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I remember reading reports about them releasing a $99 Nexus 7. I don't think that they will get rid of the Nexus 7 8Gb like everyone is expecting them to. I think that this will be the new pricing for the Nexus 7.

Nexus 7 8GB $99
Nexus 7 16GB $199
Nexus 7 32GB $250

At these prices the Tegra 3 tablet with Android JellyBean will be a great alternative to the Ipad Mini if the price of the Ipad Mini base model starts at $329

The rumour mill on Nexus and Google's end of Month New York happening is now at full steam, presently, we know that a 32G Nexus 7 model is to be launched and this will replace the 16G model at the same price point, further, its expected Google/Asus will also launch a 3G enabled version of the N7 which may be priced at US$299 - an iPad Mini killer if Apple price points are to be believed.

On top of N7 upgrades, a new Nexus phone is to be launched in partnership with LG, and if rumours are correct, Samsung will also debut a 10in Nexus offering with a higher screen resolution than the 'Retina' iPad.

Google's marketing strategy is to take the wind out of the sales iPad Mini's, MS RT Surface, Kindle Fire HD and other recently launched eReaders/ 7in models.

Further, whilst Android 4.1 is not perfect - the smooth user experience associated with iOS has not been perfected 100% - no serious reviewer has underestimated the great strides made in Android over the past 6 months with the launch of 4.1 and debut of 4.2, there is much concern about fragmentation though.

All of the above means finally Apple has some real competition and the price points and specifications of the Nexus range are most compelling.

As a long time Apple user of multiple devices, all this is good news, for with competition comes innovation, and lets be fair, iOS is now looking a little dated whilst Android is quickly catching up.

I'm in the market for a small form factor Tablet and have waited eagerly for Apple's take on the format before parting with my cash and will decide at the months end whether to invest in a iPad Mini, or the 3G enabled Nexus 7 - presently, I'm moving in the Android direction, but Apple may surprise us all.
 
Nexus 7 8GB $99
Nexus 7 16GB $199
Nexus 7 32GB $250
From what I have read Google is to discontinue the 8GB Nexus and replace it will a 32GB, and keep the same two price points. So it will be:

Nexus 7 16GB $199
Nexus 7 32GB $249

I don't see their being a 8GB at $99. That would have to be below cost. I guess their will be some 8GB models on special to get rid of the stock, but $149, would to seem like a more reasonable price.

The more I think about it, 8GB seems too small for a tablet. I think that the $329 base price for the iPad mini could be for a 16GB model. This would still make the iPad mini significantly more than the Nexus 7 (consider the price drop) but at least vaguely in the same ball park.
 
I tried the Kindle Fire HD. Loved the screen, the great sound, the excellent case ... I hated the carousel and OS. And I missed the home button :). I want an iPad Mini. I hope it will be reasonably priced.

The point of my post? It struck me that for 35 pages, people have pretty much talked about hundreds of dollars or pounds or euros. Here in the US, the "horrible economy" has been the hot topic of this political year. You sure couldn't prove it by this thread nor by the millions of tablets and smart phones sold this year. SMH
 
From what I have read Google is to discontinue the 8GB Nexus and replace it will a 32GB, and keep the same two price points. So it will be:

Nexus 7 16GB $199
Nexus 7 32GB $249

I don't see their being a 8GB at $99. That would have to be below cost. I guess their will be some 8GB models on special to get rid of the stock, but $149, would to seem like a more reasonable price.

The more I think about it, 8GB seems too small for a tablet. I think that the $329 base price for the iPad mini could be for a 16GB model. This would still make the iPad mini significantly more than the Nexus 7 (consider the price drop) but at least vaguely in the same ball park.

What's your opinion if Google launch a 3G enabled N7 at a US$299 price point - I can tell you as the owner of a 'Retina' 64G 4LTE iPad, that price point would be highly compelling given I require a mobile device I can make calls on that is bigger than a iPhone - my eyesight getting worse with age and never had a real ability to SMS on small form factor keypads on mobile phones.

just remember, we are all not kids and some have great difficulty in using smartphones and a 10in iPad is really too big to take on the road continually.
 
