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The lack of recent proper UI optimization will prevent me from buying any iPad and definitely won't be able to truly take the Pro seriously. I mean, if you're gonna call the device iPad Pro, make sure you have software running on it that stays true to the name and not a blown-up iPhone UI.

This is a Rev.A product. Give it three months and there will be plenty of optimized software.
 
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I cannot pick up an iPad Pro and perform my professional photography tasks on it. I can do that with a Surface Pro 3 or 4 or the Surface Pro Book - not saying the execution is perfect but I CAN DO THAT on one and not on the other.
There are a lot of articles that can show you how to take and edit "professionally" photography on an iPhone/iPad. Articles from professional photographers around the world.
 
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Is there a reason they can't make OS X more suitable for a touch screen?

No, there is nothing.

Step 1 is finding what to replace the Menu Bar with. Multi layer drop menus don't work well with touch.

Step 2 is their own built in apps.

Step 3 is all of the rest of the apps.

Simplifying and likely forgetting.
 
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Not a shock that the iPad Pro performs significantly better than the MacBook. The MacBook is a crippled machine. It's basically Apple's netbook, just a lot more expensive. It is a shock that it performs better than a MacBook Pro, though.

I don't see replacing my MacBook Air with an iPad Pro anytime soon.
 
Not a shock that the iPad Pro performs significantly better than the MacBook. The MacBook is a crippled machine. It's basically Apple's netbook, just a lot more expensive. It is a shock that it performs better than a MacBook Pro, though.

I don't see replacing my MacBook Air with an iPad Pro anytime soon.

Go yell at Intel about early Core M.
 
This is a Rev.A product. Give it three months and there will be plenty of optimized software.
Highly doubt it because it's on the software side and Apple has not bothered to finish the half-assed (and questionable) redesign that was iOS 7 and now we're on iOS 9.1 so Apple is definitely gonna drag it out as long as it can.
 
My best advice for this device is to continue to push it as a laptop replacement until there are enough apps and an entire new iteration of iPad Pro that delivers on that promise. It has the potential and backing to go there if it doesn't fail.

My other suggestion for Apple is to provide Mac/OSX as a Service (Server park of Mac-computers). Essentially making it affordable and easy to use a mac as a virtual machine on the iPad Pro (and any other device). This way you could go OSX when iOS isn't enough. Granted, there is the issue of network connectivity, but I still think it is a good idea. You also get the benefit of doing the same with the iPhone. Plug the iPhone into a monitor and keyboard and be able to go OSX. Windows 10 get's this opportunity with just being a hybrid OS. But the Virtual Machine solution could work too.
 
I use both a Macbook Pro and an iPad (plus iPhone), together, and separately. What's wrong with that? Who says you can only use one device?
What I meant was the insinuation that folks can't buy an iPad because it doesn't run OSX. But a tablet is a tablet, not a notebook. If you buy one (a Surface 4 for instance), don't expect it to be both.

Mainly I'm frustrated with reading the same comments from when the iPad was released. What's next? Complaints that it doesn't run Flash?

Apple has not bothered to finish the half-assed (and questionable) redesign that was iOS 7 and now we're on iOS 9.1
Care to elaborate on what is half-assed in the design of iOS9?

I can see how you might think iOS7 isn't your taste, but at this point iOS is just as, if not more functional than iOS6.
 
I would buy one when apple adapts IOS finally to bigger screens. It's a complete joke the amount of wasted screen real-estate and wasted power and potential.

Even the multi-tasking is pretty crap.

Give me a proper file system, the ability to plus in hard drives via a usb-type c, The ability to open the same apps at the same time, a windowing system, better app folder management etc

basically give me OSX on the ipad (Bascially adapt IOS to look and feel similar to OSX), and then we can talk.


It doesnt matter one bit how powerful this device is, if it simply looks and feels pretty much like the first ipad.
 
You should all be aware that Apple's A processors will one day power Macs. The MacBook will be the first to implement this new processor, hence the motherboard size is similar to that of an iPad.

If you don't believe that, you need to get your eyes checked because Apple wants to do everything on their own. They don't like being dependent on someone else.
I fully agree. The past few years Apple have discussed the A chips, they nearly always refer to them as desktop class. It's not by accident. The iPad Pro could currently be chalked up as a public proof of concept device that it can have the performance they want it to before migrating into further devices. The Macbook would be a perfect place to begin.

We are probably now looking at the same moment in time when the PowerPC chips from Motorola/IBM weren't keeping up and switched to Intel. Now it's Intel fighting to keep up with Apple's A chips. At that same time it was also revealed that OS X had been living a double life, PPC/X86. With OS X just having completed a 'tune-up' year, I think we could soon see another 'double-life' announcement. Plenty of time there to also work on side projects. This years WWDC could be telling for the future direction and a perfect platform.

