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tablets have always been a fad, coming and going. Been like this for years, even before capacative/multi touch screens and such.

I got rid of my iPad mini because my 6+ did everything faster and better, and if i need to do actual work I just use my nMP. No need for a superfluous 3rd device to fill in the non-existent grey area between a phone (which gets more and more capable each year) and a traditional computer
 
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we have 7 iPads between the 4 of us, haven't bought a new one in 2 years though... for movies and games they just don't need upgrading for the kids, still have a gen 1 iPad for movies, it works just fine and is bulletproof.
 
I'm not going back through 11 pages, but the reasons why the tablet will ever replace a PC for me are simple. It doesn't do anything better than my phone, laptops, and desktop and does a lot of things worse.

Touchscreen keyboards are useless for any kind of extended typing and a tablet does not include a keyboard. Yes, you can buy one. But they are never as good as the keyboards on my laptops for extended typing. Plus, it's additional cost to get back functionality a laptop provides anyway.

Portability isn't really any better with a tablet. If I need something with me all the time, I have my phone because it fits in my pocket, but tablets don't. If I want to bring a tablet, I need a bag or backpack. If I'm bringing one of those, I can just put a laptop in it.

Tablets don't offer the array of ports that my laptops do. I like to use a USB mouse and often need to use a USB drive as well. I'm sure there are USB hubs I could buy for the tablets that actually include a USB port or I could buy a bluetooth mouse, but again, that's more stuff to buy just to make the tablet do what a laptop already can. Touchscreens are frustrating on anything, and I tolerate them on my phone only because it can fit in my pocket. A trackpad or trackpoint is much better.

On top of this, the hardware is locked down to the point where I can't run the OS I want. Most tablets don't stand up on their own, so I'd need a stand if I wanted to sit it on a desk and type on an external keyboard. A laptop will do everything I mentioned without the need to buy extra accessories and assemble the thing every time I want to use it. There are literally no advantages to a tablet for me.

YMMV.
 
Before my MacBook Pro died yesterday my iPad was basically a really expensive video player. I'm stuck using it for home computing tasks until I get my laptop repaired and it's not a bad experience. Is the ideal experience, though? No. I see the utility for different people and sectors but as a primary computing device? It'll never be that in it's current iteration.

A larger iPad could be interesting but, keep this in mind, why would they release a 12-inch iPad with a keyboard dock/case/whatever running iOS when it would directly compete and cannibalize the newly released MacBook? There's no reason for both in the line-up. You want an iPad with a keyboard? Get the MacBook. You want a touchscreen device? Get the iPad. There is no reason for Apple to muddle up their lineup with that device.


I suspect it will be a pressure sensitive pen enabled device for artists and designers. That will be its main target audience and possibly a few other tricks,
 
Like the Surface... how is it doing?

Lol,
1) the Suface is NOT a PowerPoint ONLY machine
2) the Surface is doing horrid
3) did you have a point, or just wanted an opportunity to be sheepishly shown how pointless your post was?
 
To say that iPad's market share is below 25% is disingenuous.

Last time I looked, its share of web browsing was in the region of 90%. That, to me, is a much more accurate reflection of its long-term market share.

Don't forget... market share specifically measures new sales/shipments over a 3 month period.

They add up all the sales/shipments in the entire tablet market... then they see how many came from each manufacturer.

They said 44,700,000 tablet were shipped/sold last quarter... Apple had 10.9 million... so that means Apple had 24.5% market share for the quarter.

(I'm not saying I necessarily trust these "analysts"... but that's what market share is supposed to measure)

But you are describing usage share... which is another thing entirely. Usage share measure ALL tablets that were USED over the last 3 months.

There are something like 200 million iPads in people's hands today... and they tend to get used more than other tablets... so iPads have a high usage share.
 
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What kind of differences do you have in mind, apart from the split-screen, the 'function keys' (copy & paste keys on the software keyboard), and the turn-keyboard-into-trackpad thing that are coming)?

Is it a turn-the-iPad-into-a-Mac-when-attaching-a-keyboard?

Well,

As I said, a LONG time ago, and I mean years.

Pick anyone here almost and say, well guys, we have this large 10" screen, with a 2000x1500 is screen rez, amazing, size and pixel density.

It now up to you to design the most amazing user interface for it.

How much do you think you'd have gotten paid, if after a few years of work, you emerged and said, ok, well we have a background image, and put some large icons on it.

Whilst I'm not saying Msoft have things perfect, I do agree that, there is a bit plus to having things you wish to see on the screen instantly. Without needing to pen apps to check things.

Split screen, or windows, but there is always the 4:3 problem, which is not really ideal for cutting in half in the 1st place.

I guess the inevitable is, what you suggest.
If it's fast enough to run OSX then it should be an option, perhaps it will do 2 modes?

The problem is...... If you are going out for the day and might need your laptop, then why carry an iPad also.
Or just carry an iPad and worry you may be limiting yourself too much.

