This is EXACTLY competition. Now competitors have to go back to the drawing boards and make better products.
The tablet business is very young. The system works.
iPad Competitors Begin to Disappear Even Before Being Released
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This is EXACTLY competition. Now competitors have to go back to the drawing boards and make better products.
The tablet business is very young. The system works.
*LTD*
macrumors G4
The Gizmoron article *has* to be the funniest addition to this farce, especially given current events:
http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet
"Courier is a real device, and we've heard that it's in the "late prototype" stage of development."
I guess they meant the other meaning of the word "late".
The best thing they had come up with in their 30 years . . . happens to be vaporware.
B-b-but hey! Windows 7 is still pretty good.
http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet
"Courier is a real device, and we've heard that it's in the "late prototype" stage of development."
I guess they meant the other meaning of the word "late".
The best thing they had come up with in their 30 years . . . happens to be vaporware.
B-b-but hey! Windows 7 is still pretty good.
Like most folks that complain about the iPad, you can't even define what you want other than you want "new technology".
You should work for one of Apple's competitors. You would fit right in.
applesupergeek
macrumors 6502a
Wow, I was looking forward to that windows 7 dog with 1 gb ram and the crappy atom...
What pisses me of with this idiots is their dishonest practise of touting and plugging vapourware all over the place, just to cut steam off a competitor, and delaying the purchases for so many people. This is typical ms practise, but hp with this slate thing have even managed to outdo ms, leaked (i.e. handed over by their pr) spec sheets, mock up videos, presantation at the CES. Acer went out and flat out said, we can't compete with apple on this segment, period, they didn't try to fool anyone or be dishonest...
Anyway webos my palm, is a good piece o software, it might save them from the horror o running windows 7 on a tablet. Good choice to buy palm. Vital.
This is so comical, trust ms to embarrass themselves at least once a month... what a sad joke of company they are...
What pisses me of with this idiots is their dishonest practise of touting and plugging vapourware all over the place, just to cut steam off a competitor, and delaying the purchases for so many people. This is typical ms practise, but hp with this slate thing have even managed to outdo ms, leaked (i.e. handed over by their pr) spec sheets, mock up videos, presantation at the CES. Acer went out and flat out said, we can't compete with apple on this segment, period, they didn't try to fool anyone or be dishonest...
Anyway webos my palm, is a good piece o software, it might save them from the horror o running windows 7 on a tablet. Good choice to buy palm. Vital.
The Gizmoron article *has* to be the funniest addition to this farce, especially given current events:
http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet
"Courier is a real device, and we've heard that it's in the "late prototype" stage of development."
I guess they meant the other meaning of the word "late".
The best thing they had come up with in their 30 years . . . happens to be vaporware.
B-b-but hey! Windows 7 is still pretty good.
This is so comical, trust ms to embarrass themselves at least once a month... what a sad joke of company they are...
chatin
macrumors 6502a
Just proof of concept at this point
Competitors so some soul searching and discover they ain't up to the task. I'm talking about the wannabees, H.P. (Linux based WebOS) and The Vole (Microsoft). Like a one night stand, both look away from the other's product embarrassingly. Both have an iPad killer OS (in the works)
Some free advice for these copycats - Don't steal anything and a fresh Linux distro is preferable to buying someone's dirty laundry.
Competitors so some soul searching and discover they ain't up to the task. I'm talking about the wannabees, H.P. (Linux based WebOS) and The Vole (Microsoft). Like a one night stand, both look away from the other's product embarrassingly. Both have an iPad killer OS (in the works)
Some free advice for these copycats - Don't steal anything and a fresh Linux distro is preferable to buying someone's dirty laundry.
LagunaSol
macrumors 601
Wasn't this also said to be a pet project of J (The Microsoft Artist Formerly Known as James) Allard? Has anything that guy ever touched turned into a profitable (or in this case, actual) product?
How can a guy make so much money consistently losing so much money for the company he works for?
It's an odd, odd world.