Recent reports that Intel has ~1000 employees working to win and complete projects for Apple. That's an awful lot of mud being thrown at the wall to try and have a client stay.
 
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Tim Cook Calls Microsoft's Surface Book "Diluted"

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The Irish Independent has published an interview with Apple CEO Tim Cook about the company's plans to expand in Ireland, iPad Pro and more, with his comment about Microsoft's new Surface Book drawing some attention:Update: Apple says Cook meant "diluted," not "deluded," in reference to the above comment.
Follow our iPad Pro timeline for the latest news about the 12.9-inch tablet.

Wow, the ipad is the absolute epitome of "diluted". Apps are diluted programs. The ipad is a diluted computer. Having a diluted experience was necessary when the ipad was released due to hardware constraints, and I applaud Apple for doing such an incredible job with the original ipad versus what was on the market at the time. But it always confuses me why consumers continue to want a "diluted" experience when they don't have to have one anymore. I fully understand why Apple does, it makes more money convincing consumers they need a computer AND a tablet.

Just another nonsensical "deluded" statement, like toasters and refrigerators, cars and trucks.
 
What happens if the pencil falls off the table? I'd guess that's where they were paying their attention.

Microsoft has that covered, since on their Microsoft Surface Book the pen magnetically attaches to the side

http://cdn2.pcadvisor.co.uk/cmsdata/reviews/3627119/surface-hands-on-main.jpg

u would be able to use OSX with just the pencil only.. its do-able. so it will work as u still have the precision.

by the time that happens, iPad Pro would be powerful enough to do full blown video editing.
 
There are a lot of articles that can show you how to take and edit "professionally" photography on an iPhone/iPad. Articles from professional photographers around the world.

Sorry.. Shoulda given more context for those who don't shoot photos as a business. Sure, I've edited the odd photo here and there on vacation on my iPad. I've even used Lightroom Mobile to make selections for editing a couple of times. However the thought of fully editing the raw format files for an entire photoshoot on an iPad is utterly unreasonable. The idea is just ludicrous with the current software. Depending on the type of shoot the number of photos could range from 300 or 400 to thousands of photos. One would have to be desperate or masochistic to do that all on an iPad with the current software options and OS. It's just not conducive to such work.
 
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No, there is nothing.

Step 1 is finding what to replace the Menu Bar with. Multi layer drop menus don't work well with touch.

Step 2 is their own built in apps.

Step 3 is all of the rest of the apps.

Simplifying and likely forgetting.
When that happens then maybe it will deserved to be called a iPad pro and would then be a suitable replacement for a laptop. I was really hoping when they first announced a iPad pro it would be a decent cross over device but I personnly think it falls short in its current state, admittitly I have not laid my hands on one yet just going by what I am hearing.
 
That old Core M CPU is a dog. Wasn't such a bad thing a few years back but to have an iPad outperform a Mac just shows you how much Apple wants to dump Macs but can't bring itself to admit it. Damn shame.
 
I can't believe he called being able to run a full OS "diluted." Then that must mean just running iOS is just plain water.
 
Sorry.. Shoulda given more context for those who don't shoot photos as a business. Sure, I've edited the odd photo here and there on vacation on my iPad. I've even used Lightroom Mobile to make selections for editing a couple of times. However the thought of fully editing the raw format files for an entire photoshoot on an iPad is utterly unreasonable. The idea is just ludicrous with the current software. Depending on the type of shoot the number of photos could range from 300 or 400 to thousands of photos. One would have to be desperate or masochistic to do that all on an iPad with the current software options and OS. It's just not conducive to such work.

People who don't shoot DSLRs for business or serious hobby don't understand. They generally think about their iPhone pics. Beyond photoshop is an extensive number of plugins that would also need to be available on iOS. Regardless, the iPad Pro is an iPad Plus - not a Pro.
 
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I don't think the two are equivalent. The surface is trying to do everything that a laptop can do but in tablet form. Tim says the iPad Pro will replace laptops for many people. Meaning that it can't necessarily do everything that a laptop can, just the things that most people use a laptop for.

While I do agree that the Surface is deluded in what it is trying to be, I do not agree that Tim should be speaking out against it. It sends the message that Tim is actually intimidated by it and therefor has to bad mouth it. Instead of acting as though it is of so little concern to him to even be worth commenting on.

Tim was referring to the Surface Book in his remark, not the Surface Pro.

I second you in the second part of your post. Apple's comment on the Surface book is unsurprising however, since we both know Apple has always poked fun at their competitors. We've all watched a keynote or two of Apple's. ;)

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