There really is little need for a Tablet and a Laptop to be two devices.
They are the same thing, in reality, only difference is one has a bolted on keyboard, the other has a optional/removable keyboard, and one is faster.

It's natural for, eventually there to be just the 1 product.

It could not happen in the past due to power of the device, but every year the argument will get harder and harder
 
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I stopped using my iPad when I got my iPhone 6 Plus. My guess is that's the direction personal computing will head. Your phone will be the hub. It'll act as a mobile device when on the go, but when you get home, it'll wirelessly connect to some sort of Cinema Display.
Exactly. And Microsoft got it already.
Tablets can survive if they'll become more powerful and useful like laptops are but in a lightweight touch screen tablet form.
 
The tablet is a luxury. A phone and laptop aren't.

The laptop/tablet categories could merge like we see happening on Windows with laptops that are tablets and the Surface, but those still seem like the worst of both worlds for most.

I think Apple needs to make an IOS laptop. could be a hybrid tablet/laptop if they can conker that divide. But a $600 iOS laptop would dominate I think.

Yeah they might cannibalize the Mac, but they don't mind doing that because if they don't then someone else will.

I think MS dropped the ball by discontinuing the SurfaceRT or at least the idea in general of a faster lighter weight less baggage OS.
 
The iPhone has killed camera sales. Could the same thing be happening with iPads? Are the large screen phablet phones from Apple and Samsung "good enough" for many people? My son has a laptop and two large screen TVs, but he watches NetFlix on his phablet.

I'm now using a late 2009 27" iMac and an iPhone 4s. I hope to replace them with an iPad Pro and an iPhone 6s Plus. I dislike large screens, the 27" iMac was a BIG mistake. I'd have been much happier with a 21" iMac. I want the best camera available, so Apple is forcing to buy the over-sized plus model (Meh!). The iPhone 6s Plus may turn out to be large enough, that I'll never buy an iPad
 
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I'm telling Ya, if Apple wants to revitalize this market....all they have to do is rebrand the iPod touch as an iPad nano, offer it in 4.7 and 5.5" sizes and add cellular data just like an iPad. Boom. There it is. Sales would sore. Problem solved. Thank you Apple. :p
You can't be serious, are you? And cannibalize the iPhone, their biggest seller by-far?
iPhone sales would be sore indeed. :eek:o_O:confused:
 
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The iPhone has killed camera sales. Could the same thing be happening with iPads? Are the large screen phablet phones from Apple and Samsung "good enough" for many people? My son has a laptop and two large screen TVs, but he watches NetFlix on his phablet.

I'm now using a late 2009 27" iMac and an iPhone 4s. I hope to replace them with an iPad Pro and an iPhone 6s Plus. I dislike large screens, the 27" iMac was a BIG mistake. I'd have been much happier with a 21" iMac. I want the best camera available, so Apple is forcing to buy the over-sized plus model (Meh!). The iPhone 6s Plus may turn out to be large enough, that I'll never buy an iPad

Could the 6+ and its successors kill the tablet market? Perhaps. Then again, New Apple (1997-present) seems bent on devouring its own before someone else does. The fact that iPad sales have been falling for 18 months is kind of a big deal because iOS has had no reason to differentiate between the smaller iPhones (all below the 6+) and iPads. Now that iOS9 is coming with that split screen, there is a compelling reason to buy that iPad Air 2. The iPad Mini, on the other hand, is probably done, especially given the 6+ and its successors.

BTW: Why do you dislike big screens? The 21" iMac looks smallish, whereas the 27" iMac (especially the Retina screen) looks fabulous. There is no substitute for a larger screen. Nobody's eyes are getting any younger.
 
I think that a natural evolution of personal computing is for everyone to have their own personal computing device. Aside from a spouse, I wouldn't want to let anyone else use my phone / tablet / computer, as it would contain personal information. I wouldn't trust anyone else to take proper care of it either. Seems that most damage I see to phones now-a-days is from lending them to children.

For kids sharing a device, if they're old enough to legitimately need to customise theirs, and keeps their own data private, then they're old enough to pitch in for their own.

Well, I don't see the iPad as a personal device. (That's my iPhone) I see it as a household appliance, like a toaster.. It's the itunes/spotify player, the second screen when we don't want to watch the same thing, something guests can use and so on.. It would be a great device for iMessage, FaceTime, social media and email but now we almost never use it for any of that because it's only one person who can be logged in to all of it and logging in and out all the time sucks.. I understand that Apple want us to buy several iPads but I think a lot of people don't use them enough to motivate the cost just to save a minute on logging in to stuff every time you pick it up. So, with multiple account we would be 2x happy, use it 2x as much and probably replace it 2x as fast.. Win/win
 
"Nobody's eyes are getting any younger." That's the problem! The four corners, of the 27" screen, are un-readable for me. Therefore, running many programs (FCPX, Pixelmatr, Affinity Photo) is a PITA.

Also the 27" iMac is too large/heavy for me to move (getting old sux).
 
think you could argue each IOS update people see that as like upgrading your ipad anyway

IOS 9 for one with spilt screen multitasking.
 
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