At the prices Apple is charging, they have every right to be.
I cannot see myself dropping the money on an iPad. I have an iPad Air 2 that I hardly use anymore. My larger phone and other devices have largely replaced it.
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iPad Pro Reviews Roundup: Blazingly Fast With a More Balanced Design, But Some Face ID and USB-C Quirks
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I cannot see myself dropping the money on an iPad. I have an iPad Air 2 that I hardly use anymore. My larger phone and other devices have largely replaced it.
I see you post often enough to know that you know how to use an ipad well. You can adapt to make it fit you. I doubt the average user can though. And if Apple puts in these other features that they insist pros need? You all of a sudden have a more complex product that will confuse the average user. They may as well go back to getting a PC they don't fully understand just to do the simple things they want. Apple has to be very careful and deliberate when changing iOS. The vast market of users is not that techie. Not to mention the things Apple needs to have control of because it benefits Apple...for example, storage is the way Apple upsells. Don't expect USB drives to ever work in the way we're used to.
They could, but I guess they would remove touch? I know Apple doesn't want to redo macOS for a touch friendly UI, so I don't see it happening. I think the only potential of that could be a dual boot option, when plugged into an external monitor, the iPad becomes a keyboard/trackpad combo and you can use macOS. As a type that though, I know it will never happen haha.
Why would macOS on an iPad be any better than Windows 10 on a Surface Pro? All MS vs Apple aside, there are design and UI considerations which Apple feels separate the two.
I think that at this point, for most people the iPad is a computer replacement. For programmers? No. For running a recording studio? No. For managing a suite of websites? No.
But that's the thing - most people don't do any of those things. They play on facebook, type documents for work or school, screw around on Netflix and youtube, and browse the web. If I didn't prefer (don't need, but definitely prefer) extended desktop at my job for projecting while maintaining a separate screen in front of me, I'd have already switched to the iPad two years ago. Maybe one day they'll get that feature, maybe not. No big deal though.
The other thing is that Apple gave their improved hardware and iPad focused software in iOS 11 last year. Could they have gone wild in iOS 12 this year? Yes. But instead they focused on fixing bugs and making it run faster and more stable. Why? Because now when they add a bunch of stuff to iOS 13 that others have already hinted at, they'll run without even a hiccup. Not only has the software already been optimized to save processing power on minor tasks, but the hardware has been boosted to the level of a MacBook Pro. NOW they can go ahead and add another set of new features to iPad next year. And if they do the cross platform marzipan stuff next year, that won't only mean that iOS apps can come to desktop, but that desktop devs will have an easier time moving their apps to iOS. Part of me wonders if that's what the close partnership with adobe for full photoshop is all about. It could are proof of concept to get desktop class software running on iOS without having to cut corners and without having to completely recode every element of the app. I'm ready for it.
But that's the thing - most people don't do any of those things. They play on facebook, type documents for work or school, screw around on Netflix and youtube, and browse the web. If I didn't prefer (don't need, but definitely prefer) extended desktop at my job for projecting while maintaining a separate screen in front of me, I'd have already switched to the iPad two years ago. Maybe one day they'll get that feature, maybe not. No big deal though.
The other thing is that Apple gave their improved hardware and iPad focused software in iOS 11 last year. Could they have gone wild in iOS 12 this year? Yes. But instead they focused on fixing bugs and making it run faster and more stable. Why? Because now when they add a bunch of stuff to iOS 13 that others have already hinted at, they'll run without even a hiccup. Not only has the software already been optimized to save processing power on minor tasks, but the hardware has been boosted to the level of a MacBook Pro. NOW they can go ahead and add another set of new features to iPad next year. And if they do the cross platform marzipan stuff next year, that won't only mean that iOS apps can come to desktop, but that desktop devs will have an easier time moving their apps to iOS. Part of me wonders if that's what the close partnership with adobe for full photoshop is all about. It could are proof of concept to get desktop class software running on iOS without having to cut corners and without having to completely recode every element of the app. I'm ready for it.
Absolutely love the way this new iPad Pro 12.9 looks. Little upset I just spent $1500 on an iPad and a keyboard, but I’m going to use it for 14 days and see if it’s worth 1 and a half grand.
I don’t usually let reviews pursuade my buying decisions, but these reviews are making me have buyers remorse even before it gets here.
I don’t usually let reviews pursuade my buying decisions, but these reviews are making me have buyers remorse even before it gets here.
It's sort of like my desktop running a program from a floppy drive. It would RIP!
That's how all this 'apple tablet is blazing fast' advertising translates to me.
That's how all this 'apple tablet is blazing fast' advertising translates to me.
But you’re kinda making my point. You’re still paying a premium for that big iPhone.
You’re paying more either way.
You’re justifying the more expensive purchase for one reason or another.
What difference does it make if it’s iPad or iPhone?
I'm not a photographer, but the file access limitation is really what's holding the iPad back. It is clearer than ever now.
