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Apple would love it if they tried that trick, then they would go from legal 3rd party alternatives to illegal police and border patrol seizable counterfeits.

YOU should think before posting.

Nothing like proving your previous post wrong all by yourself.

The reason Apple would never display a part/serial number (like your ridiculous suggestion) is because it provides the counterfeiters with a legitimate number they can clone.

Like I said, you really didn’t think things through in your original post.
 
Apple's goal is not to service your device at all. Apple and their authorised 3rd party repairers will flat refuse to fix your device out of warranty and recommend you buy a new one. That's why Apple quotes for repairs are always about the cost of a new device when only a new cable or chip is usually needed.

I recently had my MacBook Pro repaired one year outside of its warranty expiration. Apple paid for it. At a cost of £800. Ok, not an iDevice, but nevertheless...
 
Could you imagine the number of cars on the road that might pop up with the message, "Unable to verify this BMW has genuine BMW brake pads". That would make a lot of bottoms tight.

BMW does complain about non-standard parts. If all things, the headlight switch has the VIN encoded into it. If it is replaced there will be a dot on the dash display. They also require pairing a battery with the car using BMW only software on some models.
 
I recently had my MacBook Pro repaired one year outside of its warranty expiration. Apple paid for it. At a cost of £800. Ok, not an iDevice, but nevertheless...

Outside the manufacturer warranty (2 years) or EU warranty (6 years)? Part of one of Apple's many official replacement schemes forced on them by class action lawsuits?
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Nothing like proving your previous post wrong all by yourself.

The reason Apple would never display a part/serial number (like your ridiculous suggestion) is because it provides the counterfeiters with a legitimate number they can clone.

Like I said, you really didn’t think things through in your original post.

You don't think they would bother just looking up the parts number? Or reading an iFixit guide? Or buying a phone?

Parts numbers are not trade secrets. They're literally numbers that are stamped on parts.
 
Outside the manufacturer warranty (2 years) or EU warranty (6 years)? Part of one of Apple's many official replacement schemes forced on them by class action lawsuits?
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You don't think they would bother just looking up the parts number? Or reading an iFixit guide? Or buying a phone?

Parts numbers are not trade secrets. They're literally numbers that are stamped on parts.

Apparently you don't know the difference between part numbers and serial numbers, even though it's already been mentioned in this thread.

Apple uses serial numbers to verify parts.
 
Outside the manufacturer warranty (2 years) or EU warranty (6 years)? Part of one of Apple's many official replacement schemes forced on them by class action lawsuits?


It's a US machine bought in the US so not covered by EU warranty. Regardless, rather than refuse to repair it at all, they repaired it at their own cost. I'm just saying that the picture you paint isn't in keeping with my own experience of Apple's service.
 
There was a video where a genuine Apple battery from one working phone was placed into another phone, and the error came up. This indicates that the issue isn't even with detecting if the part is genuine but if repair shop posses the secret apple tools to re-code the parts on the phone as genuine. Logic would follow that such coding tool could also be used to validate bad parts as being valid (which was also tested and demonstrated).

I am all for quality repair. I have deal with crappy parts and would like to have a way of always getting good parts. But if I send in my device to Louis Rossmann, I don't think it needs to come back with an error message. I'd trust him with all my devices.

If its about calibration.... then provide a setting to allow calibration.

If its about color quality, provide a color calibration app using the camera.

If its about camera quality, again, why not provide a app/setting to validate quality.

There are plenty of compatible (aka IBM-compatible era) parts that work just fine. It should be at the consumers discretion to utilize that and without the phone displaying a bogus message.
 
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...There are plenty of compatible (aka IBM-compatible era) parts that work just fine. It should be at the consumers discretion to utilize that and without the phone displaying a bogus message.
You may be okay with it, but the person you sell the phone to may want to know about the parts replacement. Not everybody is above board.
 
