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What really surprises me is how much they look like real pencil and paper drawings as opposed to just "trying to look like" they are. Sure, that's more thanks to the software, but in Photoshop it would take ages of playing around to get such a convincing "pencil-and-paper" look, so you often see people trying but failing to achieve it in a realistic way. Also, maybe since Pencil is thinner, you're more inclined to do quick fine strokes for shading. With the thicker Wacom pens you somehow don't want to drag it back and forth a million times, you'd rather resort to a thicker brush and less strokes. The Pencil really seems to work like an actual pencil.


It does seem like it's better than anything Wacom has ever done. About time! I think Wacom has really messed up in the past few years, and it's good to see Apple raising the bar. I really hope Astropad can make this work on a Mac without adding lag or reducing precision, has anyone tried?
 
Not really relevant to this thread, is it?


It's very accessible. All you have to do is buy it. Very easy to do.


You could say that about everything. As a college student, I couldn't buy everything I wanted. That's just the way it is.


OK then. The iPad is NOT designed to be a computer running full PS. If that's what you want, there are plenty of choices. But don't condemn the iPad which serves a great purpose for many, just not to you.

Get a life, bruh.

The fact that you can reply to comments with your opinion somehow diminishes the fact that I can't write my opinion stating that people can now finally draw some new rMBP designs? Do you not see the dumbfoundedness in your logic?
 
While the Apple Pencil is great and all, I hope you do realize that a lot of energy and resources go into its making, not to mention the iPad it goes with.

It's hardly a "greener" alternative; in terms of energy use alone (a large portion of which comes from fossil sources) we are probably talking about it being 170.000 times more expensive than a regular pencil.

Then again you can't play Puzzle Bobble with a piece of wood.

Umm, okay. I was making a joke...
 
I would love them to make a paint brush that emulates the bristles as well as the pencil emulates a pencil and pen.
 
The tool is fine, photoshop really isn't needed, seriously stop blaming it. The problem is that you can't buy skill, you have to work for it.
 
The tool is fine, photoshop really isn't needed, seriously stop blaming it. The problem is that you can't buy skill, you have to work for it.

Sure you can buy skill; pay someone else to do it.

The tool is fine, for certain tasks. I think the main issue is that people are wanting an experience like the cintiq companion 2 and are seeing that it probably isn't happening. A lot will come down to astropad and lag. But even astropad isn't the total solution because it requires another device.

For drawing I think the iPad pro and stylus will be great. For photo editing I think it will eventually get there, though storage will be an issue. For 3D sculpting, well... Maybe by the iPad pro 3 someone will have made an iOS version of Zbrush. For professional video editing, I think ios is a long way off.
 
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Sure you can buy skill; pay someone else to do it.


Facepalm... Good luck "becoming an artist" by paying someone to do it. That's not how the real world works. We call people that do that liars, plagiarists and cheaters.
 
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Today I went to an Apple Store to test the Apple Pencil and drew quickly (ca. 15 minutes) this futuristic aircraft in the Apple Store. I was really impressed with the very natural feeling when I was drawing. I almost forgot that I was drawing on glass rather than on paper. The only thing that I missed when using the pencil, was an undo-button and/or an eraser. I think most people will lose the magnetic cap within a few weeks.

The Apple store employees were also impressed. They even asked for my permission to print it as an example. :)
 
Anyone ever hear of a sketchpad and a real artist's pencil? I'm sick of digital, digital, digital.

What's your point? If you paint on a real canvas with real colors, the process can be really a mess! You can't simply pop a new layer and make big changes – you have to start over. That's why I like painting/drawing digitally. It saves you a lot of time, keeps your hands clean, and can be shared instantly.
 
What's your point? If you paint on a real canvas with real colors, the process can be really a mess! You can't simply pop a new layer and make big changes – you have to start over. That's why I like painting/drawing digitally. It saves you a lot of time, keeps your hands clean, and can be shared instantly.

Sad.
 
Yes, I think it can be.

I could see how purely digital artists could be a little less disciplined comparatively, since they've always got undo, and plenty more assistance features compared to good old fashioned pen and paper. But at the same time, they're still developing roughly the same skills and traits in about the same way when you get right down to it.

I'd say it's a mix of good and bad. The absolute best thing to do would be to learn both. But for those who want to stick with the computer, I don't think it's that harmful.
 
I know alot of you are going to hate me for this, but a friend who's been using Wacom products for 7+ years tells me it is alot better than anything Wacom has to offer in terms of accuracy and shading.

He says he will combine it with astropad
This is no surprise. The Wacom line started with resistive touch technology and then moved to capastive touch and other technologies, they had the various releases of both Mac OS X and Windows OS to deal with getting user into to display. The iOS has been optimized for user input to display a lot better than OS'es originally designed for keyboard and then mouse input.
 
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