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I completely disagree with this statement. 'Tablet Mode' in Windows 10 is a joke.

So, you disagree that Windows 10 is not good at all?

Obviously your entitled to your opinion, but I "think" Windows 10 has made great strides compared to Windows 8.

I'm on Windows 10 Preview and call it what you want, I think its pretty good. I'm rooting for Microsoft. A better Microsoft product in the end makes a better Apple product.
 
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So, you disagree that Windows 10 is not good at all?

Obviously your entitled to your opinion, but I "think" Windows 10 has made great strides compared to Windows 8.

I'm on Windows 10 Preview and call it what you want, I think its pretty good. I'm rooting for Microsoft. A better Microsoft product in the end makes a better Apple product.

Windows 10 is an excellent OS.... If you're on a laptop or desktop. On a tablet, like the Surface, it blows chunks.

I'll clarify that my issue is with the UI and not the underlying OS.

"Tablet Mode" in Windows 10 should just be called "Alternate Launcher Mode" because it does nothing to make Windows touch-friendly. The whole UI is CLEARLY designed for a mouse (while Windows 8 was designed for touch).

I'd be much happier if Tablet Mode basically switched the UI back to Windows 8.1.
 
For every thread regarding the iPad Pro not being a "pro" device:

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And sometimes i feel when people who put these images dont really understand why others are complaining...
 
And sometimes i feel when people who put these images dont really understand why others are complaining...
I feel that the people who complain have legitimate concerns and frustrations, but they are missing the forest for the trees.

I continue to believe that the the iPad will be the future of mobile computing. However, it will take some time to get there, and until we do, many people who wish that they could do more on their iPads will continue to be frustrated and disappointed.

The Surface Pro makes a great interim measure because it runs a desktop OS and desktop software which we are familiar with. However, I don't believe for a moment that the Surface Pro represents the future. It's the present at best.

So in a way, neither side is wrong, but neither side is seeing the full picture either, IMO.
 
Agreed that your workflow is inefficient. Starting with shooting raw, and then trying to use the iPad like a traditional workstation. I'm not at all surprised that you're frustrated.

Clearly the intended workflow is to import all your jpegs (either via camera connection kit or wi-fi), with iCloud Photos turned on. Then you simply pull them straight from iCloud to your mac, or use the share sheet to publish, email, or store in other cloud services.

I said 'jpegs' because editing 25MB raws is the very definition of a scientific/professional fringe use case, something a desktop os and laptop with legacy ports can handle with ease. And I don't see anything in Apple's iOS 10 preview website that even mentions raw. I would be very surprised if that's the direction they wanted to go in, because a) it's only a tiny fraction of all people taking photos, and b) people who shoot raw are either fussy OCD amateur hobbyists, or actual paid professionals... and Apple will NEVER satisfy either group with ANY iPad. It's a fool's errand.

With that argument, the iPad will never replace a desktop or laptop.
 
With that argument, the iPad will never replace a desktop or laptop.

You assume, wrongly, that "replace" means 1:1 function for function, workflow for workflow. The iPad already has replaced desktops and notebooks for many people by being a new take on computing, with a new workflow paradigm. It shouldn't replicate legacy computing.
 
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I agree 100%. If the new 9.7" model had just been called the Air 3 there would be far fewer complaints about it. People need to understand that "Pro" is just a marketing term. An iPad is still an iPad, for better or for worse.

The fact that it is $100 more is neither here nor there, obviously.
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You assume, wrongly, that "replace" means 1:1 function for function, workflow for workflow. The iPad already has replaced desktops and notepads for many people by being a new take on computing, with a new workflow paradigm. It shouldn't replicate legacy computing.

Either it replaces Macs or it doesn't.

It doesn't.
 
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The fact that it is $100 more is neither here nor there, obviously.
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It's all part of the marketing. "Pro" means people will feel that Apple is justified in charging more. Whether it actually does more is hardly important. Consumers are easy to manipulate with the right branding and buzz words.
 
It's all part of the marketing. "Pro" means people will feel that Apple is justified in charging more. Whether it actually does more is hardly important. Consumers are easy to manipulate with the right branding and buzz words.

If the better screen, camera, four speaker stereo sound, and Apple Pencil support aren't important to you, it's not worth the extra money. But it's a long way from being simply "marketing".
 
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If the better screen, camera, four speaker stereo sound, and Apple Pencil support aren't important to you, it's not worth the extra money. But it's a long way from being simply "marketing".

Every subsequent iPad/iPhone offers more and better features. They don't, however, typically go up in price $100 each year. But it's okay this time because it's a "Pro" device. :rolleyes:

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Don't get me wrong, if you like it and value those features you should definitely buy and enjoy. A good product is a good product. But let's be honest about the marketing games that Apple (and all other companies) play.
 
