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At some point, your phone flat-out stops being good enough. Someone who’s on a 6S or 7 will probably not have great battery life at this point. They can replace it, but it’s starting to become a band-aid.
Because it doesn’t feel fancy and new enough anymore?
 
But they don’t have to upgrade to the latest. They might choose to upgrade to an 8 because of size.

Sure.

The point is that relatively few people buy a new iPhone every single year. There's just no need. Conversely, there is no need for Apple for every single release to be a blockbuster.
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Because it doesn’t feel fancy and new enough anymore?

No, for a variety of reasons, such as apps becoming more demanding.

(And eventually, because the newest iOS won't even run on your phone any more. For the 6S, that's probably happening either next year or the year after.)
 
I have absolutely loved my iPhone X over the last two years, but about a month ago, FaceID decided to stop working someday. I took it to the Apple store and they said either buy a replacement for $500 or.... wait until the new phone. So here I am waiting.

Some form of back Touch ID would be great - I saw that feature on an Android phone and it is fantastic.

But if the new iPhone doesn't use a USB-C port, I think I may cry. Everything else I own is USB-C now, and if Apple ironically stays behind the curve it set long ago, I don't think I will have much more respect for the company.
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I have absolutely loved my iPhone X over the last two years, but about a month ago, FaceID decided to stop working someday. I took it to the Apple store and they said either buy a replacement for $500 or.... wait until the new phone. So here I am waiting.

Some form of back Touch ID would be great - I saw that feature on an Android phone and it is fantastic.

But if the new iPhone doesn't use a USB-C port, I think I may cry. Everything else I own is USB-C now, and if Apple ironically stays behind the curve it set long ago, I don't think I will have much more respect for the company.
[doublepost=1567343648][/doublepost]USB-C OR BUST!!!
I somehow think USB-C is a pipe dream for this year. But it sounds like the phone is going to be a good upgrade from the X.
 
I somehow think USB-C is a pipe dream for this year. But it sounds like the phone is going to be a good upgrade from the X.
Yup, I sadly think you're right... all of the rumors are suggesting Apple will wait until next year for USB-C. I think this is a huge bummer because ALL of my other devices are USB-C, including my MBP and iPad Pro, yet here we are with an old connector that literally only exists for iPhones and older iPads at this point. I don't have much of a choice to upgrade because FaceID decided to stop working on me. I guess Apple hit the kill switch as they do every two years to force me to upgrade!

Looking forward to the new iPhone but somehow I doubt it will be showing anything new other than some boosts in performance specs. Yawn.... but I don't mind too much, I actually love my iPhone X. The only features I would ever want new would be some form of reintroduction of TouchID (like I mentioned, on the back side of the phone like the Pixel does), and USB-C so I can finally ditch all of my Lightning connectors.

It's so ironic that Apple used to be pushing the edge of technology and acceptance ("courage!" to drop aux ports... yet they lack the COURAGE to go to USB-C...that everyone else has already gone to). Now they are usually trailing the Android phones. But what can I say, I do love my iPhone most of the time!
 
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I can see it now at the keynote...”and if you use your Apple Card you will get a special savings on your pre order”

There must be something up their sleeve otherwise this will be a very boring keynote, the phones are exactly the same except the camera.
 
iPhone 11 Lineup Tipped to Have Familiar Rollout: September 13 Pre-Orders, September 20 Launch, Same iPhone

The other line up will be all the lemmings waiting to dive in on the first wave, ole twisty face will be smiling all the way to the bank (probably)
 
At some point, your phone flat-out stops being good enough. Someone who’s on a 6S or 7 will probably not have great battery life at this point. They can replace it, but it’s starting to become a band-aid. And the more iPhone revisions they skip, the more compelling an upgrade it is.
True to an extent but you forget that things changed in 2018 for the usual upgrade cycle for a lot of users.

There was Apple’s battery replacement program for US$29, or CAD$39 here in Canada. Thus, my 7 Plus’ battery is only 8 months old, and my battery life is OK. Performance is also fine since it has 3 GB RAM and Apple A10, which still has quite reasonable multi-core performance. In Geekbench 4, the A10 scores over 6000, and that’s actually faster than a 2016 Core m3 MacBook.

