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iPad Pro First Impressions: Surprisingly Light, But Screen Size May Be Unnecessary for Most
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Still not powerful enough for editing 4K from my GoPro in a reasonable time. They should have given a 256gb option as space will be at a premium for video editing.....
It's at the point where we need to be able to adjust the number of apps and the size of icons.
64GB for a "Pro" product is a joke and they dont even offer that - 32GB for base model?????
still missing capability to get content off something like a digital camera.
There are a few, I've personally tried OSx on the Surface 2. However, so far there seems to be some hiccups due to lack of driver support in OSx.
There's no WiFi on any of the hacks/mods I've seen. Getting full 10 point touchscreen was tricky, and the keyboard may or may not work depending on position of the moon.
was an interesting experiment though!
A lot of digital cameras(Sony rx100) have built in wireless technology built into them these days. If not there are relatively cheap SD cards with this functionality but I do get your point.
For me being able to use a mouse would be more useful than a USB port at least if you're looking to replace a laptop.
There are some work around ways with some online connected cameras. But say your'e someone who has an expansive DSLR setup that does not have WiFi transfer capabilities.
Something like the Surface and other Win 10 based devices have full USB support to be able to take photos directly off the camera via USB device. Edit their RAW photos in something like Lightroom or photoshop, and then transfer to memory stick. None of it using proprietary connectors or devices. And all of it identical to how you would do it on a laptop or desktop. Same software, same experience and same workflow.
This is just one of the areas that I think is causing the "hate". The new iPad is a great looking iPad with some additional new features. Those speakers need to make their way to other iPads in the line, along with Stylus support. but in the end, the iPad pro still doesn't live up to that "prop" moniker because, by running iOS it is not going to come close to replicating the capabilities that OSx can provide. Workflows will be different if you're trying to accomplish the same things on the two separate devices.
In the case of photo Editing, as i describe the workflow in Windows world, and OSx world. in iOS world, you're going to have to still use a full computer to get those files off the device. Plug your iPad into your computer to transfer. Or use the cloud. And when we're talking about DSLR RAW photos, we're talking about photos that can range from 15MB to 100MB a piece. Then when you're done, you're plugging it back in to transfer back to your desktop, or once again, using the cloud. This is even giving the assumption that there will be a competent iOS program that can emulate or replicate the requirements of LightRoom or Photoshop.
As I said, it's not a bad tablet. Ipads are fantastic tablets. But "pro"? anything more than a scaled up iPad? this is not.
p.s.. I still want one. still look pretty and I like shiny new toys
Don't think for one second that this iPad is for professionals. This iPad is for people with poor eyesight, and those who have difficulty holding, using, and/or seeing the existing full-size iPad. The marketing is just bs reason for it to exist.
99% of sales are going to be to mom and pops who say "this is nice, but it's kinda hard to use, do you have anything bigger?"
99% of sales are going to be to mom and pops who say "this is nice, but it's kinda hard to use, do you have anything bigger?"
thats ridiculous. Nobody wants a bigger iPad "because the current one is too small to see/use." This thing is for artists, multitasking and certain business/medical use. If it was just for mom and pop they wouldn't have bothered spending so much time and effort with the stylus.
A number of people will buy it as a portable streaming tv, but that's clearly not its primary purpose. It's less convenient and usable than a normal iPad for average use. It's not for that, mostly.
Same feeling here. And most of the footage involving the stylus showed the user's drawing hand well above the touchscreen. If palm rejection exists, I'm purchasing this product on day one, but not very optimistic on this front.
It has palm rejection, and we see it in action in their promo video. As Apple haven't done styluses before, and the average user won't even know what palm rejection is, ofc apples attempt would be to make it "just work". Lots of people who used it have praised the Palm rejection too, so my hopes are up.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/hands-on-with-the-ipad-pro-its-keyboard-and-its-pencil/
That is baffling indeed. It's almost like someone said "we'll get to that later" and then everyone forgot.
Ah ok - poster I saw ommitted the 32GB. However that makes it worse, 32GB of storage in a "pro" product which boasts about photos, graphic and video editing.
I agree.
I know that the Windows RT-based Surface devices are a favorite target for ridicule, but let's at least give what little credit it is due....
It has a near-full version of the desktop version of MS Office. It has a full-size USB port that supports a variety of USB peripherals (USB thumb drives, hard drives, mice, keyboards, microphones, presentation remotes, etc.), it has an HDMI port and can support dual-monitor mode, and it supports bluetooth mice and trackpads. (that's off the top of my head)
... none of the above is possible with the iPad "Pro".
It's really interesting for creative applications, but I want to see more commitment from Adobe than the usual dumbed-down mobile apps.
If it gets better support from creative app developers that use the additional computing power to create iPad Pro-only apps rather than sling out the same app for all iOS devices with a few more features, I'm in.
I'm a bit torn between getting this a few months after launch if pro apps come out, and waiting on the Skylake MacBook Pro.
If it gets better support from creative app developers that use the additional computing power to create iPad Pro-only apps rather than sling out the same app for all iOS devices with a few more features, I'm in.
I'm a bit torn between getting this a few months after launch if pro apps come out, and waiting on the Skylake MacBook Pro.
