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I agree with Apple's possible thinking behind MMS - MMS is a very limited technology. Very slow, standalone, proprietary, small/poor quality pictures.

They're trying to encourage a more content-rich and integrated experience by people using email.

Spot on.

The problem is, they're 5 years too early. Unfortunately, most people still don't have email on their phones, and MMS is here whether they like it or not.

I beg to differ. If you have ever worked in the telecommunications/carriers services sector, you know that the only single killer app (ever) besides making calls is SMS. MMS is/was/will never be as popular as SMS due to several reasons which I will refrain from mentioning here. Apple is doing the right thing here and is pushing the industry in the right direction even if it means a couple of malcontent customers.
 
Excuse me???

Two totally unrelated items. "Pretty clear indication"? Nope. Meaningless.

Actually NOT meaningless at all. It wasn't that long ago that there were rumors about Apple only allowing Web Apps with a link on the Home Screen, and that their SDK would just be web based like Google's. So if you ask me, I think this is good evidence that they might still be basing the SDK off of Web Apps that you can link on the home page so they feel like a real installed app instead of the REAL installed apps that people really want. Home screen links, movable icons, multiple home screens all says preparation for the SDK and that it might still be web based apps.

THANK YOU :rolleyes:
 
Funny, considering "Mail Link to This Page" is the exact wording Apple uses for the same option in Safari ;)

Hahahaha... GOOD CALL.
You totally got me there...

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Well now it is getting interesting lol :) So lets hear what all the FAKE cryers have to say now??? Although, I will say from the standard configuration when he started, the WIFI icon was on the wrong side. Did you move it before? And how do you make them stop shaking when you are done arranging?

I wanna know more..... What else is in this update???? Spill your guts, dive into it more :)
 
Yeah - as far as you can tell is right. We broke the iPod nano days before it was announced. Now we are doing the same with 1.1.3. A rumor wouldn't have 10 pictures associated with it.

Again, anyone have any questions - email them to me at andru <at> gearlive.com. I will answer them in a new post. I will also be working ona video either tonight or tomorrow.

The last iPhone 1.1.3 rumor on here was obviously false, so it is no surprise this one -- from a site that has absolutely no record on iPhone or Mac rumors as far as I can tell -- is scrutinized.

50/50. iPhone screenshots are easily faked.

Alex
 
Has Apple ever included the word "Dismiss" to cancel an action, as is pictured on the Edit screen? I too am skeptical of this.

Perhaps the reason Apple hasn't released tons of new apps for the iPhone is simply to break it in. The interface itself is revolutionary enough, and perhaps they wanted to gauge peoples' reactions and also test the stability of the system. The more apps you include on launch, the more complicated it is to debug the system if things start to go wrong. By having just a few apps that they know work well, they can gradually add more functionality safely, step by step. As has been mentioned, one of the attractions of the iPhone is its simplicity. The more things it can do, the more confusing it can become.



I guess your phone has never gone to under 20% of battery life :)
 
Well now it is getting interesting lol :) So lets hear what all the FAKE cryers have to say now??? Although, I will say from the standard configuration when he started, the WIFI icon was on the wrong side. Did you move it before? And how do you make them stop shaking when you are done arranging? I wanna know more..... What else is in this update???? Spill your guts, dive into it more :)
Aw, man... I was going to goad someone into betting me $50 it was fake. :mad: :rolleyes: I really liked that blow up with all the JPEG artifacting that showed that there was a qualitative difference between the icon area and the background blackness. That was truly impressive fake-finding right there.
A rumor wouldn't have 10 pictures associated with it.
Basically.
The operator logo says "Nate". So the phone must be hacked... as there is no hack for 1.1.3 yet then this could be a 1.1.2 or lower phone with a customised springboard... or not... maybe it's real.
There is one hacking trick that's almost consistently worked after new updates. I don't hack my phone, but even I know that.

~ CB
 
I'm just going to chime in with three words - MMS!
Apple should really have the basics down before the SDK is out, so some 3rd party doesn't have to make a weird version of it.

Multi-Recipient SMS
MMS
Voice Dial
iChat

wow, it sure is hard to dial by pressing a keypad...
 
my only question ...........

My Only Question is ..........


Where are multiple people getting the 1.1.3 update FROM??


that is the only oddity that has me at this point.....
 
I'm just going to chime in with three words - MMS!
Apple should really have the basics down before the SDK is out, so some 3rd party doesn't have to make a weird version of it.

