I understand. Possibly they will introduce exclusive hardware similar to Touch ID last year.
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iPad Sales Total 225 Million Units Since 2010 as Apple Claims 'Significant Innovation' Coming
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I understand. Possibly they will introduce exclusive hardware similar to Touch ID last year.
That is your opinion. You believe that Apple should focus on using more powerful (but battery intensive) parts to make performance faster in relatively minor ways, while sacrificing thinness for having a thicker battery.
But a lot of other people would immediately whine and howl that the iPad is thick and shriek about how evil Apple is and that they are switching to (insert android/windows tablet maker here).
See, your complaints should be labeled as opinions, not valid criticisms. Apple chose a different strategy and I personally believe they made the right choice.
Tim Cook sounds more and more like the person who has failed to meet an expectation or obligation.
He just keeps saying the same optimistic yada yada over and over in an increasingly feeble attempt to distract us from the fact that he has not met his obligation.
Tim keeps talking about the fantastic pipeline and the days keep going by, the weeks pass, the months, many months drift away - more yada yada is all we have.
Oh snap - Angela Ahrendts has been hired, Beats is being bought, $3.5 billion is flowing out for a magnificent corporate complex (think Roman Colosseum) to house even more people, a Board member retires / a new one is hired.
Tick Tock Tick Tock Tim.....
I took a look at your posts and it seems that all you ever do on this forum is bash Apple. So you joined an Apple discussion forums so that you could.....bash Apple....
Um...who does that?
iPad innovation is long over due. The last innovation that came from the iPad was it's initial existence, which granted was pretty huge. Since then it's been a slow natural progression of the product. I suppose the iPad 2 with cameras is somewhat innovative as it made the product quite a bit more useful particularly for Skype/facetime and such but no gains in actual functionality since the 2nd gen.
I just hope Apple's idea of innovating isn't merely adding another GB of ram to it, which should have happened two years ago.
I just hope Apple's idea of innovating isn't merely adding another GB of ram to it, which should have happened two years ago.
I actually like 16:9 on monitors. I value horizontal resolution more because i like to have a lot of windows open at once side by side. 16:10 is definitely best for laptops though.
Tim Cook has not been CEO for long enough for ANYONE to try and judge him as a good or bad CEO with any level of honesty.
Seriously, you seem to have some child-like view of how modern corporations are run. Apple might be gently guided at the helm by Tim Cook, but there are thousands of other employees who make Apple what it is. The same R&D team, same industrial design, etc. etc. etc.
It's not Tim Cook who comes up with innovation and new ideas and it wasn't (for the most part) Steve Jobs either. It's their fantastic engineers and designers who do the real innovation. So please, get off this creepy obsession you have with bashing Tim Cook.
People look at Tim Cook and expect him to magically give you some vague "innovation" every year. Innovation cannot be just demanded of someone, it just happens given the right circumstances and TIME. A lot of you guys just have NO idea of how technology is actually developed. People use these sweeping grandiose statements like "Apple is no longer innovative" and the people making those statements have ZERO experience with technological development.
You cannot SERIOUSLY expect a bombshell of innovation like the iPhone or iPod to appear on a yearly basis. It's just not feasible or realistic. Not only could Apple never do that, NO company could. And you can't honestly expect Tim Cook to publicly declare "we have no groundbreaking products in the pipeline" because that would kill the share price and sink the company.
Seriously, grow a brain.
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I believe you are the one with an inexperienced / childlike view of how corporations function. I have been a senior executive, served on the board of directors, and consulted to Fortune 50 organizations. Tim Cook MADE the commitments and he is the CEO - 100% responsible for the staff and their performance or lack thereof. He has been there for many years, knew Steve's product plan, touted the pipeline over and over. All talk so far.
Yeah, so you actually expect Tim Cook to publicly declare "we have no groundbreaking products in the pipeline"? Did you actually take his comments seriously...? Every CEO says that their company has amazing products in the works, it's basically a job requirement, even SJ routinely said it even at times when it wasn't true.
Obviously, the fact that you actually take offense at the fact that Tim Cook hasn't released a cancer-curing iPad yet tells me that the companies that have hired you to "consult" for them have gone bankrupt. Tim Cook hasn't even been CEO for 3 years, and you are not close enough inside Apple to actually have an informed opinion of how successful or bad his leadership is. Product development cycles take years and years, and you cannot honestly expect Tim Cook to come down from on high and bless us with his magical "innovation"
I have yet to see an actual valid criticism from you about Tim Cook. I have not seen him do anything that could actually be considered negative. If you actually did know anything about the technology field, you would know that the devices we are seeing today from Apple were planned when SJ was still around, so we still have to wait to start seeing devices that were created during Tim Cook's time in charge.
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Fair enough. These devices are pretty mature now, hard to see much in the way of hardware innovation. e-ink mode, that would be superb, definitely an innovation. I feel that iOS is whats needed to be innovated. Good its continues to catchup Android features, and Continuity, etc etc are quite innovative, in being new, and quite seamless.
What, so you can't enjoy any kind of ecosystem? I've got my Mac and my iPhone, and they work great together.
