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Who knows Apple might put something more powerful than the A14X in the 12.9” pro, maybe one of the apple silicon chips they plan on putting into the 13” Macbook pro. They may then put in the A14x in the new 11” ipad pro (if they do release a 11” version though).
 
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While this looks amazing, the OS still really limits what the device can do. Yes the device itself is new and has some new hardware features, but it's still limited by the OS itself. I want a new iPad, but I constantly remind myself, what would this new iPad do that my current one can't? Yes it might be a little bit faster, a brighter screen.. but in all reality, when it comes to day to day use.. what are these new models really doing that any of the (current or past) pro models/air can't currently do?
You can argue that about pretty much any iteration of a mainstream electronic product lately. I went from the iPhone X to the 12 Pro and what it does is the same, better cameras, low light, brighter screen, etc. but noting earth shattering to my daily life.
 
MicroLED exists and even in commercial applications, but it's very expensive and currently sized for massive displays (like 100 or more inches) with six figure price tags.
If that is your definition of “not vapourware” then you may as well have called SED “not vapourware”.
 
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I'll get one of these. But I refuse to go ARM on the Mac
Big mistake to ditch Intel and AMD. They have years of experience designing Processors. APPLE makes errors. lots just look at macOS beta's.
Lmao how adorable, you must not have heard of all the exploits intel’s been swimming in, and how high end CPUs only a few generations old have all been crippled due to wonky patches. Tell me more about how leaving intel is a mistake
 
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Looking at the line up of iPads vs iPhones, I'm a bit surprised they don't simplify the naming conventions, and put out the next line of iPads as:
iPad 12 Mini - 8" A14
iPad 12 - 11" A14
iPad 12 Pro - 11" A14X better screen/cameras/etc
iPad 12 Pro Max - 13" A14X better screen/cameras/etc

And quite frankly, I can see no reason not to also release an iPad 12 Pro Mini and iPad 12 Max. And similarly, an iPhone 12 Pro Mini, and iPhone 12 Max. And on the same idea, MacBook Air 12", 14", and 16", and MacBook Pro 12", 14", and 16". Although there might be limited demand for all of those, the resulting customer satisfaction would be the payback, and the extra overhead to add additional tooling to the existing process would be small.
 
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This will not be equal to OLED.
In what ways? What I'm looking for is true, unlit blacks.

From what I'm reading, everything's better with microLED : 50% less energy, thinner, better luminosity, more vibrant colors...

Edit : It was microLED, not miniLED. Got confused.
 
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March seems like a good time, if I recall the rumors from the 2020 Pro launch March does seem about right. I will be very curious to see what the battery life will be like with mLED displays.
 
The entire purpose of beta version software is to expose bugs and fix them. Errors are expected.

Comparing beta software to production CPUs is bizarre and unfair. But for what it's worth, production CPUs have flaws as well.

Intel CPUs had the Spectre and Meltdown flaws, for example. And the famous "eratta not bug" of the Pentium.

Who knows Apple might put something more powerful than the A14X in the 12.9” pro, maybe one of the apple silicon chips they plan on putting into the 13” Macbook pro. They may then put in the A14x in the new 11” ipad pro (if they do release a 11” version though).

I think the iPad Pros will have A14X as I believe the entry-level ASi Mac laptop.

If that is your definition of “not vapourware” then you may as well have called SED “not vapourware”.

I don't know what acronym "SED" stands for, but to me "vapourware" is something that was announced, but never released for sale. Think the AirPower charging pad.

That being said, I will spot you that Samsung's "The Wall" TVs might very well become "vaporware", at least for home use. The individual MicroLED tiles exist and can be purchased for industrial installations (like sports stadiums), but Samsung has yet to announce a price or availability date for the "consumer" models they have been showing at CES the past few years.
 
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This will not be equal to OLED.

In what ways? What I'm looking for is true, unlit blacks.

From what I'm reading, everything's better with microLED : 50% less energy, thinner, better luminosity, more vibrant colors...

OLED is an "emissive" technology so every pixel emits it's own light. This is why they can offer "perfect" blacks - there is no backlight bleeding through. MicroLED will also have each pixel emit it's own light and will also offer "perfect" blacks.

