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Huh??? Sure. Lots of books out there with multi-color ink. Almost choked laughing at that one.

Before you choke to your death, can you expand why the pointless arrogance?

With matte colour screens, these devices can be used with pdfs, emails, for web browsing and so on.
 
I don't think the iPad will soak up too many Kindle owners. It's still far better for that purpose than the iPad given the price and the lack of contract for 3G.

Yes, but the iPad effectively killed off the Kindle DX as Bezos and co. are now furiously trying to come up with either color e-ink (not ready yet) or switch from e-ink to an acceptable lcd.

It also hurt them badly since they were looking to increase margins with the much more expensive DX... now they either have to have a seperate kindle e-ink vs. big kindle lcd or ... I don't know.

Apple really did drink Amazon's milkshake here.
 
Well Amazon I think is making the right move on the Kindle. As a reading device it is by far better than the iPad screen. Also I think is Amazon is happy as long as Kindle is breaking even. They are really trying to make money off selling Ebooks so those go to everyone with the app. Kindle owners are going to buy a lot more eBooks than everyone else. Plan and simple.

As for the Dell Streak Mini-Tablet/Phone I honestly think it is a pretty good product and is targeting a nitch market. It is for people who are need a good comuncation tool with Email, and accessing docs and what not with the company and still need a phone on it. The iPad is a little large for that and standard phone is just a little small. The Streak is designed for a very nitch market and what it is designed for is great.

You just have to remember it is not going head to head with the iPhone or iPad. It is more going inbetween. It is a mobile computer with a phone added in. Tell you the truth I think it was a pretty good idea. No it is not something I would use as I like my blackberry but then again I would not be wanting to use my phone for what the streak is designed for.

Hell in my book the Streak is a great example of the power of Android. It allows phones to be made for nitch markets instead of people in those areas trying to make due with what is out there.
 
Dell Streak = thick lump of black plastic
Kindle = one trick pony

Apple must be sleeping soundly.

Apple are sleeping very well with this announcement - this will last less than 12 months if that - what a waste of R&D time and money.
 
They should have named it the Dell Shart;

"Forced out too quickly, with unappealing results: the Shart"

Lollipop lollipop, ooh la la...
 
After this fails, Dell will have to just shut their doors and give the money back to their shareholders.

cheers
JohnG
 
Apple are sleeping very well with this announcement - this will last less than 12 months if that - what a waste of R&D time and money.

The Kindle is by now an afterthought, totally eclipsed by the iPad. You snooze, you lose.

And, true to form, Dell released yet another hunk of uninspiring junk-ware. I'm beginning to think Michael Dell actually enjoys the constant derision and embarrassment.
 
I actually don't get it at all. It's too big to be a phone, too small to be useful as an internet/reading device, IMO. The screen in the EVO 4G looks amazing, but even then I believe it's going a bit too far. A cellphone is a cellphone, come on!

Right.. a cellphone is a cellphone.. I mean who needs these fancy web/multimedia/e-reading capabilities. We should all just get ourselves a RAZR and call it a day!
 
Apple are sleeping very well with this announcement - this will last less than 12 months if that - what a waste of R&D time and money.

Actually, Apple has been sleeping for the last 12 months as well.. with the exception of occasional App Store rejection. All while Google has been actively innovating with the Android, and leaving Apple's iPhoneOS in the dust.
 
Streak? Isn't that what you get if you don't wipe properly?

@hitekalex: How much does google pay you per hour? Have you actually compared app stores? Where are the games? Where are the commercial apps? Where are the decent screenshots? The Android marketplace has a long way to go before it is competition for the Apple App store.
 
@hitekalex: How much does google pay you per hour? Have you actually compared app stores? Where are the games? Where are the commercial apps? Where are the decent screenshots? The Android marketplace has a long way to go before it is competition for the Apple App store.

