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iPad Simulator in New SDK Hints at Possible But Unlikely Camera Support

who the hell wants a camera accessory!
another peice of **** to carry around, no I do not think so.

This was a big mistake for whatever reason on Apple's part.

They will include one on the second generation ipad, in addition to a 128 gb capacity, and I would think by christmas.

I just can not believe how stupid and obstinate they can be.
 
iPad Camera

If you look at the iPad accessories page, you'll notice it has a "camera attachment" that allows either SD cards or direct USB input of any digital camera. Apple probably just omitted the camera due to high costs both monetary and space wise and just planned to either produce it as an attachment around launch or leave it up to third parties to produce a far better camera than they could ever build in, possibly even including a flash!

In all actuality, Apple was pretty smart for leaving off a camera, but they should move quickly to arrange an attachment camera and iPhone OS 4.0 with multitasking.
 
mlblacy said:
Angry. Much?
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He didn't seem that angry. But it is a tad annoying for us over in the EU that ye olde dinosaur AT&T gets to cripple technology because they're anachronistic cheapskates. Here in Sweden, 4G was recently launched, we've had 3G since 2004, it was a bit of an eye roller when Apple launched a phone without 3G in 2007(!) and then came back in 2008 so ecstatic over the latest technological advancement that they actually NAMED the phone "3G", which is a bit like naming a car "The Ford Taurus GASOLINE". Wow, it runs on gas? Revolutionary!
 
sishaw said:
At the very beginning of the keynote, Steve Jobs said the device is "magic." Not "cool," or "slick," or "exceptionally well designed." Nope. "Magic." Right at the beginning. So, he did, in fact, raise expectations.

I'm still waiting for the rabbit.
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I think when people refer to the iPad as being overhyped, they are referring to PRIOR to the release!! There was TONS of hype....none from Apple.
 
Peripheral Camera will be possible

Didn't apple mention something about support for a camera peripheral if one was developed for the product?
That's probably it. It doesn't sound like a mistake in the firmware.
 
We have to wait until camera manufacturers start building decent webcams. apple doesn't want to put bad stuff in. Like they didn't do with 3G when they launched 1st generation iphone. But things changed so rapidly so that put 3g next year.

Thanks apple you care about us
 
Anuba said:
He didn't seem that angry. But it is a tad annoying for us over in the EU that ye olde dinosaur AT&T gets to cripple technology because they're anachronistic cheapskates. Here in Sweden, 4G was recently launched, we've had 3G since 2004, it was a bit of an eye roller when Apple launched a phone without 3G in 2007(!) and then came back in 2008 so ecstatic over the latest technological advancement that they actually NAMED the phone "3G", which is a bit like naming a car "The Ford Taurus GASOLINE". Wow, it runs on gas? Revolutionary!
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Wow. Tall blonde ladies and the latest in technology. Oh, and universal health care, right? Man, I wish I lived in Sweden.
 
No camera no sale!!!

there is not an good valid excuse to eliminate front facing camera from iPad (at least in the wifi only model, if the 3G and ATT crappy service is a concern)
 
don't need a camera on it, so fine with me if that kept the price down.

I imagine there will be accessories and then 2nd or 3rd generation will include a built in video camera.
 
kironin said:
don't need a camera on it, so fine with me if that kept the price down.

I imagine there will be accessories and then 2nd or 3rd generation will include a built in video camera.
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that is really apple's idea remove one feature later so apple customers will buy items in one year gap ...

honestly how much is the camera cost? $5 to $10 bucks?
 
bigbadnewill said:
Yeah, but if they release all these fancy accessories do they not run the risk of losing their 'advantage' over other companies by having it all in one fancy package?

apple-vs-dell-pc.jpg


This image springs to mind, but with the reverse now being true. Current netbooks are one nice little package, the iPad is gonna be messy.
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Let's compare apples to apples so to speak. Well it's kinda not fair the HP has a full multi-touch screen.

HP_TouchSmart_PC_left_profile,_white_backdrop_540x405.jpg
 
3goldens said:
who the hell wants a camera accessory!
another peice of **** to carry around, no I do not think so.

This was a big mistake for whatever reason on Apple's part.

They will include one on the second generation ipad, in addition to a 128 gb capacity, and I would think by christmas.

I just can not believe how stupid and obstinate they can be.
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+++++++1
 
DAMNiatx said:
we can choose any usb camera . :D
thats goood
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I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but the iPad Accessories include a USB camera connector (alongside the SD card reader). Presumably it's for reading from your camera as a mass storage device, but it's not unheard of for tethering support to be there for a camera.

