Hard not to do seeing as Flash is on just about every website.
He did this on purpose.
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Hard not to do seeing as Flash is on just about every website.
He did this on purpose.
the ipad doesnt need a camera, now....
why is everyone demanding a camera for the iPad? to those who don't get it:
this device is aimed at 'families' who want to do light browsing on the couch/kitchen/garden, check emails, read some books and listen to music.. it's not for travelling, it's not designed to be used hours away from a power outlet.. this thing is going to lie on your couchtable, as a convenient way to look up emails, web content or read..
not more, not less... why should apple intentionally narrow the range of use by explicitly stating what they intended it for? people should find their own usecases for the ipad, but it's cleary aimed for homeuse, a "third-device", dedicated to the funktionality apple promoted.
PS: just as the iphone, it needs flash to "be the best browsing experience"... but as someone already pointed out; flashgames, videostreaming, porn
and what not is possible with flash.. all of which (except for porn) is sold via iTunes......go figure.....
edit: and it's a """great""" gaming device for the kids. parents are able to control which games/content they can consume
why is everyone demanding a camera for the iPad? to those who don't get it:
this device is aimed at 'families' who want to do light browsing on the couch/kitchen/garden, check emails, read some books and listen to music.. it's not for travelling, it's not designed to be used hours away from a power outlet.. this thing is going to lie on your couchtable, as a convenient way to look up emails, web content or read..
not more, not less... why should apple intentionally narrow the range of use by explicitly stating what they intended it for? people should find their own usecases for the ipad, but it's cleary aimed for homeuse, a "third-device", dedicated to the funktionality apple promoted.
PS: just as the iphone, it needs flash to "be the best browsing experience"... but as someone already pointed out; flashgames, videostreaming, porn
and what not is possible with flash.. all of which (except for porn) is sold via iTunes......go figure.....edit: and it's a """great""" gaming device for the kids. parents are able to control which games/content they can consume
Flash IS standard. Yeah, HTML5 is coming. Just as is holographic storage. What you have now is a flash based web that the iPad can't access and it will remain like that for at least a few years.
I'm not sure what is more pathetic, making product screenshots and videos that contains features that don't exist in the product or people whining about other posters who are upset about it.
For the people who want flash: this product isn't for you. stop complaining and get a netbook.
For the people who hate flash and/or think Steve Jobs will be the one greeting them at the pearly gates instead of Jesus: you're pathetic. get over the fact that people are upset. your effort to impede free speech is why so many people think we are hopelessly devoted to apple when in fact we like revolutionary products and cool technology.
The product is, in fact, a tremendously large iPod touch. It has the same UI, even the same form factor. It is simply huge... If you want the product, AWESOME; I'd love for you to whip out the credit card so my AAPL stock will go up. If not, move on.
It's not even legal to sell the damn thing and everyone is wasting their energy fighting over it already.
For the people who want flash: this product isn't for you. stop complaining and get a netbook.
For the people who hate flash and/or think Steve Jobs will be the one greeting them at the pearly gates instead of Jesus: you're pathetic. get over the fact that people are upset. your effort to impede free speech is why so many people think we are hopelessly devoted to apple when in fact we like revolutionary products and cool technology.
The product is, in fact, a tremendously large iPod touch. It has the same UI, even the same form factor. It is simply huge... If you want the product, AWESOME; I'd love for you to whip out the credit card so my AAPL stock will go up. If not, move on.
It's not even legal to sell the damn thing and everyone is wasting their energy fighting over it already.
This statement reminds of watching State of the Union address the other night when Obama pointed out the pointless fight between Dems and GOP in how they blindly vote NO against each other's bills no matter what the content is.
And reminds me of a child with his eyes closed, fingers plugging his ears, and making that annoying waahhhh sound because he/she doesn't want to listen to reason.
Years and Years? I don't know. The iPhone, iPod Touch (all mobile Safari Browsers) including all desktop Safari Browsers, Chrome, Microsoft Internet Explorer with Chrome Frame installed and Opera all support many of HTML 5's features (such as non-plug-in support for video). The next Firefox update has been said to fully support HTML 5. So it is already here, being used and supported.
Now being fully "Recommended" by the W3C, that sir, maybe years away. But most (including Google, Apple and many others) are not waiting that long and neither am I.
