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Nah, that's not innovative enough. Knowing Apple, they'll steal another brilliant idea from Android -- namely, watching two different films on one screen. Amazing and not at all impractical.

That's why I've bought the Galaxy Pro Note "S-Stylus Pro" S 7 running the latest Android beta that only pros and clever people use, (version 19.02, masculinely named 'Sweetie Sugarplum Snuggle').

And it's for reasons like this that I'll stay with Android and never buy an iPad, because they're for little children and tech idiots who don't know real technology when they see it. I want to customise my icons, create silly ringtones, see how much lag I can achieve on a quad-core processor and hold cheap plastic, dammit!

This is one of the best comments I've ever seen on this site!
 
Please let there be more then 1 gig of ramz.

Yeah. I'm sick of Apple being crazy stingy with RAM. The original iOS platform, sure...because it had as much RAM or more as anything else. No big deal. Second gen platform wasn't too ridiculous either. But since then I've thought basically every iOS platform needs 2x the RAM.

5s/Air/non-existent iPod 6 should have at least 2GB.

Anyway I really came here to hope that the "iPad Pro" is real and coming soon. I'd really like it to run x86 and real OS X...what I wanted the iPad to be from the beginning. But even just a larger iPad would be good, as it would support reading graphic novels and magazines much better...9.7" really isn't big enough.
 
His "commitments"? The man just said Apple had exciting new products in the pipeline. He did not walk in to your house and personally promise you an ipad that would cure cancer.

Besides, I personally think that there were a lot of innovations in Apple's recent products. Especially the A7. As someone who deals with CPU architecture on a daily basis, I would consider the A7 to be a modern masterpiece. It's got SEVERAL innovations in it, and it beat out everything else on the market when it debuted last year. The fact that it's 64bit is enormous in and of itself. It even has a 192 entry reorder buffer, simply amazing on a mobile chipset, considering that only intel's Haswell processors had that number before the A7. It's truly a desktop class CPU.

You may not consider it to be innovative as it is obvious you don't care about such trifling details, but that would be your OPINION.


You really need to go back and READ his quotes / commitments. They were made publicly and referenced new product categories and a time frame which has been missed. That alone is an example of something he has done wrong. You don't make such commitments and not deliver on them. The stock price has yet to recover where it was trading two years ago this September - another shortfall. John Browett hired & fired - another miss. Maps release - on and on.

Your hyperbolic rhetoric does not cover the facts.
 
iPad Sales Total 225 Million Units Since 2010 as Apple Claims 'Significant In...

"Cook said that iPad sales have totaled to 225 million units since 2010, as the current iPad Air and iPad mini have hit 98% and 100% customer satisfaction, respectively."





So if everyone is satisfied with their iPad's why would customers want to spend $500 plus on another one? There are now 5 full size iPad models and 2 mini models. People have been buying these like crazy and the market is saturated. It also doesn't help Apple's bottom line that they keep the tablets updated which is a huge bonus for customers but stinks for sales.

Apple has to think of something different with the iPad line. It's getting old no matter how thin you make it.

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Just by adding a built in stylus (or smart pen) could ignite sales. Also having 2 apps on screen would be nice. Make it only available on the upcoming iPads and people would buy. It would give me a reason to buy.


Yeah but the stylus use would likely conflict with finger touch because finger experience is better with smooth surfaces while stylus experience is better with some friction so it feels more like paper.

Quite frankly I don't really have a need for an entertainment device like the iPad and finger touch UI is not suitable for productivity.
People have to be able to type or write in most cases in order to be "productive."
Most content consumption can be done on the iPhone or a laptop unless you are on an airplane or in bed, where the iPad is superior to both.

Another thing is a good application like OneNote (on windows 8.1 on a device like surface 3 pro).
 
Basically, Apple was waiting until iPad sales stalled to give it a real upgrade.
 
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Please don't take away needed and desired functionality to make it innovatively thinner. Thinner by itself does not equal innovation.

Incorrect. There is quite a bit of innovation necessary to enable miniturization of components. The mistake that you and many people here make is that you equate "innovation" to "we get new features that we like".

The innovation needed to miniaturize components in iPad will benefit Apple's other product lines too.
 
Nah, that's not innovative enough. Knowing Apple, they'll steal another brilliant idea from Android -- namely, watching two different films on one screen. Amazing and not at all impractical.

That's why I've bought the Galaxy Pro Note "S-Stylus Pro" S 7 running the latest Android beta that only pros and clever people use, (version 19.02, masculinely named 'Sweetie Sugarplum Snuggle').

And it's for reasons like this that I'll stay with Android and never buy an iPad, because they're for little children and tech idiots who don't know real technology when they see it. I want to customise my icons, create silly ringtones, see how much lag I can achieve on a quad-core processor and hold cheap plastic, dammit!
One of the best sarcastic posts of Android that I've read.

I have lost interest in iPad. It's just a toy.
Don't forget to call us iSheep and that Apple is doomed. :rolleyes:
 
Incorrect. Apple users have no issue in critiquing Apple if they are behind on features, however, what's the alternative? And don't say Android, we don't do lag, non updates, lax security, plastic hardware, malware, virus, etc.
This sounds like a bit of FUD to me.

