So let me get this straight the whole time they pushed the iPad is your next computer BS they knew the whole time the chips were not capable of the features we all wanted. Remember when Steve said he didn't want the iPad to be like a computer.
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iPadOS 16's Best Feature is Limited to M1 iPads
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Pretty neat but a glorified app switcher isn't enough to cajole me into upgrading my 2018 Pro. Try OLED.
The SSDs in the 2018 and 2020 iPad Pro's have extremely slow write speeds relative to their read speeds. The M1 iPad Pros are 5-10x faster for write speeds. Virtual memory paging is likely required to make these features work, and the slow write speeds on the 2018-2020 Pros would have significantly hampered system performance.
I have the new mini and a 2020 pro and tbh this doesn't bother me at all, a two year old device not getting the latest feature and the mini isn't something I got for multitasking. it was obvious when they put M1 inside some iPads they would get better features.
The 2018 and 2020 iPad Pros have write speeds that are much slower (310MB/s) that the write speed on the 2021 iPad Pro (2400MB/s), making virtual memory unusable.
IpadOS is useless for anything productive anyway. I couldn’t care less if it’d work on my 12.9” 2018 or not.
Glad you don't want to multitask on your mini. I refuse to use anything bigger than a mini in tablet form and I'm tired of it being repeatedly shafted like it's an afterthought device.
apple's been doing this for ages. nothing new. i don't know why we imagine a12z can do this though. The m1 is 50%+ faster according to geekbench and across the board have much more ram.
I’m very glad that I never had any reason to upgrade from my 2017 12.9” iPad Pro. I think 2018 and 2020 iPad Pro users are getting a raw deal WRT Stage Manager, but it seems like Apple is drawing a bit of a line in the sand…not sure this is a hill Apple should die on, but, oh well, we’ll see.
you think it would work because....you know more about software engineering than them?
i don't buy that.
if they really wanted to sell more devices, they'll just cut off more devices from iPadOS 16. The fact that they've kept iPad 5th gen around for iPadOS 16 says a lot.
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Prepare yourself for a shock. Around 20 years ago we were running, like, 10 apps at the same time with 128MB of Ram!
Apple yesterday unveiled iPadOS 16, the newest version of the iOS operating system designed for the tablet form factor. iPadOS 16 has many of the features that are coming to iOS 16, but it also has some iPad specific updates.
One of those new features is an updated multitasking system called Stage Manager, but many iPad users are never going to get to test out Stage Manager because it only works on M1 iPads. There are just three M1 iPads at the current time, the M1 11-inch iPad Pro, the M1 12.9-inch iPad Pro, and the M1 iPad Air.
All other iPads that are using A-series chips simply will not get access to the new Stage Manager feature, and it is by far the biggest iPadOS 16 change.
Also available on Mac, Stage Manager is a whole new multitasking experience. You can overlap windows for the first time on the iPad, and resize those windows as well. The window of the main app that you're working on is front and center, with your other recently used apps off to the left for quick access when you need to swap.
You can have overlapping windows of different sizes, similar to on a Mac, and you can group apps together using drag and drop gestures. Stage Manager supports groups of up to four windows, plus another four if you have an external display attached to your iPad. Stage Manager also enables full external display support on the iPad.
The 64GB fifth-generation M1 iPad Air is the most affordable iPad that supports the Stage Manager feature, and it is priced at $599. The M1 iPad Pro models are priced starting at $799 for the 11-inch version and $1099 for the 12.9-inch version, but we do not recommend an iPad Pro purchase at this time as a refresh is in the works.
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Has anyone tried an old Apple Thunderbolt Display? A1407 MC914LL is what I have. Will iPadOS 16 connect to this monitor using the USB/C/Thunderbolt adapter? This is how I connect my M1 Mac and am hoping this works so I can "dock" my new iPad when I get the M2 version.
"Desktop-like windowing" has been around for decades now. Apple has the power to let all currently supported iPads use windowing (albeit fewer windows the less RAM you have), they just choose not to do so.
Virtual memory has been around for sixty years, and 310 MB/s is plenty for virtual memory. Again, Apple just arbitrarily chooses not to let other iPads use it.
I thought the same thing… the iPad 2020/2018 are so insanely overpowered for iPadOS the idea that it couldn’t run a few apps simultaneously is bananas… maybe Apple will open this up later in the cycle… not saying it’s likely but this is ridiculous
If you ever wanted to know why Apple hasn't implemented USB-C on their iPhones, there you go
Damn, I love my iPad Pro 2020 but this is a big deal. Looks like I can only get ~$400 for the thing which is shame because it’s worth way more than that to me. And M1 Pro’s are going for ~$700? Well, the feature isn’t worth $300. Man, what a pickle.
Maybe I just put the $400 towards M2 MBA. My only other laptop is a 2017 MacBook… wait, I can get $400 for that lap heater?? That’s nuts. Alright, I think I’m selling both for the MBA and will pick up an M1 iPP once the M2 version comes out.
Maybe I just put the $400 towards M2 MBA. My only other laptop is a 2017 MacBook… wait, I can get $400 for that lap heater?? That’s nuts. Alright, I think I’m selling both for the MBA and will pick up an M1 iPP once the M2 version comes out.
Macrumors peeps: We want iPadOS to take advantage of the M1’s ridiculous power.
Apple updates iPadOS to use the power of the M1 chip.
Macrumors peeps: Why can’t my non M1 iPad get these features.
Lol 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Apple updates iPadOS to use the power of the M1 chip.
Macrumors peeps: Why can’t my non M1 iPad get these features.
Lol 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
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Yeah, I'm sure Apple would love it if everyone would upgrade their iPads this fall
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So many complaining about iPad productivity...
If you can't use an iPad because your workflow doesn't allow it, don't get one.
But to say that it isn't "productive" is plain-old FALSE.
You can get most things done on iPad, but it is done DIFFERENTLY. I had to LEARN to use an iPad.
I think that's the root of most complaints: people wanted the iPad to be a Microsoft Surface, something that Apple did not (could not?) want to do.
The iPad has always been a different device than a Mac. And there are things the iPad can do that the Mac CANNOT.
The ad Apple ran about "what's a computer" or whatever perfectly exemplifies how the iPad is all the computer I will ever need.
So all these new iPad features are a cherry-on-top scenario for me, because the once it got M1 the iPad was already everything I needed it to be: a touch-first and hand-held first Tablet, the way Steve Jobs intended.
Welcome, to be sure, but I was already an iPad multitouch, multitasking, Pencil-twirling Jedi... I mean... SITH Master.
So many complaining about iPad productivity...
If you can't use an iPad because your workflow doesn't allow it, don't get one.
But to say that it isn't "productive" is plain-old FALSE.
You can get most things done on iPad, but it is done DIFFERENTLY. I had to LEARN to use an iPad.
I think that's the root of most complaints: people wanted the iPad to be a Microsoft Surface, something that Apple did not (could not?) want to do.
The iPad has always been a different device than a Mac. And there are things the iPad can do that the Mac CANNOT.
The ad Apple ran about "what's a computer" or whatever perfectly exemplifies how the iPad is all the computer I will ever need.
So all these new iPad features are a cherry-on-top scenario for me, because the once it got M1 the iPad was already everything I needed it to be: a touch-first and hand-held first Tablet, the way Steve Jobs intended.
Welcome, to be sure, but I was already an iPad multitouch, multitasking, Pencil-twirling Jedi... I mean... SITH Master.