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This irritates me. Apple needs to stop their BS, and let the consumers do whatever they want with the phones we OWN. They’re not verifying anything for our safety, just wanting to control the repair game as well.

that’s fine you can do what ever you’d like with your device. However, it’s an essential feature for the phone once it’s been passed on from one owner to a new owner.
As a Best Buy tech, I want to make sure my customers aren’t feeding me BS. Now I can just know.
 
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I don't see why people are complaining other than they just hate anything Apple does. It does absolutly nothing to stop 3rd party or even shoddy repairs. The phone will work as it did before. No restrictions on how it works or what you can do with it. The ONLY thing it does it a few notifications and it's listed in the settings that the phone had unauthorized repairs done. To the owner of the phone this does not effect him at all.

What this does is inform potential buyers that the phone they are looking at had an unauthorized repair. They can still choose to buy it if they wish but the seller can't say some BS like it's been in my mom's closet for the past two years and she never even used it.
 
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what happens when you're out of warranty. apple doesn't fix they only charge you 350usd for replacements
Go to a third party and take the chance? You know it'll have non genuine Apple components at that point and if you're trying to sell it be upfront and don't lie about it. Some people might not care but be honest.
 
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Curious if this would affect the trade-in value of a phone ...
I would say so. A bit like buying an original car or a panel swapped one. I would like to know if it was genuine.

Some of these 3rd party parts work 100% like the original but then you have others that lose some of the sensitivity of the touch screen. Also what if you had a battery change, then sold the phone and it caught on fire? Who would you blame, Apple or the Unauthorised Repairer?

They should do the same with chargers so we can stop all these Chinese knock offs killing phones or catching on fire.
 
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Go to a third party and take the chance? You know it'll have non genuine Apple components at that point and if you're trying to sell it be upfront and don't lie about it. Some people might not care but be honest.
Many of these parts r produced by the same factory back in China, even if swapped parts from none functioning iPhone to working iPhone that error will occur
 
Still defies all logic and rational thought that people who buy a multi-thousand dollar product would go cheap on repairing it or maintaining it!

In many cases, the consumer has no choice. If you break your phone and you’re in rural North Dakota (or any number of other places), there’s no viable official option, so you have to go to a sketchy third party store and hope for the best.
 
More predatory DRM for parts replacements. Is it like battery replacement from genuine iPhone donor phone that's still reported as non-genuine? Shady...
 
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Many of these parts r produced by the same factory back in China, even if swapped parts from none functioning iPhone to working iPhone that error will occur
Some may be produced in the same factory but they're not genuine Apple parts. It's like many generic products are produced in the same factories as brand name ones.

What error occurring are you talking about? There's no error. It's a notification and text in settings. Nothing the phone does is effected at all. It does not block any setting or anything at all.
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More predatory DRM for parts replacements. Is it like battery replacement from genuine iPhone donor phone that's still reported as non-genuine? Shady...
Because it can't verify the battery is genuine it lets the phone user know this. The only shady thing would be a repair shop or person selling a used iPhone lying about the condition of the phone.
 
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Fact is these 3rd party displays are the exact same as Apple’s, and even come off the same factory line. It’s just the fact the serial numbers haven’t been logged by Apple (ie. the Apple tax hasn’t been collected). Hence Apple being vindictive with these messages, etc.
 
Fact is these 3rd party displays are the exact same as Apple’s, and even come off the same factory line. It’s just the fact the serial numbers haven’t been logged by Apple (ie. the Apple tax hasn’t been collected). Hence Apple being vindictive with these messages, etc.
You confirmed this with your sources in Shenzhen? Those Apple Store employees that come across inferior displays must be imagining things LOL
 
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I don’t think this is a bad thing, what if you buy your phone from someone on eBay who says “never been damaged or repaired” you have no way of knowing if they are telling the truth. This helps keep sellers honest and buyers treated fairly. As long as it isn’t affecting being able to use the third party screen(or battery).
Exactamondo. This is very good.
 