So, I’m still fine with this 3 GB 7 Plus until 2020 when the iPhone gets 5G. Things are not quite as nice for the 2 GB iPhones (SE, 6S, 6S Plus, and 7), but performance on those is still adequate for a lot of people, even on iOS 13, and a lot of those phones got new batteries last year too.
 
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until 2020 when the iPhone gets 5G.

I think 5G will be a lot like 3G/UMTS in that it will take many years to find a killer app. And if that killer app is found, it may not be on phones at all. Maybe cars, or AR glasses, or whichever.

4G is already plenty high-bandwidth and low-latency. I just never really think “I wish my cellular connection were faster”.
 
So, I’m still fine with this 3 GB 7 Plus until 2020 when the iPhone gets 5G. Things are not quite as nice for the 2 GB iPhones (SE, 6S, 6S Plus, and 7), but performance on those is still adequate for a lot of people, even on iOS 13, and a lot of those phones got new batteries last year too.
Given how much new iPhones cost, I find it strange that apparently replacing the battery is considered something only worth it when it is less than $30. Your post sounded a bit like those 6s and 7 users had their chance to replace the battery last year (and many took it) but this year it has become prohibitively expensive again.
 
I have absolutely loved my iPhone X over the last two years, but about a month ago, FaceID decided to stop working someday. I took it to the Apple store and they said either buy a replacement for $500 or.... wait until the new phone. So here I am waiting.

Some form of back Touch ID would be great - I saw that feature on an Android phone and it is fantastic.

But if the new iPhone doesn't use a USB-C port, I think I may cry. Everything else I own is USB-C now, and if Apple ironically stays behind the curve it set long ago, I don't think I will have much more respect for the company.
[doublepost=1567343648][/doublepost]USB-C OR BUST!!!

“I saw that feature and it is fantastic.’

You obviously didn’t actually USE it. Read the reviews. Horrible.
 
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Given how much new iPhones cost, I find it strange that apparently replacing the battery is considered something only worth it when it is less than $30. Your post sounded a bit like those 6s and 7 users had their chance to replace the battery last year (and many took it) but this year it has become prohibitively expensive again.
While it’s not prohibitively expensive to replace an out-of-warranty battery, it still costs about twice as much without that battery program. After 2 years the battery usually isn’t in bad shape, but it’s not in ideal shape. However, the battery program made it a no brainer to get a new battery even with an OK battery, with “OK” meaning say 85% capacity. At twice the price it’s no longer a no-brainer.
 
Yup, I sadly think you're right... all of the rumors are suggesting Apple will wait until next year for USB-C. I think this is a huge bummer because ALL of my other devices are USB-C, including my MBP and iPad Pro, yet here we are with an old connector that literally only exists for iPhones and older iPads at this point. I don't have much of a choice to upgrade because FaceID decided to stop working on me. I guess Apple hit the kill switch as they do every two years to force me to upgrade!

Looking forward to the new iPhone but somehow I doubt it will be showing anything new other than some boosts in performance specs. Yawn.... but I don't mind too much, I actually love my iPhone X. The only features I would ever want new would be some form of reintroduction of TouchID (like I mentioned, on the back side of the phone like the Pixel does), and USB-C so I can finally ditch all of my Lightning connectors.

It's so ironic that Apple used to be pushing the edge of technology and acceptance ("courage!" to drop aux ports... yet they lack the COURAGE to go to USB-C...that everyone else has already gone to). Now they are usually trailing the Android phones. But what can I say, I do love my iPhone most of the time!
That sounds awfully expensive to buy a brand new phone just because Facebook id stopped working? Why don’t you just use Touch ID instead?
 
I have absolutely loved my iPhone X over the last two years, but about a month ago, FaceID decided to stop working someday. I took it to the Apple store and they said either buy a replacement for $500 or.... wait until the new phone. So here I am waiting.

Some form of back Touch ID would be great - I saw that feature on an Android phone and it is fantastic.