It has palm rejection, and we see it in action in their promo video. As Apple haven't done styluses before, and the average user won't even know what palm rejection is, ofc apples attempt would be to make it "just work". Lots of people who used it have praised the Palm rejection too, so my hopes are up.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/hands-on-with-the-ipad-pro-its-keyboard-and-its-pencil/
I didn't see this article until now. It apparently answers my question relating to palm rejection and replacement nibs. I'm not very surprised at the fact that nibs will wear out due to my experience with the Wacom tablet in my home studio. I need to see more specs on actual pressure sensitive levels and if more cases of palm rejection is confirmed, then it's convincing. However, my wacom stylus is built differently with rubber gripping and click button. The grip is more comfortable to use than just having an all glossy pen that could slip. I suspect Apple or other 3rd party companies would offer a special rubber grip to add on to the Pencil for comfort and longevity.
But having 2 GB of RAM for iPad Pro is a bit insulting. 4 GB would be fine but Adobe redacted the information which makes me think Apple is covering it up. Apple seriously needs to grow a pair of balls and tell the truth about the actual specs without crossing the fingers, hoping people will overlook certain things.
It's kind of laughable. I never expected the iPad Pro to have OS X (that would be a bad experience) but I did expect it to have a modified version of iOS. It's the same iOS as the other iPads, just scaled up. Apple innovation.
There's more glaring issues that if Apple wanted it to be truly Pro like the Macbook Pro, it should've had:
1. 4 GB of RAM to be on par with SP3.
2. An actual slot for the SSD card to add more storage to save huge files off grid instead of the Cloud. After all, some files can be sensitive and not meant for the public to see, to stay private. Although, the use of private folders on Dropbox could remedy that to strictly share with other clientele.
3. Pencil needs palm rejection. ( Note: it was apparently mentioned it does in one article but more confirmation is needed )
4. iPad Pro's OS should've gone hybrid, allowing professionals to take desktop apps with them on the go to work on native files. You may be able to draw an illustration on iPad Pro but you would have to import it out to any app such as Adobe Photoshop, Sketchbook Pro ( desktop version ), Manga Studio, etc.
But you won't be able to EXPORT your native files from desktop to iPad Pro to continue work on. That is a HUGE flaw.
That's fair enough, but we put all our digital camera photos onto existing iPads directly with the camera connection kit?
I think I'm definitely going to be getting one. I already use Adobe Comp to do quick website wireframes, and other apps for logo sketches. I'm currently using a Creative Stylus 2, but I get the feeling that Apple Pencil will work way better.
I just wish Adobe would create a fully fledged web design app, kind of like a streamlined Photoshop (which is what I work with on the desktop). And be fully compatible with layers. Comp is great as a start, perhaps the next feature they can add is layers. It already exports to PSD.
I have high hopes that developers will take advantage of the iPad Pro screen and Apple Pencil, because I think it could be a really awesome tool for design. The key is to be compatible with desktop apps as well, in case you want to carry on from there. But ideally, the iPad Pro app would be an actual usable, fully fledged solution for design.
I just wish Adobe would create a fully fledged web design app, kind of like a streamlined Photoshop (which is what I work with on the desktop). And be fully compatible with layers. Comp is great as a start, perhaps the next feature they can add is layers. It already exports to PSD.
I have high hopes that developers will take advantage of the iPad Pro screen and Apple Pencil, because I think it could be a really awesome tool for design. The key is to be compatible with desktop apps as well, in case you want to carry on from there. But ideally, the iPad Pro app would be an actual usable, fully fledged solution for design.
I'd contemplate sticking electrical tape around it for a rubbery feel.
I actually buy the optional non rubbery Wacom pens though as I prefer a solid feel.. Agreed it's a shame in a way it has no side buttons, but things like procreate have such good multitouch ui it's not really a big deal.
As journalists and bloggers leave the Apple media event in San Francisco, the first impressions of the brand-new iPad Pro have begun trickling out onto the Internet. Sites like Wired, Engadget, SlashGear, and TechnoBuffalo all got to go hands-on with the new tablet and came away with largely positive impressions of the device, with one of the only negatives being the large size of the device. At an unwieldy 12.9-inches, the consensus is that the iPad Pro may be too big for many users.
The first big takeaway about the iPad Pro Wired noticed was that despite the tablet's size, it's surprisingly comfortable to hold in one hand. The site also noted that the new 2732×2048 resolution screen is "smooth and fast," and gave particular praise to the $99 Apple Pencil accessory the company also debuted during today's media event.
Still, despite its positives, Wired believes that using a tablet in the place of a desktop or laptop computer will always remain a lesser experience. They called some of the experience of iOS "clunky," and were unsure of whether Microsoft's new Word experience, shown off at the event as well, would actually be a selling point for the work-focused device.Engadget also expressed surprise over the device's lightness, noting that the iPad Pro felt "lighter than it looks," but that in portrait mode, it can be a bit awkward and top-heavy. The site noted that the tablet's other accessory, the Smart Keyboard, provided some decent travel when pressing the keys down and overall felt like a step above other keyboards bundled in third-party case sleeves.
SlashGear called the iPad Pro "incredibly, vastly, ridiculously huge," but that its thin size and easiness to hold gives it the feel of a science fiction "digital newspaper." The site also called the four speakers on the device "laughably strong," and appreciated that they automatically adjust and change when displaying the tablet's orientation. Similar to other opinions, SlashGear's biggest negative on the tablet is more of a caveat: "it makes far more sense as a content creation tool than one for consumption."
Everyone who wasn't at Apple's event will be able to see the iPad Pro for themselves when the device launches this November in Space Gray, Gold, and Silver color options. The new tablet will be priced at $749 (32GB) and $949 (128GB) for the Wi-Fi models, while a 128GB Wi-Fi + Cellular option will come in at $1,079.
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