If you look at my signature you'll see I'm a committed :apple: supporter. However, the other day I went to an AT&T store to order an iPad Air® and as I waited, I played around with some Android phones like the Galaxy S5 and the HTC M8 and the LG G3. They blew my poor iPhone 5 into the weeds speed-wise. Apple better hope their iPhone 6 CPU is a match for these things.

One of them - I forget which - also had a really spiffy UI that included a mode where you were flipping through pages like the song cards in an old jukebox (sorry, bad description - and no, I don't mean the Flipboard app). I was really impressed by the speed of these devices - and this one particular UI made iOS 7 look pretty old in comparison, I have to say. [When I pick up the iPad tomorrow I'll come back and edit this post with what it is.]

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But since this is an iPad thread, in general I'll say that the real problem today is that "significant innovation" only comes along once in a blue moon (like the original iPhone redefining what a mobile phone was). Once we get used to a new device it's evolution, not revolution.

Tim Cook has his work cut out for him. Now that we have our thin laptops/smartphones/tablets et al., what new worlds are there to uncover? To me it sure isn't smartwatches ...
 
I cannot help but notice that the next gen Macbook Air is rumoured to sport a retina 12" screen - same as the rumored iPad Pro. Why would u abandon the popular 13" screen size for the next gen MacBook Air unless you go for a laptop tablet hybrid?
The iPad Air is already as slim as the display of older MacBook's just a few years ago ... at 12" u probably get space to go even slimmer for the iPad Pro ... dock it into a keyboard base station that contains additional IO ports and batteries that maybe even has OSX part installed and voila u can do work. The whole 'handoff feature' also makes lots of sense in in this set up. I seem to recall older rumours suggesting Apple was testing OSX on its mobile processors. Currently the Macbook Air and iPad give users an awkward choice ... work or play ... or try working on a iPad using a keyboard (works for writing, not so much for multitasking etc ...). While laptops are great for mobile productivity this business is going stale for Apple ... since tablets are the form factor of the future, I think this time Apple could try to figure how to turn these into productivity devices.

Apple reinvented existing product categories before (tablets, phones, music players) and came up with better solutions than their competitors (who had the right idea, but could not make it work). On that note I find it funny how quickly Apple redesigned the iPod Nano after people used it as a watch ...

What about a 12" iPad, that comes with it's own detachable keyboard?

That would give it a 12" like feel with the keyboard in situ and be a large iPad without?

[Edit] - Kind of like Clamcase have already done :eek:

http://clamcase.com/ipad-air-keyboard-case.html
 
The jealous? Those who prey Apple will fail, in order to default upgrade the platform such posters are on? I don't use Android, but for the life of me what a waste of my time it would be thrashing forums that are not about the products I use. Any psychologists here, please chime in

I'm not a psychologist, but I'm going to call little willy syndrome. :D
 
Brian S Hall who writes for techpinions.com is basically predicting the end of the iPad. Says an iPhone phablet will kill it. Are we really supposed to believe Apple doesn't see they need to shake things up in the iPad space? I think this deal with IBM is the first indication of this. I think it's too early to dig iPads grave. Let's see what we get from Apple this fall. Apple announced a lot of things at WWDC that people weren't expecting (and that didn't leak). What's to say we won't see something similar this fall when new devices are announced?
 
I wonder what apple have up their sleeves.

I can't help but think the new iPads will feature A8 processors and a Touch ID and that's it. Hopefully there's more to them than that though.
 
I personally feel the iPad is already "there" from a hardware perspective. What is lacking is the software side, most notably apps to enable new use cases. But for this to happen, the specs need to support it first. Something like 4 gb of ram, quad-core arm processor and OSX ram compression would allow for some really powerful apps.
 
I can't help but think the new iPads will feature A8 processors and a Touch ID and that's it. Hopefully there's more to them than that though.

So what are you hoping for then? There are so many people that keep asking for "more" and "new", but who are not able to come up with any real compelling arguments what is exactly needed.
 
let your finger do the walking....

ya, the finger-print reader had a lot to do with it too...
 
SD card slot please.

Everyone knows that that will not happen. Apple is betting heavily on iCloud integration and generates significant profit from their RAM tiering system.

Other manufacturers will follow as waterproofing will become more common and they will start to embrace cloud storage solutions.

SD slots on mobile phones are on their way out and in my personal opinion it is a good thing.
 
Nah, that's not innovative enough. Knowing Apple, they'll steal another brilliant idea from Android -- namely, watching two different films on one screen. Amazing and not at all impractical.

That's why I've bought the Galaxy Pro Note "S-Stylus Pro" S 7 running the latest Android beta that only pros and clever people use, (version 19.02, masculinely named 'Sweetie Sugarplum Snuggle').