Multi-Recipient SMS
MMS
Voice Dial
iChat
Looking like multiple recipient SMS is on its way. Like others have said, I think MMS is the "past". If people want it, I think a "weird" version should be created for it. If Apple wastes 10 minutes on MMS that could be spent on Cut & Paste or Web Download/File Manager Q & A, I'll be angry. WAY more important stuff. MMS is something most people will gradually stop using now that improved bandwidth is here. Voice Dialing is also useless. On my last phone (that had it) I used it one or twice, and then stopped caring about it when the novelty wore off. iPhone supports voice dialing though. You just need to subscribe to the service through AT&T. I don't need it on my phone. iChat... I think it may be best if Apple saves iChat for iPhone 2, and gives a downgraded (non-video) version to iPhone 1 at that time. Otherwise, others will do a multi-chat protocol version of an IM client much better than Apple will want to do... just like on the desktop.

So, I'd vote for 1 out of 4 of those.

~ CB
 
I beg to differ. If you have ever worked in the telecommunications/carriers services sector, you know that the only single killer app (ever) besides making calls is SMS. MMS is/was/will never be as popular as SMS due to several reasons which I will refrain from mentioning here. Apple is doing the right thing here and is pushing the industry in the right direction even if it means a couple of malcontent customers.

I agree, SMS is always going to be a lot more popular because MMS only has very limited uses. But, here in the UK at least, we do use MMS quite a lot. Receiving MMS isn't really a problem - visiting a website isn't a massive hardship. But, from the other way round, it's impossible to SEND an MMS message from the iPhone to another device. That means that for the many contacts I have who don't have email on their mobiles (most, except the techy ones, or work ones), I've no option of sending them any sort of picture. For me personally, it's not a problem, but I can see why it is for some.

I agree with Apple's choice to push the industry in the right direction - as you say - but it could have been a slightly smoother ride :)
 
Actually NOT meaningless at all. It wasn't that long ago that there were rumors about Apple only allowing Web Apps with a link on the Home Screen, and that their SDK would just be web based like Google's. So if you ask me, I think this is good evidence that they might still be basing the SDK off of Web Apps that you can link on the home page so they feel like a real installed app instead of the REAL installed apps that people really want. Home screen links, movable icons, multiple home screens all says preparation for the SDK and that it might still be web based apps.

THANK YOU :rolleyes:

The web apps on the desktop are bookmarks, nothing more. The SDK will allow normal apps.
 
I agree, SMS is always going to be a lot more popular because MMS only has very limited uses. But, here in the UK at least, we do use MMS quite a lot. Receiving MMS isn't really a problem - visiting a website isn't a massive hardship. But, from the other way round, it's impossible to SEND an MMS message from the iPhone to another device. That means that for the many contacts I have who don't have email on their mobiles (most, except the techy ones, or work ones), I've no option of sending them any sort of picture. For me personally, it's not a problem, but I can see why it is for some.

I agree with Apple's choice to push the industry in the right direction - as you say - but it could have been a slightly smoother ride :)

I'm one of the whiners for MMS, but I can agree with you. I do need it, so I just hope that if iPhone 2 doesn't have it that a 3rd party app will come along with it and the SDK soon :) Then I FINALLY get my iPhone :) AMEN!
 
I agree, SMS is always going to be a lot more popular because MMS only has very limited uses. But, here in the UK at least, we do use MMS quite a lot. Receiving MMS isn't really a problem - visiting a website isn't a massive hardship. But, from the other way round, it's impossible to SEND an MMS message from the iPhone to another device. That means that for the many contacts I have who don't have email on their mobiles (most, except the techy ones, or work ones), I've no option of sending them any sort of picture. For me personally, it's not a problem, but I can see why it is for some.

I agree with Apple's choice to push the industry in the right direction - as you say - but it could have been a slightly smoother ride :)

It is not IMPOSSIBLE to send MMS with the iPhone. You are simply wanting Apple to make it clear cut for you.

What is so hard about send an e-mail to someone or better yet, if you absolutely HAVE TO send an MMS to someone's mobile, send it to their mobile e-mail address. For example, if you send it to <phonenumber>@mms.att.net, it will go through to the recipient as an MMS message. And you can have them send an MMS to your e-mail. I've tested both and it works.
 
It is when you live in a state (USA) that only wants you to use handsfree/bluetooth.

And its so convenient besides. Walked by the T-Mobile store in Seattle today just to see if I was hallucinating but all but 4 of the 20 or so phones they had out had voice dialing. I mean its a standard cell phone feature!

And yes the difference between touching my BT earpiece and saying a name and having their number dialed IS much more convenient than having to take out a phone, direct my full attention to it, activate it, and then select a phone number by the easiest means available even if I'm not driving. And the AT&T voice dialing feature still requires you to do 2/3s of the phone monkeying around - I shouldn't have to touch the phone at all to make a call, haven't had to since last millenium.

As nerdarific as the iPhone is its hard to give up that level of convenience and functionality especially since making calls is what having a cell phone is for. Maps, stocks, and the weather are cute, but not at the expense of actual cell phone features.

But I live in hope that someday it will - until then I just will have to muddle through with a cheaper more phone featured model. :)
 
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