Now if you want to control your music, you've got to swipe to access things that used to be on one page. Or if you're on the music pane and you want to do anything else, you've got to swipe the other way. Drives me crazy.
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iPad ignored in iOS 10
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Now if you want to control your music, you've got to swipe to access things that used to be on one page. Or if you're on the music pane and you want to do anything else, you've got to swipe the other way. Drives me crazy.
Yes it is -iOS 9 had the functionality of having all of the control centre on one screen, now you have to connately swipe between two panes, loosing that functionality.
I call it functionality to to have access to all controls on one screen without swiping. Apple have for whatever stupid reason removed that without allowing control centre to do anything more - they have removed that functionality.
It perhaps would better be described as loss of convenience, but that doesn't preclude it from being a loss of functionally.
It's not a loss of functionality. If you want to define functionality like that I could just as easily say it's gaining functionality, since there's another panel. Neither would be correct. It'd the same functionality, accessed differently.
As for the "apple changed it without allowing it to do more", that's also untrue. If you use Home there's a 3rd panel. I guess God like that jammed in there too
Well whatever if you want to play semantics than go ahead.
Ignoring home (since many will not use it just yet), Apple made control centre in iOS 10 more cumbersome to carry out things that were simpler on iOS 9, without adding the sort of functionality that many have wanted for ages. It is a complete waste of space on the iPad, goes to show how little Apple bothers with the iPad. I mean the space wastage is more than apparent on an iPad Mini, It would be laughably hopeless on an iPad Pro 12.9.
You can't just ignore facts because they're inconvient to your argument. You can't say functionality is gone when it isn't. Well, you can but it makes it difficult to take you seriously.
I guess it all depends on what you define as functionality. I call having all settings on one screen a type of functionality. Again semantics.
I'll change my argument, iOS 10's control centre is a waste of space on the iPad - laughably so, adds no functionality related to splitting the two screens (eg they could have added the sort of functionality to justify the loss of convenience).
Adding home is all well and good, but the number of people who will actually use that is so limited and I don't think it justifies making accessing the music or general controls more difficult.
It's reduced convenience at very least for anyone who prefers one step to brightness or volume settings. Also the horizontal dragging action is now overloaded, since it both swipes panes and adjusts sliders on the panes. In practice this is frequently causing me to switch panes when I'm trying to adjust sliders, which leads to things taking even longer.
That surprises me. The panes have to be moved over halfway before they show over, otherwise they immediately slide back. Would've thought you'd notice before travelling 50% of the panels width. Definitely not something that's affected me but I am to be able to hit the slider or panel that I'm aiming for somehow. Did you frequently miss the slider in previous versions?
Do you also have frequent problems hitting sliders in iOS? Have you tried some of the assistive technologies?
Why would I need assistive technologies? I don't have a problem hitting sliders, but when the area around the slider is also used to switch between panes and I often adjust brightness at night or when I wake up, its very easy to slide, which wasn't a problem in iOS 9 because Apple made much better use of the space.
I can't resolve these two things. Stevemiller said the feature is "frequently causing me to change panes" which explicitly says that he frequently missed the hit target of a standard iOS slider control. You quoted that and said "same with me". Now ycontrol you don't have a problem hitting sliders. What are people to make of this?
Maybe you can brush it off as me "playing with semantics" again when I ask you to account for the things that you write.
Yes Apple is so perfect, every single issue must be down to user error or disability or something. I have never had issues with iOS sliders before, I do now with iOS 10. I think we all sometimes miss a slider now and again, doesn't mean "We have issues with missing sliders". Control centre in iOS 10 is just far more sensitive.
How about the new control centre is prone to swapping panes when people try and adjust the sliders - I've read numerous other people who have the same issue.
Maybe you can back off with the aggression.
Standard Issue Strawman. Never said anything of the kind.
We do. We're all human. That's a long way from "frequently causing ... changing panes", isn't it?
I still think it's really quite difficult. Like I said, you have to move 50% of the screen width to do this. It requires quite a feat of mal-coordination to move half an iPhone or especially an iPad screen without correcting imo
No aggression in my posts whatsoever. Feel free to report them if you disagree.
Well yes actually, refusal to accept that Apple may have issued a crap design and suggesting user error to cover.
Exactly, thus this is not a user error.
On my phone its as easy as a quick flick or a slight slide.
You're running these posts like its some sort of legal inquisition. Feels quite aggressive.
I will do so, though its more likely down to the nature of the stupid two pane control panel more than anything else.
I don't recall commenting on the quality of the design? Since you've made another claim, maybe you back this one up? Care to do so? As for suggesting user error, two posters said they frequently have issues operating a standard iOS slider control, one that's present throughout the ui and has been since it
was iPhone OS. This seems odd to me. People of all ages, 2 to 90 seem capable of operating these these controls without comment or issue.
Exactly what? Exactly your revised position, sometimes missing a slider, is a long way from frequently changing panes? Now we're on the same page.
"legal inquisition"? "Agressive"? No. You said things that are contrary to my experience and I asked you to explain them. Any feeling of inquisition is on your end.
You're suggesting I'm not capable of using a slider, when I am perfectly able to, to deflect any sort of blame away from Apple. Its as clear as day.
Nup. Two posters suggested that due to the new design, using the slider often changed panes. Neither of us said "We have issues using sliders", because most likely we don't.
We're not on the same page.
In iOS 10, using the sliders often results in a pane change. Would not be an issue if Apple hadn't made a stupid decision to waste space and split up control centre. I've NEVER had an issue with control centre EVER in terms of sliders. There are multiple posts on this forum with users having similar issues.
There you go again. I did explain them you just decided to blame users for Apple's poor design choice.
No. As you say yourself
You really can't have it both ways. You only change panes if you miss the slider. Is that not correct? Please tell me how you "often" change pane operating a slider if you don't "often" miss. You can't.
As for your final paragraph, a flailing "you asked me a question I don't want to answer so you must be some apple lover" isn't and never was a compelling argument. I note that you declined to point out exactly where, in your words, I "refused to accept apple had a crap design".
You and another post said you frequently change panes. You can only do so by missing the slider.
Wow. was it not you that I had a previous issue with taking the most ridiculous interpretation of my issue to somehow discredit my complaint?
I don't have to switch all the way to the next pane to be inconvenienced by my input being interpreted the wrong way, which is what is happening. I'm not "missing" the target. The slider input target is either too small to be useful (which is ridiculous in itself given that the main point of splitting into multiple panes was to make things less cluttered and therefore larger, easier to hit targets), or the input target for the pane switching is straight up overriding it, even if you do hit it.
Anyway, if you want to dissect it further into how you think its really user error and not a design flaw, have fun. i've said my piece and filed my bug and don't really care whether you think i'm wrong.