iPad Mini 6 Users Complain of 'Jelly Scrolling' Issue in Portrait Orientation

[code-m]

I have the latest Dev beta on mine, and it still does it. My guess is it is software related.

Firmware.

 

[840quadra]

You don’t need to do frame-by-frame or in slow or fast mode. People are presenting it in different ways on video to clearly show it. In person, it’s extremely noticeable.
Interesting, too, is that I’ve seen a few people post their own videos to prove they don’t have it, when in fact, you can see it in their videos. I truly believe that some people can’t perceive it - maybe due to their brain “correcting” what they are seeing. That, or they’re blind af. Hahaha jk. I wish I was one of those who can’t see it or at most, barely see it. But I noticed it almost immediately.

I can definitely see it, on my iPad 3, older Air, and even (in some cases) my iPhone 6. I don't see it, nor does slow-motion on my iPad mini.

Perhaps 15.1 beta fixed it, but I did receive a response from someone in this thread that they see it in the beta version of the next OS too.

Regardless, even on my old iPad 3 (that still gets used oddly) it really isn't that impactful. Bummed for those who have it and that are bothered by it though.

 

[code-m]

Does it do it rotated 180 degrees in portrait mode? Maybe screen was mounted upside down or just use the Mini 6 upside down to correct it.

Yes, it does it in portrait mode even 180 degrees. I have not noticed it in landscape mode.

 

[AllergyDoc]

Does it do it rotated 180 degrees in portrait mode? Maybe screen was mounted upside down or just use the Mini 6 upside down to correct it.

It does it in portrait mode but not in landscape.

 

[XXPP]

I don't remember these types of issues happening so frequently. Seems like there's always some issues now.

No, this is Apple. People like to click on apple news.

 

[bobcomer]

You dont have to do anything ridiculous just scroll up and down a centimeter or so back and forth.

That actually sounds ridiculous to me -- I don't ever recall doing that in my normal usage on anything.

 

[turbineseaplane]

If Apple did this because they want to avoid having the jelly effect in landscape mode, then they should redesign the iPad Mini to have the camera and Apple logo displayed also in landscape. The way it is designed right now it looks like portrait is sort of the default orientation, which I personally expected when I bought it for reading mostly.

This is a really good point and remains and a weird "issue" on the iPad.

They can't seem to decide on what even they think should be the "default" orientation.

The change on the screen here (aspect ratio and optimizing the jelly one way vs the other) seems to indicate that Apple now feels it's a Landscape Primarily/First device. But -- but still not moving the webcam to optimize for that -- it's weird.

 

[Realityck]

I truly believe that some people can’t perceive it - maybe due to their brain “correcting” what they are seeing. That, or they’re blind af. Hahaha jk. I wish I was one of those who can’t see it or at most, barely see it. But I noticed it almost immediately.

Some people are indeed more sensitive to observation against fine optical variations/details. There has been many similar concerns on other displays with some percentage of owners not able to see something amiss. The real question other then this being examined by Apple, is where do they draw the line of this being a problem and can they reduce the effect somewhat?

 

[ChrisChaval]

You’re scrolling it wrong

(couldn’t resist)

 

[yellowbunny]

Went to try one today in apple store. Its a very beautiful device and I want one! But I'm not getting one until this is fixed, it was so bad trying to read a web page in portrait mode... I could never read anything like that.

 

[jbellanca]

I find it interesting that no one's mentioned the one thing that maybe indicates it might be software not hardware – when you open up a side list, like the list of emails in Mail, and scroll just the list on the left side, it ALSO exhibits this behavior - there's jelly WITHIN the small list, all on the left side of the screen. If it were the display controllers, I don't think this would also be happening.

 

[thedieselwind]

I don’t see the “jelly” when I scroll slow but as I scroll these comments fast on my mini 6 I see this :

(in safari dark mode)

if I scroll up fast, the comment line breaks appear slanted down right to left and when I scroll up it’s slanted left to right 🤷

 

[DotCom2]

This is probably a stupid question (I don't know much about hardware), but I remember hearing that the A15 on the mini was under-clocked opposed to the A15 on the 13 iPhones. Could the under-clocking be related to this screen jelly effect?

 

[lyngo]

Pretty sure every mini 6 has this.
Everyone who sees it and went to a store has so far seen it on every unit. (Myself included)
There can’t be that much coincidence.


i guess not everyone is as sensitive to it. I wish it didn’t bother me.

I can confirm that my iPad mini does not have this issue.

 

[sracer]

What cannot be fixed with an update is the poor fuzzy dull screen. Putting the 5 next to the 6 there was no reason to spend the $900 on the new one

Of all the criticisms I've seen of the Mini 6, a fuzzy and dull screen was not one of them. Can you describe what the differences are? (photos rarely capture these things accurately)

 

[Syk]

Said the mini built on the air design would be a day one purchase...but gut said wait and see.
Glad I did.

 

[code-m]

This is probably a stupid question (I don't know much about hardware), but I remember hearing that the A15 on the mini was under-clocked opposed to the A15 on the 13 iPhones. Could the under-clocking be related to this screen jelly effect?

No; it would not effect the screen like this.

 

[code-m]

double post error.

 

[Rafterman]

Of all the criticisms I've seen of the Mini 6, a fuzzy and dull screen was not one of them. Can you describe what the differences are? (photos rarely capture these things accurately)

I had a 5/6 side by side, and they look the same to me.

 

[anthonymoody]

Easy to see on mine. Grrr.

 

[deadshift]

I feel bad that some people are bothered by this so much, but it is an artifact of LCD screens since they were invented. CRT screens with progressive display also did this horizontally. The problem is that the video card is too fast for the hardware refresh. If you hate jelly scroll, the solution is more power hungry display hardware, or pure LED display, or go back to stutter scrolling with 30 FPS or lower video refresh. The cure may be worse than the disease.
Please stop acting like Apple invented jelly scroll, or that it’s new with the iPad mini. Apparently it’s more obvious there, but it’s not new. The problem is older than you are.
Then we can start complaining about the main problem with modern displays, PWM brightness control.

 

[code-m]

I had a 5/6 side by side, and they look the same to me.

I don’t understand the comments about screen quality it’s the same LCD/LED type with PPI. It could be the exterior glass but I am not seeing any issue with screen quality here just the scrolling issue.

 

[joeblow7777]

Maybe someday.

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Looks cool, but such slim bezels on such a small tablet doesn’t give much space to actually hold it.

 

[Rafterman]

Looks cool, but such slim bezels on such a small tablet doesn’t give much space to actually hold it.

Yes, you need some bezel. At least on the sides.

 

[code-m]

Looks cool, but such slim bezels on such a small tablet doesn’t give much space to actually hold it.

Not quite so simple when holding it in portrait mode, it fits in one’s palm of the hand when holding it in landscape the flat sides and it being rested on both hands similar to holding an iPhone. Try it as it’s not a hinderance. There maybe a slight bezel to accommodate the thickness of the front camera but that’s it. A remarkable small, light and powerful iPad tbh and yes it can accommodate a larger screen or shrink the bezels and reduce the physical size.