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Every subsequent iPad/iPhone offers more and better features. They don't, however, typically go up in price $100 each year. But it's okay this time because it's a "Pro" device. :rolleyes:

*Edit to add*
Don't get me wrong, if you like it and value those features you should definitely buy and enjoy. A good product is a good product. But let's be honest about the marketing games that Apple (and all other companies) play.

Kinda agree with this. Even though I love my 12.9" iPad Pro, I do agree that the price is difficult to justify. I think it is a hard sell for most people. I think at current prices, 4 GB RAM and 64 GB/ 128 GB storage should be the minimum across both the 9.7" & 12.9" iPad Pro. The smart cover price is seriously ridiculous as well. I'm not suggesting that Apple should go for android/ windows pricing. Just that I think the current prices is too much for what it offers

As someone who uses a PC, Macbook & iPad on a daily basis, I can honestly say that the iPad is my favourite. It's a pity that the price will probably mean that most people will not give the "Pro" iPads a chance.
 
It's not so cut and dry. What if it does everything you used to do on your Mac, except for one or two things? So you used to spend hours in front of your Mac every day, but now you only use your Mac a few times a week.

then it means that it doesnt replace mac.

and the "it doesnt" is still valid.
 
then it means that it doesnt replace mac.

and the "it doesnt" is still valid.

The thing is, if I have a 5 year old Mac that I use every day, I'd be looking to buy a replacement soon. But a 5 year old Mac that I use only once a week -- I'm just going to keep using it. Paying for a new Mac that I know I won't use that often doesn't make sense.

So even if iPad isn't a total replacement for the Mac, it delays my purchase of a new Mac. Maybe by the time my Mac is ten years old, iPads really will be able to 100% replace Macs. Maybe a lot of us have already bought our last desktop/laptop computers, and we just don't know it yet.
 
then it means that it doesnt replace mac.

and the "it doesnt" is still valid.
That would mean that you'd solely use the Mac which you don't so "it doesn't" is not valid. That would be your own logic applied in opposite direction ;)

It depends on how you look at it. Does it fully replace a Mac? For some it will but for most it won't. Does it partly replace a Mac? Yes because some people will now use the iPad where they would have used the Mac. Peoples workflows are slowly transferred from Mac to iPad and/or iPhone.
 
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The thing is, if I have a 5 year old Mac that I use every day, I'd be looking to buy a replacement soon. But a 5 year old Mac that I use only once a week -- I'm just going to keep using it. Paying for a new Mac that I know I won't use that often doesn't make sense.

So even if iPad isn't a total replacement for the Mac, it delays my purchase of a new Mac. Maybe by the time my Mac is ten years old, iPads really will be able to 100% replace Macs. Maybe a lot of us have already bought our last desktop/laptop computers, and we just don't know it yet.

I just went in the opposite direction. After trying to go iPad-only on a recent trip, I bought a new lightweight laptop. I shoot a lot RAW images and video and found the iPad to be inadequate for any real backup and/or processing of the many GBs of data per day. I wanted to give the iPad a shot as I didn't want to lug my older, heavy laptop around; now I have a 13" Dell XPS 13 with QHD display and it works great for my travel needs.
 
That would mean that you'd solely use the Mac which you don't so "it doesn't" is not valid. That would be your own logic applied in opposite direction ;)

No.

If item1 doesnt replace item2 you can still use item1 and item2, but cannot rely only on item1.

item1 is ipad and item2 is mac for example.

If some (like you have already seen them many) asks "can ipad replace mac?", are you going to give an aswer "yes, it will replace mac from monday to saturday, but not on sunday."

Yeah, i understand that you can do some of the same things with your ipad than you do with your mac, eg browsing and hence think about "replacing" mac when browsing...
 
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Yeah, i understand that you can do some of the same things with your ipad than you do with your mac, eg browsing and hence think about "replacing" mac when browsing...

I used to browse on my desktop computer, because that was the only device I had capable of performing that function. In hindsight, that was like using a truck to drive to the grocery store. A desktop computer is way overkill for simple browsing, and you are tied to your desk whenever you want to browse. An iPad lets you browse anywhere you can find a seat, and even while standing up, in a pinch. So while you have a point that you can't rely on the iPad for every task that we use a Mac for, for the things that iPad does better than desktop computers, I equally don't want to go back to doing them on desktops. If I could have only one device, it would probably have to be a desktop. But I'd be fighting tooth and nail to figure out a way to make iPad my one device, and would probably be willing to give up doing some of the things I now do on a desktop if that meant I could keep my iPad. I just no longer want to "rely" on a desktop -- having to rely on a desktop makes me feel tied down.
 
Even on the iPad mini I'm testing on (Main iPad is an iPad 2 so no go there), iOS 10 is such a huge space waster. Nothing screams it more so than the new control centre - it actually reduced functionality.. I can not believe that despite splitting it across two pages they couldn't add in more utility, or a user customisable panel to the left.
 
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