How can a guy make so much money consistently losing so much money for the company he works for?
It's an odd, odd world.
kernkraft
macrumors 68020
Well, we in Europe (like the rest of the world, outside of the US) are still waiting for the iPad. How are those iPad 3Gs?
Actually, it's 'don'wannabe iPods'.
*LTD*
macrumors G4
Well, we in Europe (like the rest of the world, outside of the US) are still waiting for the iPad. How are those iPad 3Gs?
Well we know Microsoft and HP think they're awesome, if that's any consolation!
squinks808
macrumors newbie
was anyone expecting anything different with these so-called "iPad Killers" what a joke
kernkraft
macrumors 68020
Have they got their hands on some in a German bar? The 3G iPads are not out yet.
The Gizmoron article *has* to be the funniest addition to this farce, especially given current events:
http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet
"Courier is a real device, and we've heard that it's in the "late prototype" stage of development."
I guess they meant the other meaning of the word "late".
The best thing they had come up with in their 30 years . . . happens to be vaporware.
B-b-but hey! Windows 7 is still pretty good.
You still haven't got an iPad, have you? I assume, you don't use Windows 7 either, yet you keep posting pretty nasty stuff about MS and Windows in general.
I wrote "apparently", because I only use OS X, but colleagues and the tech press say good things about Windows 7.
azurehi
macrumors regular
anyone hear of the Notion Ink Adam?
http://www.liliputing.com/2010/04/tablet-news-roundup-icd-gemini-handled-notion-ink-adam-adding-flash.html
http://www.liliputing.com/2010/04/tablet-news-roundup-icd-gemini-handled-notion-ink-adam-adding-flash.html
actually, he probably does already work there...
I'm not seeing this in other posts, but the big story I see here is that HP now has its own OS and no longer beholden to MS.
MS simply stopped working on this project with HP because HP are now MS's competition in that emerging space with their newly acquired Palm OS. HP has just taken an industry-changing step to become a hardware + their own OS company, just like Apple. HP will release a new tablet sooner or later, it just won't have a Microsoft OS on it.
This is a massive split in the Microsoft hegemony. Especially if the tablet/mobile computing market gains share at the expense of desktops and laptops. One of MS's biggest hardware bases is going its own way now with its own OS in the emerging market. And probably just the first of more to come. What will Dell do now, follow suit? It's a game-changer.
MS simply stopped working on this project with HP because HP are now MS's competition in that emerging space with their newly acquired Palm OS. HP has just taken an industry-changing step to become a hardware + their own OS company, just like Apple. HP will release a new tablet sooner or later, it just won't have a Microsoft OS on it.
This is a massive split in the Microsoft hegemony. Especially if the tablet/mobile computing market gains share at the expense of desktops and laptops. One of MS's biggest hardware bases is going its own way now with its own OS in the emerging market. And probably just the first of more to come. What will Dell do now, follow suit? It's a game-changer.
applesupergeek
macrumors 6502a
I just mentioned this a few posts above. Agree 100%.
Well, we in Europe (like the rest of the world, outside of the US) are still waiting for the iPad. How are those iPad 3Gs?
Even when the predictions of vapourware proved to be spot on (and I and a few else were very vocal about them, saying no one at the moment stands a chance in outdoing apple in quality, and most of all price), pc apologists have to just make another last resort moronic comment. Of course now the apple side is going to enjoy their great ipads, and the pc side is stuck with old brick tablets and crap netbooks, it's so hard for them to stomach that. I will derive so much contentment to go over at that moronic site engadget and see them weep, solely because of the repeated trash talk they do on apple.
So, to respond to your post directly, both the ipad will come very soon to europe, and a lot of Europeans have already purchased it via bundlebox. Heck the Norwegian pm has one. Because these "large iphones" (which reminds me of the countless idiotic posting here before the ipad's announcement on not seeing the point of such a device) are selling like hotcakes and apple is doing their best to meet such a high demand.
So my condolences, to the pc side. On the plus side they ll have much more time to copy apple (again) while they moan and groan about the missing features of the ipad.
