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iPad Pro 9.7" Better than 12.9"
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I'm not gonna bother with this Hey Siri crap anyway - half the time Siri cannot answer my questions nor can it do anything worthwhile at all. Most of the time she gets things wrong or says I can't do this and/or that. I think google's implementation is far superior. Can turn on/off settings and basically is correctly interpreting everything I say 90% of the time.
To rub salt in wound, iPad Pro 9.7" has same A9X. Unless something magical inside the 9.7" the 12.9" doesn't have, why do I have to plug in my iPad Pro in order to get hey Siri command to work?
So stupid Apple is!
It's hardly a deal breaker. Yes 3.0 would have been nice but even with 2.0 the other feature updates make it worthwhile getting the 9.7" iPad Pro.
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I don't think it's the CPU that determines whether it works or not. I seem to recall they mentioned another hardware component during today's media briefing that makes Hey Siri work with the device unplugged. I believe that's why the iPhone 6S and 6S Plus can do it but the 6 and 6 Plus can't.
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For me it kind of is. I can't justify not getting the largest capacity as I know I will use it. Given the price and the lack of upgradability/external storage options it's a must for me. But it's absolutely crazy to get a 256gb device that still has usb2 (it would be less of a deal breaker if the 12.9" didn't have usb3 as then at least the technology 'didn't exist'). The fact that they have willingly taken the decision to CUT it is what really annoys me as well.
I have to agree with you, it is disappointing to see that they didn't include the already existing USB 3.0 from the 12.9" model into this one. It seems a step backwards to market it as a pro device then put a slower interface on it.
I totally agree! IMO the iPP is still better not only because the screen size but mainly because of screen resolution. And, come on, who takes pictures with an iPad? (just kidding)
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It's just a matter of time. I'm more curious to see if the 12 inch is updated in Sept/Oct and if the same happens to the iPad Pro 9.7". (Like the iPad 4 and iPad 3).
Then your best choice is to wait until they release the next model and make do with what you have in the mean time. Personally for me it's not a deal breaker. I plan on getting the 256GB model but as I only connect it for syncing at most once a week the USB 2.0 is not really a bother for me. Yes 3.0 would be nice but I can live with 2.0.
But put in USB 3.0 interface yet NONE of the iPhone lineup has it including the iPHone 6S+ but yet leave out that component that enables hey Siri without being plugged in? Apple is really a__ backwards these days!
I don't think it's these days as you put it. Apple has played the strategy for leaving certain features and components out only to include them in a future revision of the device for a long time. It's nothing new. I'm certainly not trying to justify it but for anyone who wants to remain in the Apple ecosystem and buy only or primarily only Apple products this is an unfortunate fact of life.
Honestly the mini Pro is not "better" than the large pro if you think about it. For me, drawing, writing and doing homework is exceptionally better on the larger screen, plus the power is beyond, well... powerful.
The mini Pro has 12mp camera and a few gimmicks (but who is really going to use the 12.9" iPP to go out camping and take photos? And I think the true-tone thing is beyond stupid, why would I use that while drawing on a digital tablet? I need the screen white all the time so I can make sure each color is absolutely accurate. I would say the thing that will bug me most is if the display is better than the larger Pro like apple says. I thought the point of the Pro was to have the "greatest iOS display ever." As with it, artists and businesses can do their work on a device that is big enough to actually show to clients.
So yeah the camera is nice but not the protruding part. Plus the smaller Pro has less loud speakers, slower clock speed, and USB 2.0... I think they are both good devices. But Apple still sucks for not giving their "flagship" iPad the same features, whatever though, it's the new Apple way (screwing people and sucking a lot, but still making products good enough that i'll buy them.) lol
Truth be told though, I feel Apple is like the new Walmart, they are the biggest so they just do whatever shady junk they want and no one can really stop em. Sure the Surface books are getting better, and even that Dell laptop is really cool, but they still suffer from the windows software and more regular hardware failures (in my experience anyway.) So Apple still has them beat.
Kal.