And it's for reasons like this that I'll stay with Android and never buy an iPad, because they're for little children and tech idiots who don't know real technology when they see it. I want to customise my icons, create silly ringtones, see how much lag I can achieve on a quad-core processor and hold cheap plastic, dammit!

lol

Android always appeals to wannabe hackers and programmers.
Also let's not forget that if it wasn't for Apple Android would be a mediocre Blackberry clone.
 
I am so tired of hearing Cook claim the pipeline is incredible and/or innovative. He's in essence been saying "stay tuned" for so long now that I'm beginning to think the emperor has no clothes.

Either admit that "innovation" now amounts to generational enhancements to existing products and stop with the hype or actually start delivering new products. I can't think of a single new Apple device the company has launched since Jobs died.

Stay tired. Or realign your understanding.

Cook is refers to products which are new and innovative, Of which IMO we've seen a few since Jobs passed. Off the top of my head...

- Mac Pro
- TouchID implementation on the 5s
- M7 in the 5s (might seem minor, but as a runner it is superb having this little chip, saves so much battery on longer runs)
- Alignment of of iWork across mobile, desktop and web
- Continuinty + Handoff between OS X and iOS
- Retina MacBook Pro
- Final Cut Pro X

The emperor certainly has clothes. They are nice. They are innovative.

But... what you are after is new 'product lines'. And Cook has alluded to these too, but much more infrequently. The only one we've had so far is a the iPad mini, more of a fork of the the larger iPad, but a new product nonetheless.

I think you and many others are after the next big hit such as an iWatch, and throw the the baby out with the bath water suggesting Apple isn't releasing new or innovative products and services. Even the 5s was both new and innovative.

Not everything has to be iPod, iPhone or iPad level of new and innovative.


Actually the only thing I do nowadays with my ipad is reading books and newspapers. But you have to admit that it's a waste to use it for that, I mean, it's a 500+ USD device...

If that's all anyone intends to do with an iPad then:

1. Do not buy the latest model iPad - pick up up a cheap older one (I still use a 3rd Gen and it works fine for browsing the web, reading, music, notes, iTunes U, reminders calendar etc. all light tasks).
2. Buy a cheap Android tablet. Preferably not a 16:9 as I don't think that aspect ratio is as good for reading.

On the other hand, many other people use their iPads for much much more. It's like me saying there's no need to buy a Ferrari all I do is drive to the grocery store in it, I mean it's a $300,000+ vehicle...
 
Either admit that "innovation" now amounts to generational enhancements to existing products and stop with the hype or actually start delivering new products. I can't think of a single new Apple device the company has launched since Jobs died.

You seem to lack understanding of what innovation is. It is NOT solely the introduction of new product categories or new functions or features. It is also the change of production procedures to enable better fits on the product chassis, thinner products with the same functionality, longer battery life, better cameras etc.

People seem to expect a new product category from Apple every two years, but no-one seems to be able to say what that product category should be. Last but not least Innovation is not simply a button that you can push or a department that you can throw money at. It is highly complicated and requires an alignment of the entire organisation.

I can't think of a single new Apple device the company has launched since Jobs died.

Please tell us what device you would like to see. What would be a truly new product category that Apple does not currently produce yet? I'm sure you can't come up with an example that would be considered "innovative". This is hard stuff, even for a corporation with the massive resources that Apple has.


edit; what a coincidence. What the above guy is saying..
 
Dear Saturn1217,

You guys do really love on "WAITING" on your features. Our tablets has had those features you're looking for quite sometime but a lot of people won't touch it because it doesn't have the sacred Apple logo. Platform agnostic is the best way to enjoy the best of technology.

Sincerely,
Samsung and Microsoft

Dear Samsung and Microsoft,

That's all well and good, problem is your tablets suck.

Sincerely,
Trapezoid
 
I personally feel the iPad is already "there" from a hardware perspective. What is lacking is the software side, most notably apps to enable new use cases. But for this to happen, the specs need to support it first. Something like 4 gb of ram, quad-core arm processor and OSX ram compression would allow for some really powerful apps.

*scratches head* huh? You contradicted yourself.

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Dear Saturn1217,

You guys do really love on "WAITING" on your features. Our tablets has had those features you're looking for quite sometime but a lot of people won't touch it because it doesn't have the sacred Apple logo. Platform agnostic is the best way to enjoy the best of technology.

Sincerely,
Samsung and Microsoft
Who's fault is that? Why is it Apple's fault nobody wants to use Samsung/MSFT implementations of new innovations? These guys are basically reduced to going on Apple rumor sites to get ideas and then beat Apple to releasing half baked versions of what the Apple rumor sites suggested Apple was already rumored to be working on. :/


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lol

Android always appeals to wannabe hackers and programmers.
Also let's not forget that if it wasn't for Apple Android would be a mediocre Blackberry clone.

It appeals to the hate Apple crowd. It is not even about hackers and programmers.
 
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And when he noted that iPad sales are Drop, Tim Cook confident casts doubt adding that significant innovations can still be made to the iPad to boost sales and, according to him, the market tablets is only in its infancy. would Apple reserve beautiful surprises in the pipeline except the iphone 6?




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