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iPad Pro Tidbits: A9X Outperforms MacBook, Apple Pencil is Weighted, T-Mobile Financing and More

kewl ...

I'm already turning in my Air 2.

Apple Pencil is Weighted ?? Wanna run that by me again ?? "Weighted" ?

Jesus crist.. we live in a strange world after all.
 
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Renzatic said:
Yeah, it would. But it'd probably eat through that smaller battery like a fat kid on a cake.

I wouldn't mind seeing the pencil on the regular iPad, though. There's no reason why it shouldn't show up there eventually, other than Apple's love of pigeonholing features to certain products.
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I was choosing to ignore the battery life bit haha, maybe if they made the Air 3 as thick as the iPad 3 was then give it a decent enough battery size? make it lightweight enough?
But I can't see the stylus working on any other iPad, they'll want to keep something to make you buy it after all. Would be nice if it did work though with the other models.
 
iSheepHunter said:
If you are getting a cumulative update, then you are not on the latest build.
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Except it says it's a cumulative update for 1511, which is the name of TH2.

Max(IT) said:
you forgot /s

A BlackBerry fanboy also ...


Broad well and Skylake i5 are from 2015 ....

Reality check: this is not 2007 anymore AND the Apple Pencil won't be used on an iPhone .


except it's not true ...

yes, because smart guys are all here, right ?


better than what ? give me a break ... BTW I think you could enjoy windows central website: a god place to speak about how "terrific" Microsoft products are.



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wrong.
Microsoft's revenue was down during the first quarter of its 2016 fiscal year, the company reported today in an earnings release. Revenue came in at $20.4 billion, down 12 percent year over year, while income came in at $5.8 billion, down just 1 percent from the same time last year. Net income was at $4.6 billion, a 2 percent increase. Declines came from a number of categories, but one of the notable dips was in Surface hardware. While Surface revenue had been climbing quickly over the past year, it's now fallen to $672 million, down from $908 million in the same quarter of 2015.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/22/9599674/microsoft-q1-2016-earnings
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I do like BBOS, or did. Never got to use it, but always admired it.

Renzatic said:
I'd say I get around 6ish, maybe 7 on the high end out of the SP4. I think the biggest problem with the SP3, and probably the reason why it eats so much battery power, is that it uses the SP2 internals in a body designed for the more efficient Skylake processors. Kicking that fan on every 15 seconds does have a bad habit of sucking down the juice.

As for the reason why apps use less power than Flash, it's because mobile apps are designed to be as efficient as possible. Flash isn't.
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All of that makes perfect sense. I'd like to see what Microsoft can do with the Core M.

Poochi said:
Pick one up and feel it for yourself. The edge, thickness, and material, and the gap in the chassis, it could be better.
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It could be thinner, sure, but the hardware is pretty amazing.

jlo1158 said:
I thought it was very funny. Probably accurate also.
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I guess humor is subjective.
 
Max(IT) said:
again, this is no 2007 anymore ...
iOS is changed since then, so has users' needs.



surely better than you (and me).



yes, Apple is doomed .... except they are doing better today than when SJ was CEO.
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I highly doubt that.
 
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AliMacs said:
An oversized iPad air! iOS really shouldn't be used in any other form than on a smartphone.
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I actually disagree. OS X on a tablet would be a usability nightmare. iOS is much better it's just that it's still so immature and underdeveloped. It should have full keyboard support baked throughout the OS to work very well in every single Apple app. It should support the Magic Trackpad and bring a cursor onto the screen only when your fingers are on the trackpad. Those two things alone would make the iPad much much more usable even with iOS. I think we will see better keyboard support with ios10 but until I can pair a trackpad it will never replace a laptop for me. I can live with iOS just fine. I really like it actually but I can absolutely not be as productive without a trackpad.
 
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apolloa said:
I was choosing to ignore the battery life bit haha, maybe if they made the Air 3 as thick as the iPad 3 was then give it a decent enough battery size? make it lightweight enough?
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They probably could, but it'd be a step back for them design-wise. The end result would be something like a half-assed iPad AirPro. It'd be nice if you REALLY want a 10 inch screen, but it's not as light and portable as the Air, or as useful as the larger screened Pro. Not real strengths gained for a lot of weaknesses.

But I can't see the stylus working on any other iPad, they'll want to keep something to make you buy it after all. Would be nice if it did work though with the other models.
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And the tragic thing is that they COULD throw the Pencil on even the Mini without any sacrifices. But it's one of the biggest selling points of the Pro, so I'm pretty sure that's where it'll stay.
 
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apolloa said:
Take the iMac, it's gone from a nice powerful useful machine you could easily repair, to one that's now glued together to save costs and has no optical drive to save costs, all marketed on how thin it is for more money than it used to cost, the only real winner is Apple....
Now I would buy a modern day iMac, but I would worry about anything going wrong and someone having to get the 'heatgun' out to fix it as opposed to a screwdriver!
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I've had my 27" iMac apart (2013 model) and yes the display is held with adhesive. No glue gun needed, just some tools to get it apart. And it went back together easily. The tools were a small set all computer geeks should not be without - cost about $20 from iFixit.
 
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Michael Goff said:
All of that makes perfect sense. I'd like to see what Microsoft can do with the Core M.
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Other than the early release bugs, my experiences with the M3 have been pretty damn good.