Condolences to MS too, who were a bit slow to realise what an absolutely crap idea a dual screen foldable, half tablet, half notebook, and neither of this, ultimately was. It can't be made slim enough, portable enough, it can't have one decent sized screen because it cuts the screen in too... almost all of the time, the second screen being useless and adding weight, as well as draining battery. Yet the engadget's of this world were touting this as a big paradigm shift. In the trash can now, where it already belonged. I keep hearing MS have a lot of smart people working for them but it's just Balmers horrible leadership and their corporate climate that spoils it. I have been in time convinced that they might have some really clever and creative people there, but on the whole, they are a bunch of morons.
applesupergeek
macrumors 6502a
Hahaha too funny, I heard a barman did find it and threw it in the bin thinking it was some chinese knock off crap.
Apparently engadget have contacted the appropriate garbage collection agencies, and are currently involved with their full staff on it, on going through a few tonnes of garbage to locate it and present it to their readers. They had the trash sent over by a courier to make things a tad quicker. Their offices stink real bad, but they reckon it's worth it. Good luck to them with that.
HiRez
macrumors 603
Neither. Joo Joo. Although as craptastic as it is, at least I'll give them credit for actually shipping something (kind of).
cmaier
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HP has had their own hardware+OS for years. In fact, for a long time they had their own microprocessors (PA-RISC), their own workstations, and their own OS (HP UX). They've also had other OS's, of course (including their calculators, etc.)
kernkraft
macrumors 68020
Wow, you might want to check Macrumors' rule about personal insults being punishable with instant ban. Hopefully, some people WILL report your unnecessary ranting. I don't think that this kind of a simplistic and hurtful dirt-throwing is what Macrumors needs.
I certainly don't, and since some of the insult was directly aimed at me, I demand an apology.
From how you see the world, I obviously belong to the "pc side". Meanwhile, in my office, there is no PC at all, but Macs only and a couple of other Apple hardware items. I'm not making guesses about your personal circumstances and bedroom setups, but I have to say that you sound very immature.
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cmaier
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Easy to ship something if you don't have to wait until it's actually finished.
Richard Kimball
macrumors newbie
Balmer and Co. pushed that demo out the door to try and make an impression that they weren't copying Apple with their Slate. I still got a kick out of Balmer using Frogger to demo the gaming capability.
As to the Courier, even in the demos it didn't look like it would do anything other than copy, paste, and do some MS Paint stuff. Handwriting recognition is tricky. I haven't seen it implemented well anywhere.
cmaier
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Remember MS has a history of tech demos. They always happen right when some other competitor is about to release something cool. Then MS eventually productizes the thing without any of the cool stuff from the demos. This is no different than what MS has done for decades.
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
That's a nice setup. I have a huge folding table in my room right now until I build a new computer desk. I have a spare tower running Ubuntu 10.04, my MacBook, and my Windows 7 tower on the desk.
LagunaSol
macrumors 601
Uh oh, out come the "Look, I own Macs!" photos!
Really? His saying "PC apologists" is hurtful?
Wow. You should check out a Windows user forum sometime and see what they say about Mac users.
I've seen comments on this forum that "demanded an apology," but I don't see that anywhere in his comment that you quoted (and I assume it's the red text that got you agitated). I don't see any personal attacks on you. And what's wrong with a little colorful anti-Microsoft derision? Heaven knows we see plenty of anti-Apple derision around here (though I've not seen you complain about that).
What's the big deal?
Really? His saying "PC apologists" is hurtful?
Wow. You should check out a Windows user forum sometime and see what they say about Mac users.
I've seen comments on this forum that "demanded an apology," but I don't see that anywhere in his comment that you quoted (and I assume it's the red text that got you agitated). I don't see any personal attacks on you. And what's wrong with a little colorful anti-Microsoft derision? Heaven knows we see plenty of anti-Apple derision around here (though I've not seen you complain about that).
What's the big deal?