The mini Pro has 12mp camera and a few gimmicks (but who is really going to use the 12.9" iPP to go out camping and take photos? And I think the true-tone thing is beyond stupid, why would I use that while drawing on a digital tablet? I need the screen white all the time so I can make sure each color is absolutely accurate. I would say the thing that will bug me most is if the display is better than the larger Pro like apple says. I thought the point of the Pro was to have the "greatest iOS display ever." As with it, artists and businesses can do their work on a device that is big enough to actually show to clients.
So yeah the camera is nice but not the protruding part. Plus the smaller Pro has less loud speakers, slower clock speed, and USB 2.0... I think they are both good devices. But Apple still sucks for not giving their "flagship" iPad the same features, whatever though, it's the new Apple way (screwing people and sucking a lot, but still making products good enough that i'll buy them.) lol
Truth be told though, I feel Apple is like the new Walmart, they are the biggest so they just do whatever shady junk they want and no one can really stop em. Sure the Surface books are getting better, and even that Dell laptop is really cool, but they still suffer from the windows software and more regular hardware failures (in my experience anyway.) So Apple still has them beat.
Kal.
As one of digital artists, I still like 12.9" better. I was looking at videos and things, simply, 9.7" isn't enough big to work on. And yet not portable enough as much as mini4. I'm gonna think more if they release iPad mini size with Apple Pencil support, then it's gonna be good taking out small digital sketch book. I do bring iPad Pro 12.9" out, sitting at cafe or else and work on my art works, yes it's big, but that size has reasonable reasons.
I was bit curious about true tone or what so ever thing came with 9.7", but seriously, I don't want the screen color changed based on what kind of lights I'm under. Then my art works looks different or comes out different depends on where I'm at and what kind/how much lights there is. Currently digital art works color problem is already enough, each monitor shows slightly different, and now I gotta think of lights in the room or place I'm at effecting my colors sounds nightmare.
I was interested having smaller iPad Pro, but going to pass this one, there are lot of things I don't need, and obviously I don't need two iPad Pro with different sizes. I'm not brave enough selling 12.9" to buy 9.7", I care resolution(which 12.9" is actually still much higher) instead of true tone display(as a digital artisit I don't want it). Yeah, speed of processor doesn't change much, but still 12.9" is faster, and that makes actually bit difference when you are dealing with a big files like digital art works/music files, in my opinion. I have iPhone(going to wait 7 coming though), I don't need such high function camera on my big iPad Pro, that's gonna be useless anyway.
So from my view, this 9.7" maybe for college students or business people who wants to have little benefit from Apple Pencil but not much like drawing/painting, or ebooks or web browsing purpose(true color display easy on your eyes if you need to read I guess), gaming is easier since smaller than 12.9", watching movies probably not super awesome but ok.
I really think you better choose based on the thought whichever fits the purpose you're going to use it for. After I read through comparison between those two, figured there are better points/not so much points to each other, can't really tell which one is "superior". And yap, Apple is wise for business.
I was bit curious about true tone or what so ever thing came with 9.7", but seriously, I don't want the screen color changed based on what kind of lights I'm under. Then my art works looks different or comes out different depends on where I'm at and what kind/how much lights there is. Currently digital art works color problem is already enough, each monitor shows slightly different, and now I gotta think of lights in the room or place I'm at effecting my colors sounds nightmare.
I was interested having smaller iPad Pro, but going to pass this one, there are lot of things I don't need, and obviously I don't need two iPad Pro with different sizes. I'm not brave enough selling 12.9" to buy 9.7", I care resolution(which 12.9" is actually still much higher) instead of true tone display(as a digital artisit I don't want it). Yeah, speed of processor doesn't change much, but still 12.9" is faster, and that makes actually bit difference when you are dealing with a big files like digital art works/music files, in my opinion. I have iPhone(going to wait 7 coming though), I don't need such high function camera on my big iPad Pro, that's gonna be useless anyway.