One of the first things I did when I got it was try to push it to see how far it'd go. It went surprisingly far before it started to get bogged down, and I never was able to crash it, even when rendering a little scene in Blender.

firewood said:
And filed that patent over 4 years ago, before Surface was shipped.
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If you look at it, it's only superficially like the Surface Book. It's more a MacBook with a detachable screen that the base can broadcast to.

One of the most interesting thing about the Books is that all the hardware components are in the screen itself, with some extra hardware in the base to give it more of an oomph when they're attached together.
 
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FightTheFuture said:
I can't believe I'm reading some of these comments today. They mirror the same nonsense from 2010. A tablet running a desktop OS is basically a notebook - let it go and buy one or the other.
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Lot of hate on here today, and for what? People are so angry... Over a new Apple device? If you don't like it, don't buy it, and why in the world would you waste your time and energy to come on here just to piss and moan? Reminds me of the little child who berates something simply because they are filled with envy and jealousy.
 
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dumastudetto said:
There's no doubt this is the most impressive tablet anyone has ever built. Performance is staggering and all the reviews I've read are hugely positive.

If you want the best possible tablet experience, there is no doubt iPad Pro is the device you quite simply must own.
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How many are you getting?
 
bjet767 said:
OK

I'll buy one when:

1. It comes with a physical keyboard.
2. It's as light as my MB 12"
3. It runs OSX.
4. It has a SSD with at least 500g
5. It will run xCode.
6. It has the full OSX file system.

Until then it's a big iPad, which has a place but falls short of an OSX based system.

Notice Microsoft has distance itself from the ARM processors and put its focus into the Intel, full featured side of the fence. Apple can mock all they want, but Windows hardware is gaining ground. Now if they can just run OSX on the latest Intel Surface and Book they might really have something.

I would love to use the "Pencil" on a touchscreen OSX MB 12" or some version as light!
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You're not the target customer for the iPad Pro....Good news though, Apple sells other stuff. ;)
 
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applezulu said:
If I had to venture a guess, it would be because this place is crawling with trolls under contract to Microsoft, Samsung and Google. Mind you, there are also people who just like to harsh on things for sport, but I think criticisms like "the iPad Pro is no good until it runs on OSX" probably originate with MS-funded goons.

Tim Cook's comment about Surface pro being "deluded" ("diluted" makes more sense contextually) is consistent with someone coming from the Apple business model criticizing the MS/Google/Samsung business model. Apple doesn't make products that try to be all things to all people. They never have. By intentionally not doing so, Apple devices tend to do what they are designed to do reliably well, because they've limited unnecessary variables in both hardware and software design. The iPad Pro is aimed at a specific niche market, professionals who want some screen size and some power, but don't have any need for a full-fledged OSX Notebook. It's aimed at a specific bandwidth within the Apple product line that exists between the iPad and a MacBook Air.

The Surface Book is centered on a similar bandwidth, but also tries to overlap the space held by a Surface on the low-end and a notebook computer on the other end. Cook's point is that by trying to occupy all that space, you end up with a device that has too much stuff for a tablet, and not enough for a notebook.

On the flip side, the commenters here who say the iPad Pro should run on OSX are (in some cases deliberately) missing the point of the Apple business model. An OSX iPad Pro would cannibalize a MacBook Air's space in the product line, wouldn't function well for interfacing with OSX, which was written from the ground up for devices with keyboards and touchpads, and would be a tablet that doesn't run iOS, which was written from the ground-up for touchscreen tablets. Interestingly, such an OSX tablet device would deserve exactly the criticism Mr. Cook made about the Surface Book. It would be 'trying to be a tablet and a notebook and really succeed at being neither. It would be sort of diluted.
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Running OS X on an iPad Pro may not be the answer but iOS in its current state does not work well for the iPad UI-wise. Since the iOS 7, it became apparent that it was mostly designed for the iPhone rather than both at once. The previous iOS UI (from 4-6.1) was definitely better optimized for the larger iPad displays than they are now. iOS on the iPad now still looks half-assed in that the UI is now essentially a blown up version of the iPhone interface and doesn't even bother to take advantage of the larger glass canvas. For example, whereas the original iPad interface reduced the size of Siri and the Notification Center so that it didn't completely dominate the screen, now it does and it looks like they never bothered to tweak the interface from the iPhone. The Music app, previously (and appropriately) resembled the desktop iTunes player now is just a poorly scaled-up version of the iPhone app. The app switcher on the iPad should be more like Mission Control/Expose especially on the Pro considering the even larger display but no, it uses the same card view which only really fits the iPhone interface.

The lack of recent proper UI optimization will prevent me from buying any iPad and definitely won't be able to truly take the Pro seriously. I mean, if you're gonna call the device iPad Pro, make sure you have software running on it that stays true to the name and not a blown-up iPhone UI.
 
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FightTheFuture said:
I can't believe I'm reading some of these comments today. They mirror the same nonsense from 2010. A tablet running a desktop OS is basically a notebook - let it go and buy one or the other.
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I use both a Macbook Pro and an iPad (plus iPhone), together, and separately. What's wrong with that? Who says you can only use one device?
 
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Michael Goff said:
To all of you who keep throwing out OS X as a good thing for a tablet. It's not. The OS is not made for touch. The apps do not have UI that would be good for touch. OS X isn't exactly swimming in applications as a desktop OS, and would be basically starting fresh with an OS not designed or optimized for touch/ARM and no applications.

At that point, might as well get a Surface.
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Is there a reason they can't make OS X more suitable for a touch screen?
 
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