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It makes me laugh that some folk are perfectly happy to have their expensive phone rebuilt with potentially dodgy parts of unknown origin, but a harmless message to that effect in the settings app is a breach of their human rights o_O
 
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Fact is these 3rd party displays are the exact same as Apple’s, and even come off the same factory line. It’s just the fact the serial numbers haven’t been logged by Apple (ie. the Apple tax hasn’t been collected). Hence Apple being vindictive with these messages, etc.

Having worked in mobile phone sales for years, I can tell you that many repair facilities use subpar parts and tell their customers that they’re ‘genuine Apple parts.’ Working for a company that is now an Apple Authorized Service Provider, I see firsthand what training people have to go through and how many extra steps are required to do things the ‘Apple’ way. Training goes over how to interact with Apple clients and what can and cannot be repaired and what must be replaced. Personally, I’d rather have a new phone or motherboard than a device someone has taken a soldering iron to, especially if it means I’d have less likelihood of failure. Today’s devices are created with much smaller solder points, etc.. and I’ve seen some pretty horrible hack jobs on much larger devices. For the extra few dollars, although it may seem stupid to some, I’m all for every screw and gasket being replaced as part of a screen or battery replacement. I know that the exact torque requirements are being met because every repair specifies a specific screwdriver with that exact torque setting, and when the screen is replaced, it’s being pressed with the exact amount of pressure across the entire device for a specified amount of time, and once that is completed, it’s run through diagnostic tools, which, yes, do reset whatever magic software wizardry Apple puts into their devices to verify repairs. But you know what? If something goes wrong, that same tool will give you an error and make you take it all apart and replace everything over again with new parts... so it’s not just resetting a counter with a 1 or a 0 to say ‘genuine Apple repair.’

That ‘Apple Tax’ you refer to.. it includes replacing every single part you remove if it can be worn in the process of removal or replacement. It includes gaskets, screws, individual training documents with images for each and every step, specific little tiny screwdrivers with specific little bits for just the right amount of torque required in every step, display presses, device sleds for each device to fit into that press, servers and computers to maintain all the updates and diagnostic tools at a local level, and a worldwide warranty that means it’s guaranteed to be done right, and if something goes wrong, you can get it repaired at any Apple Authorized Service Provider.

The Apple Tax doesn’t seem that much when the local cell phone repair shop in the mall and isn’t ‘certified’ only charges $10-20 less for a screen replacement with a screen that is visibly less clear, with imperfections, and funky coatings.. all glued in with some random stretchy black goop that is coming out of the seams and gives an error when you try to use TouchID, requiring you to go back and have them fix your phone again. *shrug*
 
IMHO - the part used is irrelevant.
What matters is that the part replacement is registered with Apple and thus entered as a valid component serial number for the phone to track.
Even if one uses a genuine Apple part and does not "complete" the job by "testing" - it will show up as a non-genuine part service incident - Apple verifying the part taken out is not there and expected to be returned to Apple so that it cannot be refurbished and, the part that is there is the part with the serial number sent/ordered for this particular device.
The access to this system for updating the information is granted only the certified authorized service providers in good standing only. ( unless there is some access glitch ;)
This has been a long time evolving work procedure for a couple of years already - nothing new.

The new thing as I read is that the device will snitch on you and report to Apple by itself if you change or replace anything.
for example - " the home enthusiast" changes the battery to "genuine" replacement whilst saving the original battery. After a time she/he places back the original one and brings the device to Apple/AASP ( -- some recall program or whatever ;) - at this point, Apple knows that despite this battery is genuine and is the one that came with the device - it is not good.
Only time and public response as in the acceptance of such practice by general public will show if this may be grounds for refusing acceptance for the hypothetical recall or even warranty.

I do think that the "industry" ( samsung and whatnot) will follow this in spades and we will see this widespread within a few years.
 
What error occurring are you talking about? There's no error. It's a notification and text in settings. Nothing the phone does is effected at all. It does not block any setting or anything at all.
well ... display truetone functionality would be one such.
... battery health "status" - another one ...
All remedied with a simple procedure even on most cheap knock-offs.

The bothersome is that we do not know or have heard a lot about other functions to be disabled suddenly and unexpectedly yet.
 
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