but will it scale to a big screen device? I'm not so sure. As to the idea of web apps the iPhone supports such just fine but native apps too. So I have to wonder if there is anything there to draw developer attention towards WebOS. Developers haven't exactly flocked to web apps on iPhone.
MicroSoft needs new leadership it is as simple as that. Nobody there has a vision as far as hardware devices go. Sad to because they could have an excellent time with the right product exploiting their better software.
A lack of vision is leaving MS behind. AT least the designers at Apple had a vision of a device that people might want to use. However I would suspect that even the engineers at Apple want more in iPad than it currently has. Apple just has the ability to make the right tradeoffs to produce a salable product. In the end it is probably what Steve does best at Apple, that is force the focus on the things that make a difference in the final product.
If MS had such a person then I'd say look out because there are many talented people there to deliver.
Dave
It's sad that established companies with tablet products on the market are waiting to see what the newcomer is going to do. They probably bought iPads for 'research' purposes like a cheap Chinese knock-off outfit. They should be embarrassed.
You know THAT is the reason Microsoft can never be Apple. They pretend to create amazing prodicts rathe rthan actually going out and doing it. When I saw the courier demos I was amazed. It was the only thing I'd ever seen that could compete against the iPhone/iPad/ipod touch platform.
And... it's vaporware. So shamefully typical
Followed by...
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I think Microsoft may have actually built the thing and realized it's a POS. People want to touch on screen buttons to do simple tasks, not cast complicated spells. The thing was only impressive because in our backwards way of thinking of needless complexity means "futuristic". Microsoft released two videos each something like 10 minutes that only showed a simple scrapbooking app made complex. They added a camera, but everything else was a gimmick way of cut & paste and other rudementary tasks.
I actually like Microsoft for the things they hav released. This thing was the emperor's new clothes.
I think Microsoft may have actually built the thing and realized it's a POS. People want to touch on screen buttons to do simple tasks, not cast complicated spells. The thing was only impressive because in our backwards way of thinking of needless complexity means "futuristic". Microsoft released two videos each something like 10 minutes that only showed a simple scrapbooking app made complex. They added a camera, but everything else was a gimmick way of cut & paste and other rudementary tasks.
I actually like Microsoft for the things they hav released. This thing was the emperor's new clothes.
are you kidding me?
I think a little of the over-exuberance is directly proportional to the amount of trolling & shilling that we have been subjected to from some of the forum posters over the last 4 months. What is REALLY killing the discussions, and by extension this site, is the complete lack of real controls or the ability to downrank the more obvious trolls into oblivion. While I have no problem whatsoever listening to differences in opinion (especially if it adds to the discourse). I don't understand those who feel obligated to come here, of all places, to express your hatred of all things Apple. There are PLENTY of places where you can go and do that (Giz, ArsTecnica & Engadget readily come to mind... and I like those sites). This IS a site for folks who are fanboys (but not in the derogatory way it is oft bandied about). This SHOULD be a safe haven for folks to talk, share, and even bitc@ about what they don't like. And honestly Apple products & Apple itself, is not perfect.... but it sure beats the pants off just about everyone else, who instead of bringing real innovation, bring a bad imitation to the table.
So, as one who was admonished fairly recently for taking on a few trolls and speaking too honestly, I can understand where the more childish comments are coming from. Even this morning, folks were saying "yeah, but wait until Courier comes out" (as if that vaporware was ever going to be a game changer). I guess not. They rolled over when they saw what they were up against, and found themselves sorely lacking...
cheers,
michael
I think a little of the over-exuberance is directly proportional to the amount of trolling & shilling that we have been subjected to from some of the forum posters over the last 4 months. What is REALLY killing the discussions, and by extension this site, is the complete lack of real controls or the ability to downrank the more obvious trolls into oblivion. While I have no problem whatsoever listening to differences in opinion (especially if it adds to the discourse). I don't understand those who feel obligated to come here, of all places, to express your hatred of all things Apple. There are PLENTY of places where you can go and do that (Giz, ArsTecnica & Engadget readily come to mind... and I like those sites). This IS a site for folks who are fanboys (but not in the derogatory way it is oft bandied about). This SHOULD be a safe haven for folks to talk, share, and even bitc@ about what they don't like. And honestly Apple products & Apple itself, is not perfect.... but it sure beats the pants off just about everyone else, who instead of bringing real innovation, bring a bad imitation to the table.
So, as one who was admonished fairly recently for taking on a few trolls and speaking too honestly, I can understand where the more childish comments are coming from. Even this morning, folks were saying "yeah, but wait until Courier comes out" (as if that vaporware was ever going to be a game changer). I guess not. They rolled over when they saw what they were up against, and found themselves sorely lacking...
cheers,
michael
True. I have no interest in any of the proposed competitors, but the more things out there with better features than the iPad the more push there is for Apple to add those or other features.
Apple's approach of incrementally adding features may make good business sense and please stock holders but it keeps me from buying. Wouldn't it be nice if Apple would strive to produce the Best with the first release of a product.
So far they've done just that with the iPad. The competition was was small a while ago. It's almost non-existent now. If you think about it, the iPad is currently a best-in-class product.
What's the difference between a 15' standard PC monitor and a 27' one?
Sometimes the bigger screen is already more than enough reason to get the device.
Pink: vaporware ideas to distract from NeXT; never shipped.
Taligent: vaporous, but did ship a product, just not what was intended.
Copland: unfinished, aborted features; shipped and revoked a developer preview that was later salvaged.
Gershwin: absolute vaporware.
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
They thought - there's no way that we can charge so much for a Zune with a large screen.
You can do that with a netbook or computer too. Or with an iPod Touch with a smaller screen.
You should also check out the definition of 'insult'. What was that lawn mowing stuff all about? You shouldn't be advising people about being educated.
I'm just trying to think which was Apple's last "full-blown, entirely new platform". I can't remember. Apparently, Windows 7 is pretty good.
They thought - there's no way that we can charge so much for a Zune with a large screen.
Uh, the iPad can make calls through Fring or Skype. Perhaps you should spend some of that money you make mowing lawns and buy an iPad so at least you can throw educated insults at it.
Boo-Ya!
You can do that with a netbook or computer too. Or with an iPod Touch with a smaller screen.
You should also check out the definition of 'insult'. What was that lawn mowing stuff all about? You shouldn't be advising people about being educated.
I'm just trying to think which was Apple's last "full-blown, entirely new platform". I can't remember. Apparently, Windows 7 is pretty good.
Bummer
I'm kinda bummed because I did actually like the concept of the Courier. It actually seemed like it had a practical purpose at a practical size, unlike the iPad which is not practical for anything but being a bigger iPhone. I'm hoping this was canceled strictly because they have something better.
I'm kinda bummed because I did actually like the concept of the Courier. It actually seemed like it had a practical purpose at a practical size, unlike the iPad which is not practical for anything but being a bigger iPhone. I'm hoping this was canceled strictly because they have something better.