Hopefully, the "take a picture" option is only present when a camera is actually connected.

This allows Apple to have the same interface on iPad 1.0 and iPad 2.0 if iPad 2 contains a camera.
 
There are Bluetooth WebCams, will the iPads Bluetooth implementation allow pairing with a webcam?

I don't see integrating a camera into the iPad as very practical. Whichever side you put it on someone will want it on the other side. Where ever you place it on the device someone will cover it with a thumb or finger.

To me the iPad seems to have been designed to consume media not produce it. Seems an external camera connected via bluetooth or the dock connector makes more sense.

Crying about the lack of a camera to me is as foolish as the guy at another blog who bitched about the Bezel. Apple's products are a balance between esthetics and features, Form and Function. An edge to edge screen would look pretty in pictures of the product but how do you hold the device without having your thumb on the screen obscuring the picture and interfering with the multi-touch commands. A bezel is necessary for a device with a width greater than the average persons grip-width.

If you can not implement a feature in a way that satisfies it's intended purpose without causing more design problems you cut it. A camera on this device is a no win for Apple so it was crossed off the feature list at some point and time.
 
Remember the iPhone frenzy about the front cam where everyone was analyzing every pic from keynotes, etc? Most of which turned out to be a finger smudge. Many hoped it would be included. I won't go there again. :)

I'd be ok with an attached cam IF it was designed to fit directly into the port & slide onto the iPad much like a rubber U-shape deal. Flexy mount with connector. Everything all right there and easily pocketable. Given the small size of iSights - I see no reason why this couldn't be designed.

I'm not seeing any BT options that look good to me including the BT-1.

If someone is working on what I have in my head, wow. I'd be very fine with that.
 
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Everybody bashing this device they haven't seen reminds me of this thread:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/
 
lurch09 said:
If you look at the iPad accessories page, you'll notice it has a "camera attachment" that allows either SD cards or direct USB input of any digital camera. Apple probably just omitted the camera due to high costs both monetary and space wise and just planned to either produce it as an attachment around launch or leave it up to third parties to produce a far better camera than they could ever build in, possibly even including a flash!

In all actuality, Apple was pretty smart for leaving off a camera, but they should move quickly to arrange an attachment camera and iPhone OS 4.0 with multitasking.
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The cost of adding a camera to digital electronics these days is measured in cents. There is no monetary argument ... to me the decision is baffling.
 
kevgav said:
Crying about the lack of a camera to me is as foolish as the guy at another blog who bitched about the Bezel. Apple's products are a balance between esthetics and feature, Form and Function. An edge to edge screen would look pretty in pictures of the product but how do you hold the device without having your thumb on the screen obscuring the picture and interfering with the multi-touch commands. A bezel is necessary for a device with a width great than the average persons grip-width.

If you can not implement a feature in a way that satisfies it's intended purpose without causing more design problems you cut it. A camera on this device is a no win for Apple so it was crossed off the feature list at some point and time.
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Yes a Bezel is necessary but I contend it didn't have to be THAT wide. I have a feeling the bezel was based on the size of Phil's thumbs :)

I wish I knew the reason for no iSight. Could've been just for Wifi. Anything. This dashes my hopes for the next-gen iPhone to have one also which has been my dream.
 
holmesf said:
The cost of adding a camera to digital electronics these days is measured in cents. There is no monetary argument ... to me the decision is baffling.
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"Cents?" Really?

Though I agree, cost obviously wasn't the reason behind the decision.
 
geofly said:
I think this thing will end up being used immensely in schools and institutions such as hospitals where a camera would be an unnecessary distraction or liability.
I completely agree with v1 being a bare bones model which they can keep selling en masse to institutions while subsequent versions will continue to add features as needed.
I expect the resale value of v1 will be quite good because of this "institutional demand" and thus I won't hesitate to buy this as soon as it comes out and then simply "trade-up" in a year when they come out with the more mature v2 with camera and kickstand.
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Right. Just like they make laptops and phones without cameras because they would be "an unnecessary distraction or liability". :rolleyes:

Justify it anyway you like, but the camera is clearly being saved for a future revision, just like video was saved for a future revsion of the iPhone, even though the very first iPhones are capable of shooting video (see all the video camera apps for 2G and 3G iPhones that have just been allowed by Apple in the app store now that they have played that card).
 
Haven't read the whole thread so somebody may have already said this, but given that the iPhone OS that the iPad runs IS camera-aware (because it runs on the iPhone too), have you considered that it may simply be detecting the iSight on whichever machine you are running the simulator?
 
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