Unfortunately you are probably correct and that will prolong them from making a true iPad pro that could replace a laptop.
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Well, consider this. The Surface line outsells every other 2-in-i on the market, and the 2-in-1 market, on average, has almost doubled sales this year, and again Surface is well above the average of its OEM partners like Dell, Lenovo and HP. It was confirmed that there were at least a few million Pro 3's sold last year. So doubling that, at least 6 million Surface Pro's will sell this year and if we are being more realistic since it sells much more than its OEM partners' products do, perhaps 10 million.
Not necessarily. As much as I hate atom processor, there are people who prefer the form factor of MacBook and does not demand processing power of a properly specced laptop.
Define refined. The Surface Pro 4's display, for example, is the most accurate tablet display on the planet.
http://www.displaymate.com/Surface_Pro4_ShootOut_1.htm
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9727/the-microsoft-surface-pro-4-review-raising-the-bar/6
Apple already sells more iPads and MacBook Air/Retina's combined than Microsoft sells Surface devices. So why switch to the losing (and thus less profitable) strategy? Two separate product lines works better, and thus sells better. The customers money (in aggregate) has already spoken.
Seems to me the buying public and Enterprises disagree with you. Build quality has been fantastic on mine and tablet mode works exceedingly well. True not as many apps, but many many iOS and android apps are little more than a web wrapper. There of course are many exceptions and some very good apps missing on the Windows platform. However, there is nothing I have run across than another Windows variant doesn't fill the void - and many times - better.
This iPad Pro got enough hardware power to replace a laptop for creatives already... Only if Apple would open up file system access and support mouse interface for developers to "port" OS X app to run on iOS for similar experience and usability.
If you are getting a cumulative update, then you are not on the latest build.
you forgot /s
Broad well and Skylake i5 are from 2015 ....
except it's not true ...And the best part about it is the Surface Pro 4 at $999 outperforms both the entry level MacBook Pro and the iPad Pro while doing everything both can do... and more. I only need one device that is cheaper than either individually!
yes, because smart guys are all here, right ?
better than what ? give me a break ... BTW I think you could enjoy windows central website: a god place to speak about how "terrific" Microsoft products are.
No that is incorrect. Surface Pro has been growing. Specifically, up 44% this past quarter. And this is why Apple released the SurPad Pro.
wrong.
Microsoft's revenue was down during the first quarter of its 2016 fiscal year, the company reported today in an earnings release. Revenue came in at $20.4 billion, down 12 percent year over year, while income came in at $5.8 billion, down just 1 percent from the same time last year. Net income was at $4.6 billion, a 2 percent increase. Declines came from a number of categories, but one of the notable dips was in Surface hardware. While Surface revenue had been climbing quickly over the past year, it's now fallen to $672 million, down from $908 million in the same quarter of 2015.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/22/9599674/microsoft-q1-2016-earnings
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I'd say I get around 6ish, maybe 7 on the high end out of the SP4. I think the biggest problem with the SP3, and probably the reason why it eats so much battery power, is that it uses the SP2 internals in a body designed for the more efficient Skylake processors. Kicking that fan on every 15 seconds does have a bad habit of sucking down the juice.
As for the reason why apps use less power than Flash, it's because mobile apps are designed to be as efficient as possible. Flash isn't.
I didn't say the build quality is not "fantastic". I said it's not as refined as iPad.
People with limited needs and limited budget, or just want 2-in-1 just because are the market for surface because it is one and only, until Apple decides to compete.
I'd say with the Pro, Apple is just about in the 2-in-1 market. The SPs and Pro are far more similar than they are dissimilar in form and function.
Pick one up and feel it for yourself. The edge, thickness, and material, and the gap in the chassis, it could be better.
Apple understands users quite well. That's why Apple sells far more iOS devices to real users than MacBooks (or any other vendor's laptop model for that matter.) Users have voted for their needs with their money: in total revenue, iOS wins.
But Apple also sells lots of MacBooks for people with needs perhaps closer to yours.
This, I don't understand how people think using a desktop OS on a tablet is going to be easy to use. it is such a hassle clicking on the menus with a finger.
And I DONT WANT a desktop OS with giant buttons either.
Well if you are going there you need to include laptops from other OEMs as well. Microsoft is in the hardware market to push OEMs to build better devices and propagate Windows. Microsoft isn't in it to own the hardware market like Apple. Apples / Oranges on the respective strategies of each. Furthermore, the hybrid device is growing and tablet only is falling quarter over quarter. Additionally, it is Apple that is piggy backing off the Surface Pro 3 design.
You obviously don't understand the context... at all. Watch the full video. Jobs condemns styli of any kind as awkward and unwieldy, and believes touch and a desktop OS never should be mixed together. This meme is not implying that the iPhone will ever have a stylus. The point is this: Jobs was adamantly against a stylus on iOS products because he knew it would pull their focus from the consumer market, where they have the most success. Now, Cook has done exactly what Jobs told them not to do--put a stylus on an iOS device and market it to professionals and corporations.
Am I the only person who thinks that the Apple Pencil would be less of a ripoff if it was included with every iPad Pro purchase? Basically, it would would be the same mentality as including a bluetooth keyboard and Magic Mouse with every iMac and if the Apple Pencil is so vital to the iPad Pro experience, why not just included instead of making customers fork over another $100 for something that's already overpriced at $800? Is Cook that greedy? Then again iPads still don't come with earbuds, do they?
Not even close. Because OS X is (currently) still needed (by Apple itself, as well as developers) to run Xcode to develop iOS apps, as well as to develop the OS X and iOS operating systems themselves.
Exactly. Those who keep whining about an Apple hybrid fail to understand business. When the market demands it through sales, only then will Apple cannibalize their MacBook sales in favor of a hybrid device.
As of now these Surface devices just aren't selling enough or generating enough profit (if any) for Apple to release a direct competitor device.
You think apple people know what they are talking about?
yeah...i hate those type of people.
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hahaha, a powerful device gimped by a mobile OS the same as the iPhone runs.... [FACEPALM]
Oh Apple Apple Apple, how this could have been with a special touch version of OSX.
And as for the Surface Book being diluted, erm, yeah, a device that makes the iPad Pro look like a toy.
Loving this war of words, it's like Sony VS Microsoft during the PS3 VS 360 day's.
Oh Apple Apple Apple, how this could have been with a special touch version of OSX.
And as for the Surface Book being diluted, erm, yeah, a device that makes the iPad Pro look like a toy.
Loving this war of words, it's like Sony VS Microsoft during the PS3 VS 360 day's.
On both ends. The SP4 doesn't have nearly the same amount of touch-centric apps the Pro does, but the Pro doesn't have the apps that can take advantage of its awesome hardware yet.
I've always said we'd reach a point where a laptop and a tablet would be one and the same. We're getting close to it. Apple and MS both are coming to the same solution from opposite ends. But we're not there yet. Not entirely.
Other way around. Microsoft licensed technology and design patents from Apple to make the Surface.