MiniLED is like traditional LED in that it requires a backlight shining through it. Because the backlights are much smaller ("mini") the overall black level is superior compared to full-backlight LEDs (where the whole panel is backlit), they can't quite reach the "perfect" blacks of OLED since there will be some light shining through. It will still be pretty darn good, however.
 
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Its fine, if its dead to you then move on. In your post I see tons of misconception and lack of understanding but you don't come across as someone who wants to be open minded. So, I won't waste my time trying to explain to you where you lack more information.

AS is a big deal and it will help Apple massively. (and the market for that matter)
You can say all you want but eventually you will probably be back.

In the meantime, do buy Lenovo :D :D :D

I read your reply as "I'm going to ridicule you, but I actually don't know anything, so I won't go any further, but I got to make myself feel good".

I am quite technically inclined, please try me. I'm all ears.

What misconception exists? AS does not support dual boot, it is not an X86 platform, so any execution of X86 code requires emulation, which is an added layer of pain in the ass. It's never going to be as smooth as X86 code on a native X86 platform, performance will be lacking.

People who do more then doodle and look at Facebook need to use serious professional software, and unfortunately as is, X86 Mac's are hardly supported. These companies will have less then zero interest in releasing software for niche small market share ARM machines.

Exactly one engineering program I use is supported on MacOS, Matlab. Everything else I either spin up a VM or boot into W10 (should I need GPU acceleration, which I often do).

Apple fanboys need to chill out and realize they comprise the tiniest iota of the computing market share, they do not matter to the bulk of the professional computing world.

I need a machine for professional use, so I will be moving to something like a Thinkpad Extreme. As will many people I know who have thus far held out using Macs.

I could care less if AS is higher performance if it can’t do anything I need it to do. That’s like having a Ferrari limited to going 30. I’d rather have a BMW I can go 200 in. Might not be as nice, but it is actually practical to my use case.
 
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If a "professional" piece of software only runs on Windows, then is it really fair to say that company supports Macs now just because a Mac can run Windows?

How many people buy a Mac to primarily (or solely) run Windows and Windows apps? I know one person who bought one of the original polycarbonate MacBooks and only ran it in BootCamp because he liked the design more than any Windows laptop, but I expect that is not a very large number of people.

I run Windows in BootCamp on my iMac 5K during the day because I work from home now and it's easier to use Windows because my workflow is based around PowerShell. Yes, I can run PS on Mac via Homebrew and all the Office apps I use have native macOS versions. And I access a lot of Azure resources which are accessed via the browser. But I boot back into macOS at the end of my workday and use it for everything else - including a number of native macOS "professional" apps. And when I eventually go back to the physical office and only work from home on Fridays, I will probably delete my BootCamp partition and just do my work off my Windows work laptop like I used to.

And ASi Macs might very well expand the market for "professional" applications since they can be run on iPads (and even large iPhones) as well as Macs, expanding the available market for less development resources thanks to a now common development environment.
 
I don't know what acronym "SED" stands for

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SED was a Toshiba TV technology that was supposed to utilize Canon printing technology for production. It was in a way a sort of flat-screen CRT, that looked noticeably better than LCD and even plasma, with great motion characteristics. But it ran into both legal and technical issues and ultimately proved too expensive to implement for consumer use.
 
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I'm in the same boat--just received my new 12.9 IPP yesterday, in fact! I have until February to return it, thanks to B&H's relaxed return policy, so plenty of time to think about it. One thing to consider: the rumor states release in March, but this would be a departure from the last several releases, which have been running on an 18-month cycle. So, it could be in March, but it might very well not happen until Fall 2021. How long do you want to wait?
It will definitely be by spring. They’ll need new hardware to launch prior to WWDC. I’ve been waiting to upgrade from my 2016 IPP 9.7” but I don’t think I can even wait until March as the battery’s shot now.
 
You are not informed enough. Don't you remember the fiasco with Intel chips and their hardware flaw that plagued all their chips for few generations before they fixed it?
I wonder if the Spectre and Meltdown mitigations are the major cause of UI hangs I've been experiencing on Mojave since macOS Mojave 14.5+. Cold Booting takes a long time to get to a responsive desktop (Docker and ClamXav seems to be affecting UI responsiveness). Lately every time I try to launch MS Office it's gotten stuck with no UI response for 20 seconds at least. All this on a Quad-core SSD MacBook Air (2015).

Not sure if Big Sur will also face this UI hanging issue.
 
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