Having used the Nexus 7 I bought my wife recently, Apple really need to pull something out the bag with the iPad Mini. If there's a 7.85" screen, plus point. If there's at least 16Gb memory, can live with it (lived with 8Gb iPhones so far). How does the quad core CPU in the Nexus 7 compare with Apples custom devices? I don't know. Price point comparability is key for me. Too much, and may as well get a 16Gb New iPad. Of course, there's the small matter of all the existing IOS apps I own, which is also a big plus point. Hopefully everything will be much clearer in 36 hours.
 
I don't know why you are listing an iPad 2 as the alternative for only 70 more. Tomorrow the iPad 2 with its 30 pin connector is going the way of the dodo.
 
What's your opinion if Google launch a 3G enabled N7 at a US$299 price point - I can tell you as the owner of a 'Retina' 64G 4LTE iPad, that price point would be highly compelling given I require a mobile device I can make calls on that is bigger than a iPhone - my eyesight getting worse with age and never had a real ability to SMS on small form factor keypads on mobile phones.

just remember, we are all not kids and some have great difficulty in using smartphones and a 10in iPad is really too big to take on the road continually.

I think a 3G/4G seems like a good idea. More choice is good, until it becomes overwhelming for the consumer. This is a case where it is very clear to the average consumer what the difference is. Would US$299 be for the 32GB version or only the 16GB? either way it seems like a good price. ie. would Google be charging +$50 or +$100 for the 3G/4G option?

On the iPads and iPhones Apple charges $100 for each increase in storage, while for the Nexus it is only $50 more to go from 8 to 16GB (soon 16 to 32GB). I find Apple product are often only slight more than their competitors at the low end, to get the consumer interested, but they then charge another $100 for the model with more memory that the consumer actually ends up buying. The $100 is almost all profit for Apple, the price difference for Apple between a 8 and 16 or 16 and 32GB memory chip would be less than $30.

Can data only iOS and Android 3G/4G devices get sms? Could a big phone like the Galaxy Note be a solution for you for SMS?

I wasn't interested in 7" tablet until I used a Nexus 7". I now think 7" is a great size, far more portable that a 10". You could carry it in a large pocket or it would fit in most hand bags.

Part of my interesting tablets is education. $30 is not that much to me, but $30 x 300 students = $9000, that is signification to a school.
 
Priced way too high along with the iPod Touch. If the base model began at $249-299, I'd be game. Anything over the $300 point is psychologically disinteresting. At this price point, I might as well shell out the extra $170 for a full-sized iPad.

This might end up turning into 2007 when Apple lowered the price of the original iPhone just three months after releasing it.
 
I wonder what UK pricing will be?...

I'm going to guess at £299 for the entry level, whatever that may be.

...yes it's £100 more than the Nexus 7 but I (and millions of others) are happy to pay the premium to have an iOS device - especially to those who are already tied to the ecosystem. I had a Nexus7 for a while and it was very nice, but without seamless integration into everything else I own it will never work for me.

To those moaning about the $299 vs $329 or wanting it to compete with Nexus/Fire on price - Apple don't care, people who make buying decisions based on cheapest alternatives and $30 differences are not their target market.

I don't think the stockholders would be too keen on the company taking that change of direction either for those thinking such a change of tack would be healthy for stock prices.

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I want one, but I wouldn't hesitate to snap one up at $299. Now I'm going to have to think about it.

You have to think about spending and extra $30?

Apologies if you justified this statement already. I didn't read past your post :)
 
Not convinced by this but only a few days till we find out the truth, this really needs to compete with the Kindle Fire, and at that price it doesn't.
 
This looks suspect to me $329 is an odd price the start at given $299 would look far more appealing at not that much of a reduction. In the quantities that are being talked about for this device apple are still going to be making a big profit at $299 and get more of a headline grabbing price. They were never going to compete with the Kindle Fire directly on price as Amazon has admitted they sell them at cost but at $299 I think they could still cut into the Fire market. At $329 its a much harder sell. Having said all of this I know that at $329 they would still fly off the shelves for Christmas and I am sure at whatever price they are pitched Apple has done a load of market research to know that there will be enough people to willing to buy at the price they set.
 
You have to think about spending and extra $30?