So from my view, this 9.7" maybe for college students or business people who wants to have little benefit from Apple Pencil but not much like drawing/painting, or ebooks or web browsing purpose(true color display easy on your eyes if you need to read I guess), gaming is easier since smaller than 12.9", watching movies probably not super awesome but ok.
I really think you better choose based on the thought whichever fits the purpose you're going to use it for. After I read through comparison between those two, figured there are better points/not so much points to each other, can't really tell which one is "superior". And yap, Apple is wise for business.
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i still think the 13" is better. 10" is too small for doing anything. i do wish i had the better screen , better color is nice to have for photo editing, but honestly, the ipad pro is too slow to do serious photo editing on right now. i tried editing RAW on it in photoshop express. its really slow. id rather just use my wintab, its way faster. color calibration matters allot less for painting- so the 13" is still the best for that. but its nice to see that the bigger pro will get a better screen in the future, lack of color calibration is not good for professional photo workflows. i hope it can be calibrated for ICC profiles. then it would be legit. plus by then maybe the tablet will be fast enough to bother doing the work on.
Siri? that thing actually works for people? its so inaccurate i never even bother.
Siri? that thing actually works for people? its so inaccurate i never even bother.
It seems like it, with the improved screen at least: increased color gamut and less reflectivity. I'm assuming these things haven't been applied to the larger iPad Pro yet.
I imagine they will update the 12.9" version in the fall with an A10X, True Tone display, etc. They really need to group these product announcements together. The 12.9" version was announced too early in my opinion and threw their update schedule out of whack. They didn't even have the Pencil ready at the time. Now we have alternating iPad upgrade cycles that will always leave one half of the users happy and the other half ticked off. What bothers me is leaving USB 3 off the 9.7" version as it will likely be a full year before it gets upgraded again. Has anyone tested iTunes sync speeds with the 12.9" version to see how much of a real world difference it makes?
I disagree that we'll see a new device in the Fall. I think the 12.9-inch iPad Pro will have a longer life cycle and it'll be upgraded along with the smaller iPads next year. The 12.9 model became available in November so why not wait 4 months and group them together?
Before this event, people were complaining about the rumored 4-inch iPhone not having flagship specs. Many rebutted with the statement that the bigger screen devices will always have the better specs, and get used to it. Today the tables have turned a bit, and it's funny seeing some of the same people get angry that the smaller screen device now outshines the larger one in some aspects
Really though, I'm more confused on how they're gonna sell the Air 2 and Mini 4 side by side at the same price? A strange day in the iOS lineup for sure.
Really though, I'm more confused on how they're gonna sell the Air 2 and Mini 4 side by side at the same price? A strange day in the iOS lineup for sure.
I'm thinking the same thing. I imagine it will get a 100% or more on the color accuracy and whatnot, and maybe a little brighter or something, but until the 31st, it's all still murky on what that "advanced display" actually means. Because the larger Pro had the same thing said about it in September. It turned out to be much better than the Air 2, but it wasn't groundbreaking.
Kal.
I just picked up an iPad Pro from bestbuy, 128gb, opened box geeksquad certified for $700 out the door. Not a single scratch and shows no sign of used.
The 9.7 is a little too small to be used as laptop if needed, but will see on the 31st. I still can return this if I don't like it.
The 9.7 is a little too small to be used as laptop if needed, but will see on the 31st. I still can return this if I don't like it.
9.7 IPP has only 2gb Ram. bummer!
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/03/9-7-inch-ipad-pro-and-iphone-se-both-have-2gb-of-ram/
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/03/9-7-inch-ipad-pro-and-iphone-se-both-have-2gb-of-ram/
I wouldn't use multi core as your primary method of determining performance. Single-core speeds tend to be far more important in most practical workloads, and in this context the A9 series SoCs are much faster than A8.
Interesting. Going by those memory scores, seems likely that the iPad Pro 9.7 has single channel 2GB RAM while the iPad Pro 12.9 has dual channel 4GB RAM (2x2GB).These benchmarks would disagree with that statement.