Not only Flash
I agree. But the problem is a lot bigger than Flash. I dont think its right for Apple to say we cant have Flash, JavaFX, Silverlight etc. functionality in the browser. Or certainly they can deny those but then it aint the whole internet
I agree. But the problem is a lot bigger than Flash. I dont think its right for Apple to say we cant have Flash, JavaFX, Silverlight etc. functionality in the browser. Or certainly they can deny those but then it aint the whole internet
I think it's pretty obvious.
The iPad does NOT support Flash. Steve showed that in his demo when the broken plug-in icon showed up.
The iPad ads are created on a computer, not an iPad. Therefore any screen shots presented display Flash correctly.
A case of false advertising if anything. But just squash the rumor right now, NO Flash on the iPad.
The iPad does NOT support Flash. Steve showed that in his demo when the broken plug-in icon showed up.
The iPad ads are created on a computer, not an iPad. Therefore any screen shots presented display Flash correctly.
A case of false advertising if anything. But just squash the rumor right now, NO Flash on the iPad.
How is it false advertising? Looking at the images on Apple's site, you have no reason to believe or expect that they're showing anything other than static images (JPEG, PNG or whatever) - there's no claim made anywhere that the device is showing Flash content, or that it supports Flash. Apple aren't responsible for you reading something into it that isn't specifically stated.
No flash = no purchase for me. It's not that I like flash. The problem is that many websites use it and without it, the iPon will NOT be a complete way to view websites. Period.
It looks like Adobe is moving forward with it, so that is a good sign.
In order for this thing to be of value, it needs to do what I, the customer, expect it to. I guarantee that if I bought and gifted one of these things to anyone I know who is not a techie, they would be pissed off within minutes of trying to browse a "broken" web. And yes, in their minds it would be broken, not matter how wrong that is. People don't care. They either see something that works or something that is broken. A stupid puzzle piece in the middle of their New York Times == broken.
Also, I think that most people would really gravitate toward having an application as awesome as One Note and a stylus on this thing. That would be killer. Apple talks about forming technology to match what users expect, not the other way around. BUT ----- they force a user to work the way Apple wants them to instead of how they would naturally work... with a pen and paper. Someone tell me how this makes sense?
This thing needs to be something that I can whip out and jot down notes quickly and effortlessly when I am in a fast paced briefing. It needs to surf ALL of the web (java,flash,etc. all that ****). It needs to work flawlessly with Exchange. It needs to provide a way to edit MS OFFICE documents on the go. It needs to stream Netflix.
I am hoping a lot of this will come. I bet it probably will. I know that Apple did a fantastic job adding missing functionality to the iPhone except for Flash and ToDo tasks.
It looks like Adobe is moving forward with it, so that is a good sign.
In order for this thing to be of value, it needs to do what I, the customer, expect it to. I guarantee that if I bought and gifted one of these things to anyone I know who is not a techie, they would be pissed off within minutes of trying to browse a "broken" web. And yes, in their minds it would be broken, not matter how wrong that is. People don't care. They either see something that works or something that is broken. A stupid puzzle piece in the middle of their New York Times == broken.
Also, I think that most people would really gravitate toward having an application as awesome as One Note and a stylus on this thing. That would be killer. Apple talks about forming technology to match what users expect, not the other way around. BUT ----- they force a user to work the way Apple wants them to instead of how they would naturally work... with a pen and paper. Someone tell me how this makes sense?
This thing needs to be something that I can whip out and jot down notes quickly and effortlessly when I am in a fast paced briefing. It needs to surf ALL of the web (java,flash,etc. all that ****). It needs to work flawlessly with Exchange. It needs to provide a way to edit MS OFFICE documents on the go. It needs to stream Netflix.
I am hoping a lot of this will come. I bet it probably will. I know that Apple did a fantastic job adding missing functionality to the iPhone except for Flash and ToDo tasks.
Not to totally flog you but people like you are part of the problem... Relying on Flash because it's easy... Have you seen some of the animations that are possible with HTML5 + JavaScript? It's pretty damned advanced and tutorials make it easy... I don't think animations are all that necessary to transition between pictures for that matter... It's pointless eye-candy to make your pictures look better. Furthermore, people like you who don a developer hat make craptastic Flash sites that are full of bugs that end up crashing the browser... Apple doesn't want that liability to translate to their mobile platform getting the blame.