Yep, I have used iPhone for 2.5 years and have concluded that I don't need 100,000 apps with 15,000 tip calculators, 10,000 flashlight apps, and 300 fart apps to be useful in my daily life. Android Market is full of high quality apps, and more are added every day.

Now tell me.. where in Apple App Store can I find Google Voice? Wireless Sync apps? Tethering apps? Widgets? Browsers supporting Flash? Nowhere? Well.. hope the latest release of iFart is working out well for you!
 
The Kindle is by now an afterthought, totally eclipsed by the iPad. You snooze, you lose.

And, true to form, Dell released yet another hunk of uninspiring junk-ware. I'm beginning to think Michael Dell actually enjoys the constant derision and embarrassment.


I don't think an apple employee who is paid to post positive info on macrumors, could have said it any better.
 
I don't think an apple employee who is paid to post positive info on macrumors, could have said it any better.


Again, myrice, layoffs in your department at Adobe? Is that what brought you here? Nothing but constant whining about video formats. Fuggettaboutit.
 
I don't know folks... If this new Dell "Streak" brings to market the same cutting edge product development in the tablet space as Dell brought to the MP3 player space with their "DJ" line once it was obvious that Apple had a hit on their hands with the iPod we could be in for some real competition ;)

Seriously - this thing has "fail" written all over it. Dell has had exactly 1 innovation in the 25 odd years they have been around; lower price points as a result of the direct to user business model. No offence as they do that one thing fairly well but innovating on a tablet device - well that's just not going to happen...
 
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The streak makes no sense. It's a smartphone that's slightly too large for a pocket and doesn't make calls. Once you've passed pocket-sized, you might as well go for something bigger, like an ipad. I think this space between a smartphone and an ipad that Dell describes just doesn't exist.
 
The streak makes no sense. It's a smartphone that's slightly too large for a pocket and doesn't make calls. Once you've passed pocket-sized, you might as well go for something bigger, like an ipad. I think this space between a smartphone and an ipad that Dell describes just doesn't exist.


It makes alot of sense for people who want a choice and do not want someone else deciding how you use and what you use a dvice for. Most people would love the ability to play different formatted videos instead of being forced to use what apple allows you to use. Plenty of people want a device that is open instead of the walled garden ot the apple store.
 
Con? Full of ourselves, aren't we? Poor lemmings conned themselves. Yes, iPad is just a large Touch the same way laptops are just compact iMacs.

Can't you read?

News flash: The laptop came before the iMac with laptop parts.

It makes alot of sense for people who want a choice and do not want someone else deciding how you use and what you use a dvice for. Most people would love the ability to play different formatted videos instead of being forced to use what apple allows you to use. Plenty of people want a device that is open instead of the walled garden ot the apple store.

True, but As QCassidy says Dell really did miss the mark. It should have been a 7" - 9" tablet. They already have an OS that's touted as being better than the iPhone OS, all they needed to do was put the right hardware and design behind it.
 
Well Amazon I think is making the right move on the Kindle. As a reading device it is by far better than the iPad screen. Also I think is Amazon is happy as long as Kindle is breaking even. They are really trying to make money off selling Ebooks so those go to everyone with the app. Kindle owners are going to buy a lot more eBooks than everyone else. Plan and simple.

Oh do get real. Bezos is a Wall Street trader turned book seller. His tech cred is based entirely on what he's read about Jobs and Gates doing for real. Make no mistake, Amazon not only wanted to make money from Kindle sales, they absolutely needed to. They haven't, therefore the experiment has failed.

The idea that any product that's cost as much money to design and develop, launch [and relaunch] and market, as the Kindle must have, could be allowed to simply break even is pathetic. There's no way margins on ebooks could be enough to warrant the dev costs alone, never mind sustain a viable business model... unless your name is Gates or Ballmer and the name of the game is producing loss making Apple/Sony/Nintendo spoilers.