Patience. They gave time after SJ to not make immediate changes, that time is past, they have gone on an on and on about new stuff, so its time, as in announcement frenzy soon. THEN, its either WOW, GREAT, or its same ol same ol. Give it a few months
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The jealous? Those who prey Apple will fail, in order to default upgrade the platform such posters are on? I don't use Android, but for the life of me what a waste of my time it would be thrashing forums that are not about the products I use. Any psychologists here, please chime in
Hey! I have a Nexus 7 and a Nexus 5 so I don't know what you mean by "you guys" and I just happen to like my iPad Air ok?!
(No offense intended. I make up lists like this in my head about all the tech gadgets I use. I need a new hobby I know!)
Incorrect. Apple users have no issue in critiquing Apple if they are behind on features, however, whats the alternative? And don't say Android, we don't do lag, non updates, lax security, plastic hardware, malware, virus, etc. iOS is catching up features and adding genuine features, although admittedly they wont add 900 features like one phone/tablet makers does.
tdale - please keep in mind that patience has been in great supply. Tim, in the middle of 2013, touted the pipeline that will be opened in the fall of 2013 and THROUGHOUT all of 2014.
Too much patience can quickly = avoiding reality. Tim has been COO and interim CEO during Steve's illness and now CEO for how many years? It is not as if he was new to Apple when officially appointed CEO.
I agree that the next few months will tell the story. The Tim apologists just don't want to face the reality - he has not delivered on his own comitments.
Too much patience can quickly = avoiding reality. Tim has been COO and interim CEO during Steve's illness and now CEO for how many years? It is not as if he was new to Apple when officially appointed CEO.
I agree that the next few months will tell the story. The Tim apologists just don't want to face the reality - he has not delivered on his own comitments.
His "commitments"? The man just said Apple had exciting new products in the pipeline. He did not walk in to your house and personally promise you an ipad that would cure cancer.
Besides, I personally think that there were a lot of innovations in Apple's recent products. Especially the A7. As someone who deals with CPU architecture on a daily basis, I would consider the A7 to be a modern masterpiece. It's got SEVERAL innovations in it, and it beat out everything else on the market when it debuted last year. The fact that it's 64bit is enormous in and of itself. It even has a 192 entry reorder buffer, simply amazing on a mobile chipset, considering that only intel's Haswell processors had that number before the A7. It's truly a desktop class CPU.
You may not consider it to be innovative as it is obvious you don't care about such trifling details, but that would be your OPINION.
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"Cook said that iPad sales have totaled to 225 million units since 2010, as the current iPad Air and iPad mini have hit 98% and 100% customer satisfaction, respectively."
So if everyone is satisfied with their iPad's why would customers want to spend $500 plus on another one? There are now 5 full size iPad models and 2 mini models. People have been buying these like crazy and the market is saturated. It also doesn't help Apple's bottom line that they keep the tablets updated which is a huge bonus for customers but stinks for sales.
Apple has to think of something different with the iPad line. It's getting old no matter how thin you make it.
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Just by adding a built in stylus (or smart pen) could ignite sales. Also having 2 apps on screen would be nice. Make it only available on the upcoming iPads and people would buy. It would give me a reason to buy.
So if everyone is satisfied with their iPad's why would customers want to spend $500 plus on another one? There are now 5 full size iPad models and 2 mini models. People have been buying these like crazy and the market is saturated. It also doesn't help Apple's bottom line that they keep the tablets updated which is a huge bonus for customers but stinks for sales.
Apple has to think of something different with the iPad line. It's getting old no matter how thin you make it.
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Just by adding a built in stylus (or smart pen) could ignite sales. Also having 2 apps on screen would be nice. Make it only available on the upcoming iPads and people would buy. It would give me a reason to buy.
He's been CEO for less than three years, my take is allow time to not make any non SJ-like changes. That, and the board telling Apple they want innovation, this year is my final wait year. I hope the 4.7 and 5.5 iPhones are not considered amazing and innovative!
It's easy to say innovation, but notice that even here, different people have different ideas of what it takes to make a better iPad.
Some want a 16:9 iPad, I swear by 4:3. I think multi-screen is stupid, others actually want OSX in their tablet. Who is right?
I think that's the reason behind all this apparent disagreement. We all love Apple and want it to succeed, we just can't agree on what features the iPad ought to get.
Some want a 16:9 iPad, I swear by 4:3. I think multi-screen is stupid, others actually want OSX in their tablet. Who is right?
I think that's the reason behind all this apparent disagreement. We all love Apple and want it to succeed, we just can't agree on what features the iPad ought to get.
I think the iPad is the best in its class. I personally don't see any huge, ground breaking changes coming for it. I think the improvements will be incremental, the product is maturing and the US market is getting saturated. IMO, if the iPad had 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage at the entry level, the upgrade cycle would be lengthened. The iPad Air is still an outstanding performer and should be for a couple of more years. The original iPad was slow as molasses when it came out and the iPad 2 was a big improvement. The iPad 4 was what the iPad 3 should have been to begin with. The Air was a natural evolution from the 4.
Actually I think everyone will agree on improving safari (more RAM or whatever) so it does not refresh every time you open a new tab. That is not serious nor acceptable, if they want to go pro with the ipad that is a MUST, before screen split and all those things