And to the rest of you, I recommend you read the daringfireball article linked by another user... It gives good TECHNICAL reasons why it's not so easy to get Flash to run on the ARM architecture... I don't expect people without a CS degree to fully understand but Flash has been bloated to an insane degree with very little attention paid to efficiency as they've added that bloat... It's so bad that they can't make those efficient without losing backwards compatibility... So basically, the ARM architecture coupled with the baked-in inefficiencies in how the code actually operates would not translate into a good experience on the iPhone or iPad.
I just want to add to the speculation that iPhone OS 4.0 will probably include support for things that the iPad seems to "need" in many people's eyes -- it may just be multitasking, but it could also be some kind of Flash support.
I am not disappointed by the device at all (and it seems people here aren't as frothy over the lack of certain things as they are over at Endgadget), but I did think the Flash error was odd.
By the way, this is my first post, but I love MacRumors and have been reading the site since 06 when I switched. I love the discussions here!
I am not disappointed by the device at all (and it seems people here aren't as frothy over the lack of certain things as they are over at Endgadget), but I did think the Flash error was odd.
By the way, this is my first post, but I love MacRumors and have been reading the site since 06 when I switched. I love the discussions here!
I don't use Flash, I browse with Flash disabled. I've never used DOS either nor is there a need to downgrade to an OS without Flash support. What are you thinking? A Flash restriction on this device is not going to limit my use of it. Flash is simply unimportant to me. Is this sinking in?
The primary reason they don't support Flash in this device is because it is very compute expensive and drains batteries.
My thoughts exactly. It seems like they would have at least picked sites that don't contain flash but I guess not..
Exactly. The primary reason that everyone has an issue with the iPad isn't because of the lack of a camera or a USB port (those are secondary). The primary offense is the closed nature of the device. It's attempting to replace a very open market type of device, a netbook. And with just about any netbook on the planet I can install any OS I want and any software I want. With the iPad, I can install any iPhone App that Apple permits me to, and that's about it. A competing web browser? Nope. Competing mail client? Nope. Those "duplicate iphone functionality", so Apple says 'take a hike'. I don't mind companies shipping devices with default settings and software that simplifies the experience for the consumer. But when you cross the line and prevent me from changing that once it's in my possession, now you're controlling me instead of enabling me.
I agree, you'll play with it on Christmas Day then forget about it for the rest of the year til you put it on eBay.
oh RIGHT! why didn't we think of that? Apple is SO EASY to talk to about this stuff, and are SO FORTHCOMING with information about everything they do.
surely, you could call them up and ask... and get a clear, relevant, cogent answer... from telephone tech #47.
i'm sure no one THOUGHT of just calling up and asking if they were coming out with a tablet! we should have listened to you! so smart!
um... not even close. and of the ones that do, the vast majority use it just for stupid advertising crap, so it doesn't make a difference.
"almost any site" is a vast, vast, vast overstatement. or maybe it's just the sites _I_ go to.
why is everyone demanding a camera for the iPad? to those who don't get it:
this device is aimed at 'families' who want to do light browsing on the couch/kitchen/garden, check emails, read some books and listen to music.. it's not for travelling, it's not designed to be used hours away from a power outlet.. this thing is going to lie on your couchtable, as a convenient way to look up emails, web content or read..
not more, not less... why should apple intentionally narrow the range of use by explicitly stating what they intended it for? people should find their own usecases for the ipad, but it's cleary aimed for homeuse, a "third-device", dedicated to the funktionality apple promoted.
PS: just as the iphone, it needs flash to "be the best browsing experience"... but as someone already pointed out; flashgames, videostreaming, porn
edit: and it's a """great""" gaming device for the kids. parents are able to control which games/content they can consume
Being able to iChat and use Skype on the go would be awesome. It also would make a lot of sense in the business world for video-conferencing. Lacking a camera makes no sense other than the fact that Apple is doing this intentionally to sell more of these in the next revision.
Well, I guess you can just have crippled devices at work, and if so... a maxipad is perfect for you, because it is crippled. I expected a better product than my iphone 3gs, and instead, they took away the camera and still NO FLASH SUPPORT. FLASH DOES SUCK, but it it part of the internet, FACT. SO, the device is not a true internet device. IT'S ANOTHER **INTENTIONALLY** CRIPPLED APPLE DEVICE.
DON'T BUY IT UNTIL THEY FIX IT. PLEASE.
I can believe it was an accident the first time, but he scrolled away and came back to it at least 2 more times. That tells me it wasn't an accident.