How do we know this? Because when Apple released the iPad, it had many many more functions and uses than the Kindle, sold for more [at what we know will be a healthy margin], AND had links to four other revenue streams for Apple [apps, music, books, films] plus whatever business specific apps are developed, as well as the kick-backs from carriers.

Now, that's a sustainable business model. Compare that even with what Bezos planned for the Kindle, and it's obvious that they're not in the same ball park. But, more importantly, for this reply to your comment, Apple's model represents an overall revenue and profit multiple somewhere in the order of at least 10!

No, the only way Kindle can survive is as a novelty device for luddites. However, the model won't sustain a longevity sufficient to still be around when colour eink finally arrives.
 
Oh do get real. Bezos is a Wall Street trader turned book seller. His tech cred is based entirely on what he's read about Jobs and Gates doing for real. Make no mistake, Amazon not only wanted to make money from Kindle sales, they absolutely needed to. They haven't, therefore the experiment has failed.

The idea that any product that's cost as much money to design and develop, launch [and relaunch] and market, as the Kindle must have, could be allowed to simply break even is pathetic. There's no way margins on ebooks could be enough to warrant the dev costs alone, never mind sustain a viable business model... unless your name is Gates or Ballmer and the name of the game is producing loss making Apple/Sony/Nintendo spoilers.

How do we know this? Because when Apple released the iPad, it had many many more functions and uses than the Kindle, sold for more [at what we know will be a healthy margin], AND had links to four other revenue streams for Apple [apps, music, books, films] plus whatever business specific apps are developed, as well as the kick-backs from carriers.

Now, that's a sustainable business model. Compare that even with what Bezos planned for the Kindle, and it's obvious that they're not in the same ball park. But, more importantly, for this reply to your comment, Apple's model represents an overall revenue and profit multiple somewhere in the order of at least 10!

No, the only way Kindle can survive is as a novelty device for luddites. However, the model won't sustain a longevity sufficient to still be around when colour eink finally arrives.

As an ereader, the iPad is just good enough; it really isn't quite as good as the Kindle for reading (there are enough people who have problems reading LCDs for extended periods that they consist of a substantial market; and, of course, for outdoors, the iPad just can't match up).

But the iPad really eats the Kindle's lunch as an allround internet/reader; as long as it's good enough for people to read for an hour at a time, it'll do OK.
 
I don't get it...?

I don't see why people don't think this qualifies as a tablet? It's 5 freaking inches, way more portable than an iPad.

Hopefully you all don't think iPad is the first and last "true" tablet.
 
I don't see why people don't think this qualifies as a tablet? It's 5 freaking inches, way more portable than an iPad.

Hopefully you all don't think iPad is the first and last "true" tablet.

Naw, there will be more tablets and such, and many of us do think the 5" Streak is a tablet, just not where the product should be.

The Streak just misses the mark because of the screen size, especially with 4.3" Android phones a plenty, and many phones and devices with higher resolutions.
 
Its nice to see some variation on the now endlessly reproduced 4" design. I will watch this with interest! It will probably fall on its arse but who knows, i personally feel the iPhone would be much nicer if it were ~4.5".

To all those people saying the pixel density will be crap at 160ppi, remember that the iPhone 3GS currently has a comprable resolution (163 ppi). The iPad at 9.7" works out at a much lower density of 132 ppi, over a larger physical screen. To be honest, anything over 120ppi is going to look very crisp even to young eyes and the larger the physical size, the less resolution becomes important.

I would also be ***** amazed if the iPhone 4G/HD/4 turned out to have a 960 x 480 pixel display - as are most people who have an interest in screens - it wouldn't look any better than a droid/nexus one or similar phone as the eye can't see that much detail and it would suck power by putting more load on the processor - and apple have consistently focused on power optimization over raw hardware power. Some sort of 720-800 pixel length seems far more likely. The only benefit would be a 1:4 pixel scaling algorithm could be used for legacy apps but I suspect apple will figure out some other way of running older apps on the screen.
 
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