The other day I was really thinking which I would rather get, the new Macbook Air or a 12.9" iPad Pro. A day later, I finished a book I was reading on my Kobo, and decided to load another one on - an epub file. With a computer, it's easy - plug in, drag and drop the file, done. With an iPad, it can't be done. Assuming an iPad can download an epub from a website, it can't put that file on an external USB device. There are workarounds with cloud document sending to Kobo, but that's a pain in the butt. That pretty much solidified the decision - it can't be an iPad.
Another example task I deal with all the time for my work that would be a nightmare on an iPad: Connect to an SFTP, download a zip file containing a bunch of Word, PowerPoint, and PDFed versions of the Word and PowerPoint files. The Word and PowerPoint files need to be updated based on some info online, and the PDFed versions need to be re-created. The whole thing has to be zipped again and uploaded to the SFTP. On a computer, it's all fairly straight forward. On an iPad - oh gawd...
I don't think you would be in the same market that Apple is going after then. $799 for the features and power you are getting, is a steal. For everyone wanting an iPad for general consumption and light work, the $329 iPad is a much better option.
No, I don’t think so. The 2018 cheap ipad is missing the thinner screen which also deals with sunlight and, I believe, has a slower processor than the ipad air 2. The Air 2 is actually a better machine if you don’t need a pencil.
More cop out answers, obviously a product released 5+ years ago is better, but the innovation level isn't the same
Oh god no. All that would do is create an OS that is a kludge and no well suited to a tablet. Instead, look at how MacOS is used and what capabilities need to be added and update iOS. A touchscreen neds an OS designed from the ground to be iperated by touch, not one where a pencil or finger simply replaces a mouse click.
You took my quote out of context.
It’s not impossible to replace a laptop with an iPad, depending on workload, I do this myself. My laptop sits in a closet.
The iPad however is terrible at being “a main computer” for students or in many other work environments.
The notion that the “Pro” moniker and pencil support finally make it a worthwhile laptop replacement is silly. It’s still an iPad.
Movies Anywhere is surprisingly versatile. I haven't tried yet to store a movie on an iDevice but I was shocked to see movies for codes redeemed elsewhere being available in the TV app on my iPhone.
The new Pencil has the random disconnection problem? I thought only my old Smart Keyboard has that problem.
You should be able to simply substitute a USB-C to USB-A charging cable, instead of the chargers, which is noticeably absent from the list of new things that Apple announced last Tuesday.
Hopefully, they will remember to add one of those for users who are in your position that want to continue using the 12w USB-A wall brick to charge. In the meantime, Anker makes USB-C to USB-A Powerline+ charging cables to the tune of $16.99 for a 3-pack - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H7Z43Z...ZY&ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&sr=1-10&tag=ianker-20
You probably should contact Anker to make sure they are certifying them to work on the new iPad Pro, although I see no reason why they would not, as they are advertising them as compatible with the MacBook. It may take a few weeks for accessory makers to catch up. Personally, I would purchase a single Apple 30w USB-C adapter (the 12" MacBook charger) and an Apple USB-C to USB-C charging cable and call it a day or possibly a USB-C charging bank, like the Anker PowerCore 26800 PD which comes with a 30w charger as well.
I cannot help you with the bezels, though. You wanted thicker bezels? Because you might be flying in the face of prevailing opinion on this site.
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I'm glad I picked up a Surface 3 for cheap so I could see how it worked- It's a decent little desktop Windows machine, but a pretty poor tablet IMO. Most of the software is awkward and unwieldly when used with touch and it is a perfect living example of why Apple hasn't slapped macOS onto iPads and called it a day. It's nice to be able to control it in a pinch, but I immediately reach for a mouse for just about everything.
I’m pretty sure, at this point, it’s the developers who are the limiting factor (Apple included).
Adobe, among others, show us it’s not an OS issue - developers CAN develop a better experience. Apple should lead the way and build some fully featured apps for iOS (Final Cut, Logiq, etc.)
I like the squared screen on my 2017 12.9 iPad Pro. The only big updates to the 2018 pro is the faster processor and new Apple Pencil. The 2017 is already so fast and for watching videos, email I think it suffices perfectly for daily needs. The new one to me just doesn't have enough for me to want to upgrade from the 2017. I barely use the pencil, and the screen is already amazing. I wish they would illuminate the Smart Keyboard so you can use this at night. I'll wait and probably skip this update in my opinion.
That's a good point. They need to keep things simple, while adding new functionality. Not an easy task I am sure. I ultimately just want to make sure they keep iOS as iOS, instead of a macOS clone, just for touch. I trust that Apple engineers will come up with new ways of doing things, not just adding on existing features. The storage point is fair, but I think the lack of external storage support is way too glaring for them to ignore.
I think I'll just hold on to my 12.9 512 2nd gen LTE, and 10.5 256 LTE for now. By the time I sell these devices it's still going to cost me quite a bit of money to get the same models I have now and for the simple tasks I do it seems like purely a lust purchase. I have a great job and make good money, but iPad prices are starting to be borderline MacBook prices. That's a problem. At what point is enough, enough with the price raising?