But if the new iPhone doesn't use a USB-C port, I think I may cry. Everything else I own is USB-C now, and if Apple ironically stays behind the curve it set long ago, I don't think I will have much more respect for the company.
[doublepost=1567343648][/doublepost]USB-C OR BUST!!!
Have you tried resetting FaceID and rescanning?
 
True to an extent but you forget that things changed in 2018 for the usual upgrade cycle for a lot of users.

There was Apple’s battery replacement program for US$29, or CAD$39 here in Canada. Thus, my 7 Plus’ battery is only 8 months old, and my battery life is OK. Performance is also fine since it has 3 GB RAM and Apple A10, which still has quite reasonable multi-core performance. In Geekbench 4, the A10 scores over 6000, and that’s actually faster than a 2016 Core m3 MacBook.

So, I’m still fine with this 3 GB 7 Plus until 2020 when the iPhone gets 5G. Things are not quite as nice for the 2 GB iPhones (SE, 6S, 6S Plus, and 7), but performance on those is still adequate for a lot of people, even on iOS 13, and a lot of those phones got new batteries last year too.

8 also has only 2 GB.
 
While it’s not prohibitively expensive to replace an out-of-warranty battery, it still costs about twice as much without that battery program. After 2 years the battery usually isn’t in bad shape, but it’s not in ideal shape. However, the battery program made it a no brainer to get a new battery even with an OK battery, with “OK” meaning say 85% capacity. At twice the price it’s no longer a no-brainer.
We buy $1000 phones but shelling out $60 to prolong the life of an iPhone by maybe two years is not a no-brainier?
 
I think almost every single year the release date has been the same weekend as the Singapore Formula 1 race and this year that's the weekend of 20th September so .. I'm pretty sure the cycle will continue.
Don't know what to do this year, my launch-day X is still great and I have no real need to upgrade. However having moved from 1 year updates to 2 and now to 3 years my wife's phone is now old enough it won't get iOS 13. I suspect she won't even care and we did get the battery replaced when Apple did the replacement program so we'll probably sit it out another year. As long as WhatsApp works and she can read mail and log in to her bank account, that pretty much covers 98% of usage so iOS 13 .. not really necessary.
 
8 also has only 2 GB.
Correct. Forgot to mention that one.

We buy $1000 phones but shelling out $60 to prolong the life of an iPhone by maybe two years is not a no-brainier?
A lot of these phones are provided on monthly plans, often long after they are released.

Also, i buy my phones outright but if I was at 85% battery capacity and planned on upgrading in a year, I wouldn’t pay US$65 for a new battery either.
 
If the ‘triple lens camera’ proves worthy, I may consider upgrading.
2GB RAM of additional RAM should be also noticeable when you switch between multiple tabs. However these circle lens bumps on bumpy rectangle area look terrible so I hope that lens will be flat.
 
I think 5G will be a lot like 3G/UMTS in that it will take many years to find a killer app. And if that killer app is found, it may not be on phones at all. Maybe cars, or AR glasses, or whichever.

4G is already plenty high-bandwidth and low-latency. I just never really think “I wish my cellular connection were faster”.

You're right, 4G is more than enough for nearly all the things we're currently doing with our phones and maybe even on a personal hotspot. That said, if you live in a dense area you will absolutely benefit from 5G. 5G isn't necessarily about higher speeds but accommodation for thousands of devices. In an absolutely perfect 5G context, you would be able to go to a stadium and not lose your internet connection because 50.000 people are connecting along with you.
 
You're right, 4G is more than enough for nearly all the things we're currently doing with our phones and maybe even on a personal hotspot. That said, if you live in a dense area you will absolutely benefit from 5G. 5G isn't necessarily about higher speeds but accommodation for thousands of devices. In an absolutely perfect 5G context, you would be able to go to a stadium and not lose your internet connection because 50.000 people are connecting along with you.

Fair enough, though I imagine it'll be several years until that scenario actually works well in practice.

What might happen in early years, of course, is lower congestion in general as most people are on 4G instead.
 
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