Apologies if you justified this statement already. I didn't read past your post :)

Not to speak for someone else, but frankly, anything over $250 and it stops being a no-brainer purchase. At $330 I have to start considering whether I might as well just go ahead and get a full-sized iPad since the Mini is not a money-saving option. Just seems that there's a lovely gap there in the $199-$299 range of economy pricing that will still remain a gap and the Mini's will barely cost less than the full iPads.
 
Not that Apple has been concerned playing a race to the bottom, but I remember prices on the original iPad were supposed to be approaching $999 and Apple was like, "BLAM, $499!".

Either that will happen again, or this thing might have a retina screen. Otherwise, they are conceding low-end of the 7" market.

Those both seem like plausible scenarios. I can't imagine Apple would try to compete with $199 tablets with something that starts at $329. I mean at that price without a retina display, why not spend another $70 to get an iPad 2?

But then I recall Steve Jobs talking all those times about Apple wanting to make the best products, not cheaping out. So a smaller iPad with a retina display makes tons of sense, especially since we know it's physically possible. I would also bet on 16GB of storage because of how ridiculously tiny 8GB is for a tablet. You put those two features on it, and then I understand $329.

But still, "BLAM, $249!" wouldn't shock me if Apple wants to run very slim profit margins on it and put a Force chokehold on the competition.
 
Not convinced by this but only a few days till we find out the truth, this really needs to compete with the Kindle Fire, and at that price it doesn't.

Why do you think that? Is a Mercedes SLK competing with a Fiat Punto? Sure, both get you and your better half from London to Manchester, but, really?

If anything, it has to compete with the iPad2 and then it is very well positioned.
 
Why do you think that? Is a Mercedes SLK competing with a Fiat Punto? Sure, both get you and your better half from London to Manchester, but, really?

iPad Mini= Mercedes SLK and Fire HD=Fiat Punto? Really? Perhaps you have to wait until tomorrow to see if it is a Mercedes or a SEAT
 
News flash!

Apple thinks the current 7" tablet 16 x 9 form factor is not an optimal user experience, they still stand by this.
Apple is not entering the 7" tablet market.
Apple is making a smaller iPad for an optimal user experience. Through research they came up with 7.85" screen with a 40% more area.
 
News flash!

Apple thinks the current 7" tablet 16 x 9 form factor is not an optimal user experience, they still stand by this.
Apple is not entering the 7" tablet market.
Apple is making a smaller iPad for an optimal user experience. Through research they came up with 7.85" screen with a 40% more area.

Yap, and 3.5" was the perfect smartphone screen :rolleyes:
 
Yap, and 3.5" was the perfect smartphone screen :rolleyes:
3.5" is the size of the screen not the phone.
Your point is?????
Forgot the 4" iPhone provides slightly better user experience with the same form factor.
 
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3.5" is the size of the screen not the phone.
Your point is?????

And what I have said?

My point is that 9.7" or 3.5" is the perfect size until they make another size.

And if you think that Apple is not entering the 7" market you're delusional, if you think that 7" is not an optimal user experience, you're delusional. I bet that if they make a 16:9 screen you'll be the first to claim that is the perfect ratio and the perfect screen size
 
News flash!

Apple thinks the current 7" tablet 16 x 9 form factor is not an optimal user experience, they still stand by this.
Apple is not entering the 7" tablet market.
Apple is making a smaller iPad for an optimal user experience. Through research they came up with 7.85" screen with a 40% more area.

but steve jobs said anything less than 10inches was too small

You can't do anything worth while with less than a 10-inch screen

but no u turn there at all right?

anyway he declared 7inch tablets doa. Nexus 7 proved him wrong

apple will claim anything they do is perfect...until they change it next year.
 
but steve jobs said anything less than 10inches was too small



but no u turn there at all right?

anyway he declared 7inch tablets doa. Nexus 7 proved him wrong
steve jobs was not the only person with talent and great ideas at Apple. There were people at Apple pushing for a smsller ipad. The nexus 7 has not proved any thing yet the jury is still out.
 
nope ! poorly designed Windows 95 won't be any threat to Apple premium products

Living in the past ain't going to make up for the fact that windows 7 has never "froze" on me. Once. In two years.

I hated Windows ME, etc, but MSFT has stepped their game up. Then again I use my computer for productive "work" while my apple iphone for "play" ;)
 
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